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Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:44 AM

 

Poll: Clinton leads Trump by 11 points in White House race

Thomson Reuters
CHRIS KAHN
Jun 11th 2016 6:10AM

June 10 (Reuters) - Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by 11 points in the U.S. presidential race, showing little change after she became the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee this week, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday.

Clinton this week defeated party rival Bernie Sanders, 74, in four of six nominating contests, most notably California and New Jersey, and won the endorsements of President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and other party leaders.

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/11/poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-11-points-in-white-house-race/21393418/

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Reply Poll: Clinton leads Trump by 11 points in White House race (Original post)
workinclasszero Jun 2016 OP
NurseJackie Jun 2016 #1
randome Jun 2016 #3
riversedge Jun 2016 #2
MoonRiver Jun 2016 #4
Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #5
beachbum bob Jun 2016 #7
beachbum bob Jun 2016 #6
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #10
beachbum bob Jun 2016 #11
Lord Magus Jun 2016 #18
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #19
okasha Jun 2016 #20
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #21
okasha Jun 2016 #22
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #25
okasha Jun 2016 #28
LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #8
stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #9
woolldog Jun 2016 #12
Stallion Jun 2016 #13
woolldog Jun 2016 #24
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #29
CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #14
davidn3600 Jun 2016 #15
workinclasszero Jun 2016 #16
davidn3600 Jun 2016 #17
Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #23
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #26
davidn3600 Jun 2016 #30
Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #32
lunamagica Jun 2016 #27
oasis Jun 2016 #31

Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:45 AM

1. It's only going to get better ... wait until they REALLY get started on him!

Go, Hillary! We love you!


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:52 AM

3. I think we'll see "double tens" by GE time.

 

And I try to avoid optimism.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:49 AM

2. Congrats to Hillary and her Team.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:53 AM

4. K&R!!

THIS is what we're talking about!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:55 AM

5. Sanders' superior electability argument...up in smoke.

 

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Response to Surya Gayatri (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:03 AM

7. never a serious argument as we all see now

 

and its been put to rest

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:03 AM

6. what red states can we turn blue and why the democratic party has to invest in them, big time

 

texas
georgia
south carolina
kansas


for starters.......

time to take the battle to the conservatives in their venues

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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:05 AM

10. Texas is unlikely, even if the VP is Castro.

Romney won Texas by nearly 16% in 2012 - 4.5m votes to 3.3m - and while it's moving slowly, but noticeably left, there aren't many signs that it'll move enough by November, even with Trump on the other side. There's a pretty sizeable GOP base entrenched here in rural areas and suburbia.

A presidential year or two down the road, and it'll look more winnable.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:20 AM

11. no national democratic monies was spent in texas

 

its different this go round


conservatives are stuck with trump

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:09 PM

18. The problem in Texas is Latino turnout is much worse there than in other states.

If Latinos voted in Texas at the same rate they do in California, it would become a competitive state.

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Response to Lord Magus (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:16 PM

19. Agreed. GOTV efforts in Texas need some serious improvements.

Gerrymandering made local, state, and House races so unbalanced that the party just doesn't put a lot of effort into them anymore. Unfortunately, that bleeds over into the other national races and they don't get the attention they should receive, either.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:26 PM

20. I think the urbsn centers

plus South Texas can carry the state for us, especially with a Hispanic VP. Trump is his own worst enemy here. One little shop I know sells Trump piņatas as fast as they can haul them in from Mexico.

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Response to okasha (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:32 PM

21. We already have the urban centers and the Valley. Romney still won the state by 16%

Obama won the major cities and most of the Valley in 2012. Romney still beat him by 1.2m votes.

Like anything in politics, it's going to be evolutionary. I could certainly be wrong, but I don't see that significant a swing in Texas in 2016, even with Trump as the candidate. There's a large base of GOP voters entrenched here, and they'll vote for pretty much anything with an R on it.

The tide is turning, I just don't think it's turning quickly enough for a win in November here.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #21)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:40 PM

22. I think there's going to be a consideable crossover vote.

I'm hearing a lot of support from conservative women for Hillary. A few months ago it was murmurs. It's showing up on Facebook pages now.

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Response to okasha (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:51 PM

25. Well, when Susan Collins publicly says that she may very well support Clinton over Trump...

and it's only June, Trump has serious problems from a national perspective.

Texas politics is incredibly diverse, much more so than a lot of people realize. It won't surprise me at all if Hillary gets a lot of crossover support here, because there are a lot of pretty moderate Republicans in Texas, but I'm not sure it's enough to overcome the GOP base. Gerrymandering has so screwed up the political environment that TX Dems just don't put a lot of effort into GOTV. That will need to change (and we're working on it, especially with Latino voters) before a lot of the obstacles here can be overcome.

Like I said, I think it's going to happen, I'm just not sure it's going to happen in time for November. It's certainly worth the effort, because if not 2016, then 2018, 2020, etc.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:02 PM

28. You know it's bad when both Laura and Barbara Busb

are saying they don't see how any woman could vote for Trump.

Yes, we do need major GOTV efforts, and Hillary needs to do some significant in -person campaigning here.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:06 AM

8. A bit too early, seeing as it's June....

But we have to have something to talk about right?

Seriously tough, it was a good week this past week for our presumptive nominee I must say--poll or no poll.


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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:14 AM

9. K&R!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 10:36 AM

12. Reuters Ipsos - an Internet poll

 



Please post reputable pollsters only.

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Response to woolldog (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:52 AM

13. Ipsos Gets an A- From 538,com

nm

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Response to Stallion (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:51 PM

24. Interesting....

 

isn't it an Internet poll though ? I'm skeptical of those

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Response to woolldog (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:05 PM

29. Online polls come in a few varieties. Self-selected ones are worthless; this one is more scientific.

If the polling organization is the one selecting the voters and they're accounting for demographics, party identification, etc., it's obviously a lot more reliable than non-scientific, spammed-by-the-masses polls online.

It looks like Reuters adjusts for demographics, etc., and the poll has a 3.2% MOE, which would be inline with a lot of other polls.

http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/TM651Y15_13/

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:53 AM

14. But I've heard there's no way Hillary can beat Trump?

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:54 AM

15. Jesus.....nearly 20% say they support neither candidate

 

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:55 AM

16. They will come around after Trump spews more racist hate 24/7

 

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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:59 AM

17. He's been spewing that for the past year!

 

Anyone who is sensitive to Trump's hate rhetoric has already backed Clinton.

The 20% are likely voters who now have nowhere to go. Hillary is a centrist Democrat. Trump is a far-right conservative. If you don't fit in either realm, you have no candidate.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #17)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:43 PM

23. Most people still aren't paying attention

A whole lot don't even register it until post-convention/September time period.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:52 PM

26. Agreed. Many don't even decide until the last week or last few days.

Once the conventions roll around, most of that 20% will go one way or the other.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:10 PM

30. You are forgetting that both these candidates are unpopular

 

They are the most disliked nominees in the history of polling.

You are acting as if Hillary is far more likable than Trump. The polling for a very long time shows that's not really the case. Both these two have high negatives.

Will people go one way or the other? Possibly. But don't mistake that for popularity. Many, many people out there will be holding their nose when they vote this November. Whoever wins will enter office pretty unpopular.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:51 PM

32. I'm forgetting nothing

But thanks for assuming that I am. You're basically way off on a whole other tangent than what I was talking about, which basically looks like a cut and paste response.

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 01:57 PM

27. K&R. Go Hillary!

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Response to workinclasszero (Original post)

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 02:24 PM

31. K and R

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