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(86,063 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:26 AM Jun 2016

The PRESS responds to Hillary's EPIC speech today

Robert Sandy ?@frodofied 51m51 minutes ago
The PRESS responds to Hillary's EPIC speech today, and it is awesome. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/6/2

from Daily Kos:

___ The press and blogosphere reacted to the speech, and it has been awesome to behold...

Hillary’s speech today has resonated strongly across the press and media landscape, and it is almost exclusively positive. This seems like a watershed speech, a moment in time when the General Election truly started, and it starts off fittingly with a righteous take down of Donald Trump.


DailyKos: Hillary Clinton guts Donald Trump, cuts remains into cubes, tosses what's left in trash

[link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-donald-trump_us_57508150e4b0eb20fa0d31f9|
Huffington Post]: Hillary Clinton Eviscerates Donald Trump In Her Best Speech Yet

TIME: Hillary Clinton Tears Into Donald Trump on Foreign Policy, Temperament

Washington Post: Hillary Clinton just proved she is very good at taunting Donald Trump

CNN: Hillary Clinton's evisceration of Donald Trump

New York Magazine: Hillary Clinton Argues That Giving Nuclear Codes to Ill-tempered Ignoramus Would Be Mistake

Rolling Stone: 10 Times Clinton Roasted Trump in Her Latest Speech

Cosmopolitan: The 13 Best Lines From Hillary Clinton's Blistering Speech About Donald Trump

Vox: Hillary Clinton rolled out the anti-Trump argument that could deliver a landslide​

PoliticusUSA: Hillary Clinton Just Turned Trump Into A National Joke In Epic Foreign Policy Smackdown

Slate: Clinton Bluntly Mocks Trump’s Foreign Policy Ideas Simply by Restating Them

Vox: Hillary Clinton just made her best case against Donald Trump

Slate: Hillary Clinton Just Kicked Trump in the Shins

Politico: Hillary goes nuclear on Trump

Business Insider: Hillary Clinton just delivered one of her strongest arguments yet against Donald Trump

New York Daily News: Hillary Clinton beats Donald Trump to a deserved pulp: She exposes him as a dangerous and unstable would-be commander in chief

The New Republic: Donald Trump has never looked weaker

The Daily Banter: Hillary Revealed Her Plan of Attack Against Trump, and It's Kinda Perfect

Reuters: Clinton casts Trump as dangerous clown in caustic speech on foreign policy
[link:http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/clinton-roasts-donald-trump-biggest-zingers|
MSNBC]: Clinton Roasts Trump in Foreign Policy Speech: The 13 Biggest Zingers

The Stranger.com: Let's Watch Hillary Clinton's Speech On National Security, AKA Her Speech Ripping Donald Trump Several Dozen New A**holes

The New Civil Rights Movement.com: Hillary Clinton Destroyed Donald Trump in Her Speech Today – Here Are a Few of Her Best Clips


Simon Rosenberg ?@SimonWDC 7h7 hours ago
My take: "it was arguably Clinton’s most compelling public moment of the entire campaign so far" http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/did-clinton-just-finally-figure-out-how-hit-trump
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The PRESS responds to Hillary's EPIC speech today (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2016 OP
OMG those are AWEsome! I am going to kick these all morning! LOL. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #1
guess which TWO MEN gave it a bad review lol nt msongs Jun 2016 #2
Does that include the dudebros at The Intercept? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #6
Glenn Greenwald has just about a zero audience these days. MineralMan Jun 2016 #36
Interesting. Seems that the only people who didn't like the speech are Bernie and Trump supporters. LonePirate Jun 2016 #3
Lots of Bernie supporters did like it. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #7
Bernie liked how she confronted Trump. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #10
SOME Bernie supporters didn't like it. auntpurl Jun 2016 #13
WOW!!! NanceGreggs Jun 2016 #4
K&R. Go Hillary! lunamagica Jun 2016 #5
K&R! Epic is right! R B Garr Jun 2016 #8
Great Job bigtree!! Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #9
LOLZ. I love how so many envisaged it as evisceration, rending, tearing, bloodshed.... Hekate Jun 2016 #11
That's one of the many things wrong with the world Jack Bone Jun 2016 #12
It Was A Royal Don The Con Ass Kicking Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #14
I'll give you that...but it wasn't a foreign policy speech. Jack Bone Jun 2016 #17
She can't win with her critics. auntpurl Jun 2016 #20
Whatever you want to call it. it did the job on Trump. brush Jun 2016 #30
I haven't seen anyone except Trump who didn't think it was a powerful speech. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #15
Well, and Bernie. auntpurl Jun 2016 #19
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #16
Oh, it was epic, alright. n/t Aerows Jun 2016 #18
kick! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #21
My personal favorite Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #22
a PERSON responds to HRC's speech HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #23
Does her speech make you more or less likely to vote for Donald Trump? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #26
...corrected... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #28
Are you a single issue voter? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #29
...not a single issue... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #32
Opposing fascism this general election is the only issue DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #34
...incorrerct... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #37
Our focus is on stopping fascism. Why are you distracting us? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #38
because principles matter HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #39
Every minute I spend arguing with you is one less minute I have to fight fascism. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #40
...wow... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #41
Am I dismissed so I can continue my fight against fascism? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #42
We've had uninterrupted Creeping Fascism since around 1980 Armstead Jun 2016 #44
And on DU: "This is a HORRIBLE speech from our 'presumptive' nominee". Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #24
It was a well-delivered but mediocre business-as-usual nothingburger Armstead Jun 2016 #45
kick bigtree Jun 2016 #25
Great post bigtree. Yes it was an awesome speech Hokie Jun 2016 #27
She slayed. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #31
She hit the right notes..tone..it was awesome Peacetrain Jun 2016 #33
Yup. And the major network national news programs MineralMan Jun 2016 #35
What all those publications said, and more!! MoonRiver Jun 2016 #43
Better delivered than usual -- But just her usual platitudes Armstead Jun 2016 #46
except for the part where she gave Trump a beat down, which was the whole point nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #48
She did it well...But I like Bernie's "pathological liar" line about him better Armstead Jun 2016 #49
another kick for the AWESOME! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #47
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. Does that include the dudebros at The Intercept?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:36 AM
Jun 2016

GG was quite upset Hillary was being so mean to Don the Con.

MineralMan

(146,371 posts)
36. Glenn Greenwald has just about a zero audience these days.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jun 2016

The only people listening to him already have their minds made up and aren't interested in anything much that might counter their biases. He's no longer a factor in national politics.

aikoaiko

(34,187 posts)
10. Bernie liked how she confronted Trump.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:55 AM
Jun 2016

I know you're unhappy that he reminded everyone that HRC screwed up on the Iraq war, but that wasn't about her speech.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
13. SOME Bernie supporters didn't like it.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:14 AM
Jun 2016

A lot of Bernie supporters, even here on DU, said they liked it a lot.

Hekate

(91,284 posts)
11. LOLZ. I love how so many envisaged it as evisceration, rending, tearing, bloodshed....
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:01 AM
Jun 2016

It was a great speech. And -- she's off! Let the General Election begin!

Jack Bone

(2,023 posts)
12. That's one of the many things wrong with the world
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:11 AM
Jun 2016

Writers and reporters enthusiastic assessment of a foreign policy "speech" that proposed no policy.

Sure it sounds great!! The 5-10 second blurbs for the cable news shows are awesome....but it wasn't a speech....it was barely an address.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
20. She can't win with her critics.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:26 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary's been historically bad at producing "soundbite" quotes, preferring to explain things in detail, which her critics lambaste her for as "waffling". But when she makes the most "soundbite" speech possible, guaranteeing coverage on every major news network for the next week and giving a wealth of material to use for ads, she's criticised for that too.

brush

(54,102 posts)
30. Whatever you want to call it. it did the job on Trump.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jun 2016

She's off and running.

Bernie, you coming?

Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
22. My personal favorite
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:46 AM
Jun 2016

Hillary Clinton Argues That Giving Nuclear Codes to Ill-tempered Ignoramus Would Be Mistake

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
23. a PERSON responds to HRC's speech
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:37 AM
Jun 2016

Here are some excerpts from her speech yesterday:

"And if America doesn’t lead, we leave a vacuum – and that will either cause chaos, or other countries will rush in to fill the void. Then they’ll be the ones making the decisions about your lives and jobs and safety – and trust me, the choices they make will not be to our benefit.
That is not an outcome we can live with."

She will continue the current wars and promote the US 'policing' the rest of the world...



"Third, we need to embrace all the tools of American power, especially diplomacy and development, to be on the frontlines solving problems before they threaten us at home." ... "Now we must enforce that deal vigorously. And as I’ve said many times before, our approach must be “distrust and verify.” The world must understand that the United States will act decisively if necessary, including with military action, to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. In particular, Israel’s security is non-negotiable. They’re our closest ally in the region, and we have a moral obligation to defend them."

When did the US need to become more imperialistic? when did this become a progressive / liberal position?



"Fifth, we need a real plan for confronting terrorists. As we saw six months ago in San Bernardino, the threat is real and urgent. Over the past year, I’ve laid out my plans for defeating ISIS.
We need to take out their strongholds in Iraq and Syria by intensifying the air campaign and stepping up our support for Arab and Kurdish forces on the ground."

Now she's throwing Obama under the bus? 'we need a real plan for confronting terrorists'? Obama doesn't have a real plan being acted upon currently?



"And one more thing. A President has a sacred responsibility to send our troops into battle only if we absolutely must, and only with a clear and well-thought-out strategy. Our troops give their all. They deserve a commander-in-chief who knows that."

Where does Libya fall into the category of 'well thought out'?

I'm tired of wars that lack planning in the aftermath, the conclusion and reconstruction...
I'm tired of $$ being tossed out the window without clarity and an audit
I'm tired of lack of reporting on the longest war the US has ever been involved in...

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
28. ...corrected...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:16 AM
Jun 2016

'Does her speech make you question the platform policy of war hawk she's proposing?'

To your pivot, I'd answer with neither... I'd NOT vote based upon both their positions on this single issue

Are you a single issue voter? Or can DEM folks be critical of candidates when their issues don't match up with DEM party positions?

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
37. ...incorrerct...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

If that were the case HRC wouldn't be pointing out other issues, but she is so there's that to contend with as opposing your point

why you or any DEM would be embracing war hawk positions is stunning, then these pivots away from actual discussion on that point is telling

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
39. because principles matter
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jun 2016

I see you're willing to shed your principles so easily, noted

what you claim as 'distractions' I claim are core elements of what DEM party stands for and against...

war hawk is not a DEM core element, are you suggesting it is?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
40. Every minute I spend arguing with you is one less minute I have to fight fascism.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016


First Trump came for the Muslims, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Muslim

Then Trump came for the Hispanics, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Hispanic.

Then Trump came for the Asians, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Asian.

Then Trump came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.


 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
44. We've had uninterrupted Creeping Fascism since around 1980
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:05 AM
Jun 2016

Trump is just more blatant about it.

I'd prefer we ALSO make a break with the under-the-table Corporate Ruthlessness form of Fascism, as well as the obvious form that Trump represents.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
24. And on DU: "This is a HORRIBLE speech from our 'presumptive' nominee".
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:43 AM
Jun 2016

DU is different from the real world.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
45. It was a well-delivered but mediocre business-as-usual nothingburger
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:06 AM
Jun 2016

With some subtle NeoConservativism thrown in for good measure

Hokie

(4,288 posts)
27. Great post bigtree. Yes it was an awesome speech
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:11 AM
Jun 2016

I am glad to see the response was so positive. Often Hillary doesn't deliver speeches as well as President Obama but this one was her best work. We need to see this Hillary more often. I think we will.

Peacetrain

(22,902 posts)
33. She hit the right notes..tone..it was awesome
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:30 AM
Jun 2016

She did what 16 republican candidates for nomination.. could not do.. put back on Donald Trump his own words and hold him accountable.. wtg

MineralMan

(146,371 posts)
35. Yup. And the major network national news programs
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

showed important clips from her speech and contrasted them with Trump's weak "she needs to go to jail" non-response. There is no mistaking the effect of her speech in San Diego. She has exposed Donald Trump for the low-vocabulary, low-idea buffoon that he is.

I hope she continues to attack Trump in similar ways on all important issues, not just foreign affairs. I'm sure she will be greatly encouraged by the reception of yesterday's speech and will extend that to her other speeches.

Trump simply doesn't have the intelligence or the vocabulary to counter Hillary. He's a fool, an idiot and a clown. Easy prey for Hillary Clinton.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
49. She did it well...But I like Bernie's "pathological liar" line about him better
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jun 2016

Has a certain ring to it.

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