Is this the first time in history where both presumptive nominees had 57% unfavorable ratings?

[floriduck]

[Scootaloo]

1. In history? probably not. In the modern era (1930's onward)? Sounds like it.

[rock]

2. I believe it is

the first time in history where one presumptive nominees was a misogynist and the other was a misogynee thus accounting for both having such hate ratings.

[LexVegas]

3. Bingo. nt

[Kentonio]

4. You realize that a majority of Americans are women not men right?

[rock]

6. And you think

Women can't be misogynists?

[Kentonio]

7. Ah so its all those pesky women who just can't handle the idea of a woman being President!

Nope sorry, still sounds silly.

[rock]

9. While you just sound naive

[Kentonio]

10. What sounds genuinely naive is your apparent belief that only gender could be the cause

Obviously millions of people couldn't have a problem with her dishonesty, center right politics or disdain for the young and poor, no it must be because she's a woman..

[rock]

11. Not only, prominent

Sounds awful much like a RW argument to me.

[Kentonio]

13. Funny, you're speaking like exactly the kind of caricature of a liberal that the RW use against us.

[rock]

14. How so?

[Kentonio]

15. Part of their deeply unpleasant attack on women is to try and diminish the importance of sexism.

They often do it by trying to claim that liberals cry sexism over almost anything, and therefore try and cover up their frequently sexist attacks by making out that its just more liberal whining.

Don't misunderstand me please, Hillary Clinton has been the target of some truly vile sexist attacks over the years, including some in this primary by people who should know a lot better. To try and say though that sexism is the only reason anyone has for criticizing her is seriously counterproductive and undermines the defence of genuinely sexist acts and speech. Hillary is not a perfect person (like every other politician) and over her long time in the public eye she has said and done many things that could make a person dislike her or not want to vote for her. It's not inherently sexist to feel that way simply because she's a woman, it would be more sexist to not hold her to the same level of scrutiny and accountability.

[Nye Bevan]

5. Hello? McKinley versus Bryan in 1896?

How quickly we forget!

[NurseJackie]

8. Oh, you! :-)

Ya big nut!

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. It says something about modern politics and how small the respective tents are.

That and the power of entertainment media.