2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNot a good look for Sanders
Chloe Angyal @ChloeAngyalNot a good look.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bernie-sanders-california-stronger-candidate-trump?utm_content=bufferd7390&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Yamiche Alcindor ?@Yamiche 32m32 minutes ago
Some women think @BernieSanders will be standing in way of history tmrw if HRC wins & he doesn't concede. He got testy when I asked; Oh well
Amy Chozick ?@amychozick 7m7 minutes ago
Hillary Clinton was often accused of blocking 1st black candidate to make history in final days of 08, along the lines of @Yamiche q to Bernie today
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,644 posts)it appears to me people are trying to kill Senator Sanders using the death by a thousand cuts method..
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thucythucy
(8,174 posts)"I understand how important, how historic it would be to have our first woman president after more than two hundred unbroken years of male presidents, especially when so many other countries have already taken that step and are thus ahead of us in this regard. And personally, I do feel it awkward to be in the position of the white man who follows a black man in the White House by denying that opportunity to the first woman to come anywhere near achieving that goal. But I believe I am the better candidate, both in terms of my positions and my past, and also in terms of beating a flat out racist and misogynist like Donald Trump and keeping him out of the White House. So, in this instance, I have to say that despite whatever personal discomfort I might feel, I do still believe I am the best candidate for our party to put forward."
If I can rap that out off the top of my head, surely Bernie could do at least as well.
Response to thucythucy (Reply #3)
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thucythucy
(8,174 posts)Because a major part of her support comes from women and people of color, the two most important parts of the Democratic coalition.
Because it would be the politically smart thing to do, and issues don't count for shit if you can't get elected to try to implement your policies.
I voted for Bernie in my primary, excusing how tone deaf he was by saying his experience in Vermont hadn't prepared him for work with a diverse coalition, but that he would learn.
I'm really wondering now if he CAN learn. If he CAN empathize with the hundreds of thousands of people, again, particularly women and people of color, who supported Clinton and are pissed to see their candidate dissed so often.
I'm really beginning to wonder if I was wrong all along. Maybe Bernie just isn't suited to be president. If he can't be bothered to reach out to the people in his own party, people who have a long history of being disenfranchised and thus are particularly sensitive to having their votes ignored, maybe he isn't the person I thought he was.
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thucythucy
(8,174 posts)and people of color who voted for Clinton (who, BTW, has a couple million more votes than Sanders, though California may change that) is to say their votes don't count, their aspirations are petty, that their decision to support Clinton is deluded, and that white male progressives always know what's best for everyone else.
Bernie could have knocked that soft ball question out of the park, instead he got "irritated" and "testy." That was a major opportunity he missed, more's the shame, and like I said, much as I like the man it makes me wonder if he's really up for a general election.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)thucythucy
(8,174 posts)See my post #3.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,360 posts)She'll be on Maddow tonight too!