Hillary Clinton's Foreign Policy Speech MARRED by Inherent Contradictions

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"Hillary Clinton's history of supporting interventionism puts her in a weird place to be portraying her opponent as trigger happy."

-snip-

The speech, delivered in San Diego five days ahead of California's June 7 primary, lambasted the presumptive Republican nominee as "temperamentally unfit" to be President of the United States. The full remarks are here.

"Americans aren't just electing a president in November," Clinton said, "we're choosing our next commander-in-chief, a person we count on to answer questions of war and peace, life and death. The person the Republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job."

Clinton noted that Trump has praised leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korea's Kim Jong Un, quipping: "I will leave it to the psychiatrists to explain his affection for tyrants." But that was just one of several statements that raised observers' eyebrows, in a speech that some said was full of fundamental contradictions—and hinted at Clinton's own hawkish positions. After all, as journalist Robert Parry wrote in April, "If Clinton becomes President, she will be surrounded by a neocon-dominated American foreign policy establishment that will press her to resume its 'regime change' strategies in the Middle East and escalate its new and dangerous Cold War against Russia."

Glenn Greenwald ✔@ggreenwald

Awkward: Hillary to give a speech on the very thing Dem pundits have spent a year desperately trying to ignore: her foreign policy.

Anya Parampil @anyaparampil

#Clinton just put military action against Iran back on the table and criticized Trump for wanting to be "neutral" on Israel/Palestine

Anya Parampil @anyaparampil

Listening to this speech & Clinton's words on Iran, Russia, & Israel, SHE sounds like the neocon candidate. Why can't Kristol run her?

Shazad Hamid @ShazadHamid

Like Clinton's love for Henry Kissinger, Benjamin Netanyahu, the king of Saudi Arabia, and Dick Cheney.
https://twitter.com/aseitzwald/status/738451357942718464 …

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http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/06/02/clintons-foreign-policy-speech-marred-inherent-contradictions

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1. Hillary Clinton = Neocon = More wars

[msongs]

9. bernie = spend money for more killing and war long as vermont gets gimmees from it nt

[actslikeacarrot]

41. Hey now, he's just taking clintobs advice...

...looking at war as a "business opportunity!"

[Bill USA]

17. here's 1 equally sensible: Bernie, socialist = Communist = Joseph Stalin...LOL!!

That's just as sensible as your nonsense.

[rhett o rick]

31. Not so, and not even a good try. Hillary = Iraq War = 1 million dead and 5 million lives ruined.

I think her words were "We came we saw and Iraqi's died". It wasn't personal, it was just a business opportunity. She is now worth $150,000,000 plus her Foundation Retirement Plan.

You've embraced a neocon candidate, Richard Perle, Kristol, Kissinger and all the neocons love her. Attempting to deny it or try to claim Bernie is as bad is desperate.

[Ferd Berfel]

18. exactly

Wonder if her lame performance today has anything to do with not doing press conf for.......what? 100+ days?

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19. Its Clinton Theater and they have their act down to an art.

[Ferd Berfel]

21. Kabuki 2016 Mystery Theater

[pangaia]

28. Please don't insult kabuki.

Second only to Noh.

[frylock]

51. Just to complete this sub..

[pangaia]

57. LOL !!!

Who's on foist?

[bjo59]

36. Perfect image and exactly right.

[Justice]

2. OP marred by incoherent snipped and clipped comments.

[trumad]

3. June 14th

Can't wait.

[leveymg]

6. Jan. 22. She can push the button. Betya can't wait.

[Ned_Devine]

7. Will her foreign policy record disappear then?

I remember when, as a democrat, it wasn't "cool" to saber rattle and want to get involved in foreign skirmishes around the world. When did we change? I know a lot of us didn't change at all and we still hate this "muscular foreign policy" baloney.

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10. We didn't change,....they are trying to change us to be as them.

[haikugal]

11. OBEY!!!! HEEL damnit!!!!!!

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12. Yes,...Hillary wants to bring us 'to heel'....

[upaloopa]

30. Take responcibility for yourself.

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33. Try using the spell check......

[Ned_Devine]

47. It's called "creative spelling"

[bjo59]

42. I agree and was surprised by the statistics at the end of the article that suggest that the majority

of Democrats think we're better off as a result of US interventionist wars. Our "muscular foreign policy" has led to the wholesale murder and destitution of millions upon millions. Has the American population truly become so cynical and self absorbed that a major percentage just don't care about that? "Culture of Narcissism" (Christopher Lasch) indeed.

[basselope]

15. Nothing will change. Not a damn thing.

[rhett o rick]

34. You can't wait for the wars? How sad. nm

[tonyt53]

4. Next time get some opinions from experts.

[leveymg]

8. She already have the Kagans under contract. Who else do you recommend?

[Sky Masterson]

5. She has learned nothing.

Bombs and showing strength. Israel 100% correct every time. Palestinians are insignificant.

"And if America doesn’t lead, we leave a vacuum – and that will either cause chaos, or other countries will rush in to fill the void. Then they’ll be the ones making the decisions about your lives and jobs and safety – and trust me, the choices they make will not be to our benefit.
That is not an outcome we can live with.
As I see it, there are some important things our next President must do to secure American leadership and keep us safe and our economy growing in the years ahead. These are all areas in which Donald Trump and I profoundly disagree. And they are all critical to our future."

Yay! Lets flex them muscles!

[haikugal]

13. She has the bigger dick and balls! See, women are no different from men!!! Equal opportunity!!!!

[rhett o rick]

37. She has something to prove that she is tougher than Kissinger or Cheney. That's what scares me.

Heaven help our troops and their families.

[haikugal]

40. Very true.

[bjo59]

44. Yeah and she's very driven to prove that at the expense of so many.

Margaret Thatcher had that problem too.

[yourpaljoey]

14. Looks like she does not need Independents, either

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16. She's created a string of miscalculations

that have cost her dearly starting with the 2008 Democratic primary, losing to Barack Obama....then, underestimating Bernie Sanders in a 2015/2016 coronation year for her and thinking she was beyond clever to install a private server in her home just to thwart FOIA requests while SoS.......yup,..really smart she is....

[Ferd Berfel]

20. dosen't matter - she'll triangulate to parts known if she pulls this off

Round and Round She Goes - where she stops nobody knows


ya pays yer money, and ya takes yer chances

[yourpaljoey]

23. Now we know what Hill accomplished while SOS.

Criminal activity and so much of it.
Wonder if she knows she's done. Who will tell her and when?

[Waiting For Everyman]

22. Greenwald nailed it: awkward.

It was the pot calling the kettle black throughout.

She gives a better speech (although still painfully offputting and tedious to watch) and she memorizes reusable talking points better, but after that I've got nothing to put in the plus column.

[BootinUp]

24. nonsense. She represents stability vs. Trumps non-stability. nt

[floppyboo]

55. Sounds like you agree with everyman

she did a good job getting some talking points out: Stability vs non-stability (sic)
See, you already have got that one down!

[randome]

26. So public speaking isn't her strong point. So what?

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[frylock]

54. Or sound foreign policy decisions, but so what?

[randome]

25. Sanders supporters' histrionic posts MARRED by abuse of the Caps lock key.

Funny how most media outlets seem to think it was a pretty good speech.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[okieinpain]

27. so are you bernie sanders supporters saying that bernie will not use the military. n/t.

[randome]

29. He will retrain the military to dispense rainbows instead.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[okieinpain]

35. ok, guessing not a bernie supporter. n/t.

[bjo59]

45. So if a country has a military, it should be used (and often) - is that what you're implying?

[okieinpain]

50. nope, i asking if bernie has to use the military is he now like hillary or

is it only bad to use the military if hillary is the one making the orders. because in this day and time you folks don't really think you're not going to have to kill anyone. you don't think that just because it's president sanders all the other actors in the world are just going to start acting like nice guys.

[actslikeacarrot]

46. Out of all three candidates...

...I believe he would use it the least.

[okieinpain]

52. ok that's honest and actually a good answer. but you realize that he will have to

take some actions that will not be pretty.

[Skwmom]

32. Her Domestic Policy is filled with inherent contradictions. Did you really think her foreign policy

wouldn't be?

[ucrdem]

38. Help help I’m being repressed!

Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

[reddread]

43. tell that joke in Iraq

[bjo59]

48. Wow. Tell that joke to all those dead people in

Iraq, Syra, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, and Afghanistan.

[ucrdem]

49. "This country will rid our planet of this barbarous organization called ISIS." Who said that?

Hint: wasn't Hillary.

Together, leading the world, this country will rid our planet of this barbarous organization called ISIS.

http://time.com/4113434/transcript-read-the-full-text-of-the-second-democratic-debate/

[NCTraveler]

39. I thought it was excellent.

You might not have known as I don't have a Twitter account.

[Jester Messiah]

53. Lotta warhawks around here these days.

That's new.

[kevinmc]

56. Really Grasping at Straws with this article n/t