Does anyone know more about the Russians hacking the DNC?

[Ned_Devine]

I saw this post on my home page and I was hoping to get some input from people here.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/06/15/what-russias-dnc-hack-tells-us-about-hillary-clintons-private-email-server/#6efd1e2f3b2a

[emulatorloo]

1. I want to know if Russian intelligence is feeding this info to Trump

Given Trump's many complimentary statements about Putin, I hope some intrepid reporters do some serious investigation. Would make Watergate look like a parking infraction in comparison.

[MFM008]

3. Yes they seem anxious

To help him out IF true.
Russia still lies.

[elljay]

4. While this is a possibility

I wouldn't assume that Putin likes Trump as much as Trump likes Putin. Putin will be able to play Trump more easily that Clinton, which may be his motivation. However, Trump is a loose cannon and Hillary will be predictable, and Putin may prefer certainty. Plus, who would trust Trump to keep his mouth shut about this info? My instinct is that Russia just wants a heads-up so they can be ready, not that Trump has a deal with them.

[emulatorloo]

5. I guess I am suspicious because they stole opposition research. Why not use google for a heads-up?

Does stealing DNC Opposition research really give them a heads up so they can be ready for a Trump presidency?

IMHO a Google search would give them plenty of info.

Sorry I am in CT mode today, which is rare for me.

Other possibility I guess is that they stole oppo research to 'blackmail' Trump should he win. But that really doesn't make any sense to me.

All I can say for certain is something is off here.

[elljay]

6. Who can say for sure?

Trump certainly already knows where his bodies are buried, to speak (hopefully) metaphorically. I don't think Putin would like the blowback if Trump got angry at some of the info and said something publicly. Now, stealing intel on Hillary and giving it to Trump would help Trump more. I don't see Putin doing something that gives him no strategic advantage

[emulatorloo]

8. Agreed. Maybe a young Woodward/Bernstein type pair of investigative reporters could do some digging.

[elljay]

10. It would be great

if two young reporters from the "phony and dishonest" Washington Post followed in their footsteps!

[eastwestdem]

11. Wouldn't doubt it. nt

[BobbyDrake]

2. Karl didn't include it in today's talking points? He's getting sloppy. nt

[notadmblnd]

7. Media appaears to be down playing the intrusions and limiting it to only accessing Trump info

But you can bet your butt they were all up in the DNC servers and have copies of e-mails between the Clinton campaign and DSW and if there is anything they can use at a later date to blackmail Clinton, you can be sure they will.

[pdsimdars]

17. Like 2.0 said, you think he was on there for about a year and all he took were 2 files?

He gave it all to Wikileaks and Assange says he will publish enough on Monday that should be enough for a Hillary indictment.

[That Guy 888]

9. I wonder if they hacked or just bought opposition research from the RNC on Clinton?

They might be just looking for dirt and political info on all possible US Presidents.

Or...

Maybe they have their hacks in place in enough electronic voting systems to ensure a drumpf victory


Seriously, it wouldn't surprise me if the rnc was hacked as well, but they've either not discovered it, or don't want to admit it.

[pdsimdars]

16. deflecting much? Now you want to discuss the RNC? Can't keep to one topic?

[Chezboo]

12. This was posted earlier

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512189813

There's a lot of personal stuff on there - donors list, commitment lists, personal info. And it's just the beginning. Looks to be via Guccifer, who has now pleaded guilty on 2 counts from not guilty on 9, and a sentence from about 114 years to about 7. Included in the bargaining was his agreement to testify in future cases.

[emulatorloo]

13. This hacker's handle is Guccifer2. (Not via Guciffer but a dif hacker called Guciffer2)

[elljay]

14. I've now skimmed the doc

that was posted on The Smoking Gun and alleged to be the intel stolen from the DNC. All it appears to be is a paper written by research interns that compiles the various actions/statements/conduct of Trump over the years. Nothing we don't already know - no smoking guns. I don't see anything of value - no secrets, no strategy that wasn't already obvious, just further confirmation that the man is a monumental ass.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/dnc-hacker-leaks-trump-oppo-report-647293

[notadmblnd]

18. So you didn't look at the excel spread sheets with donor lists?

Just the Trump document.

[elljay]

19. You mean the DNC donors?

I was focused on Trump-specific material because there has been a lot of speculation about whether this was orchestrated by Russia to benefit Trump. I'm sure there is all kinds of stuff on the DNC server, but the amount that wealthy Dems donate, though perhaps not something they wanted publicized, is not gonna make a difference in the general.

[pdsimdars]

15. We are not allowed to post about that. I have seen a number of posts put up and then

hidden by the censorship jury. They don't want that information posted here.
Let's see what happens on Monday when Assange says he will post Hillary emails that should have enough information for an indictment.
If that happens, then maybe they'll finally have to acknowledge it. Otherwise, don't ask, don't tell or they'll hide it.

[SidDithers]

20. Sure you are...nt

Sid