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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:15 PM May 2016

What are the ticket, the platform, and the convention theme calculated to win back the Senate?

We don't need control of the House or the Senate to deregulate Wall Street and the rest of the financial and banking sector, to cripple domestic labor by one-sided foreign trade agreements, to boost fossil fuel extraction, to expand the role of private prisons in our justice system, or to create boondoggles for the pharmaceutical industry.

To accomplish Democratic goals, however, we will need to take back the Senate.

There will be a number of close races where we will have an excellent of winning if we can inspire our voters to show up at the polls:

Ayotte vs. Hassan in New Hampshire
Johnson vs. Feingold in Wisconsin
Bennet vs. Glenn in Colorado
Kirk vs. Duckworth in Illinois
Portman vs. Strickland in Ohio

Democrats lose close contests when voter turnout is down, but win close contests when voter turnout is up.

The decisions about the ticket, the party platform, and the convention should be calculated to increase voter turnout among our base in November. Otherwise, we lose.

Ask yourself -

what ticket would increase enthusiasm and voter turnout in November?
what could we do with our party platform to increase enthusiasm and voter turnout in November?
what could we do at the convention to increase enthusiasm and voter turnout in November?
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What are the ticket, the platform, and the convention theme calculated to win back the Senate? (Original Post) Attorney in Texas May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue Meany May 2016 #1
Hillary Clinton, The Democratic Platform as is, Democrats United To Defeat Trump. onehandle May 2016 #2
That's half your ticket, an out of date platform, and a convention theme that offers no outreach to Attorney in Texas May 2016 #8
She does not inspire, the dem platform as is is toxic and will keep voters at home larkrake May 2016 #9
Yet another calculated plea to the superdelegates, I see? Tarc May 2016 #3
The "ticket" includes a presidential nominee and a VP nominee. This post is not suggesting any Attorney in Texas May 2016 #6
she should address that concern, yes, but she will not allow a VP who can larkrake May 2016 #10
The list of VP candidates who would not upstage her is a list of candidates who will not inspire Attorney in Texas May 2016 #11
can you think of anyone? Can Obama be VP? larkrake May 2016 #22
Hillary would not be upstaged by the modern day Joe Liebermans: Tim Kaine, Mark Warner, Evan Bayh... Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #32
OK, lets consider them larkrake Jun 2016 #33
Not me. I wouldn't vote for a ticket with any of them. Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #37
Sanders will not be Hillary's VP candidate Tarc May 2016 #13
Seems unlikely. That does not erase the fact that she is in the midst of losing the general election Attorney in Texas May 2016 #15
Still to be determined. Orsino May 2016 #4
A socialist who lost the primaries. Huge tax increases. Angry dudes wielding chairs. YouDig May 2016 #5
You left out "Paid internet 'supporters'" AgingAmerican May 2016 #23
Are you paid? YouDig May 2016 #24
No Im not a Hillary supporter AgingAmerican May 2016 #26
Do you really think I'm getting paid? Like, truthfully you think that? YouDig May 2016 #27
Does anyone remember anything about past platforms? RandySF May 2016 #7
Of course, don't you remember the progressive disappointment over the 2012 platform's failure to Attorney in Texas May 2016 #14
I remember winning the election RandySF May 2016 #19
It not about making country better. TimPlo May 2016 #29
Not everyone votes based on team spirit. For example, Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval is a Republican Attorney in Texas Jun 2016 #31
Of course every serious voter does AgingAmerican May 2016 #25
"Who else are you gonna vote for, ya dirty hippies?" QC May 2016 #12
I have nightmares of her thinking "Joe Lieberman is retired so who can we find to bring Joementum Attorney in Texas May 2016 #16
Zell Miller is only 84 and has immaculate New Dem credentials. QC May 2016 #17
Don't give her any ideas. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #18
Maybe I should become a "consultant." n/t QC May 2016 #20
There is no such intent, I think the plan is just to negotiate ideological surrender as always TheKentuckian May 2016 #21
wow, thats a mouthful Kentuk, and disturbingly correct larkrake Jun 2016 #34
We can't win either chamber, regardless of who is at the top of the ticket. It's going to be a hosti Exilednight May 2016 #28
absolutely , so concentrate on state races, its the only power we will get this rotation larkrake Jun 2016 #35
A simple Progressive platform and ticket will win all these things. A complicated, triangulating, highprincipleswork May 2016 #30
Thanx for posting larkrake Jun 2016 #36

Response to Attorney in Texas (Original post)

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
8. That's half your ticket, an out of date platform, and a convention theme that offers no outreach to
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:34 PM
May 2016

any voters who are not already on board with the goal of defeating Trump (and probably we don't need to reach out to any such voters).

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
9. She does not inspire, the dem platform as is is toxic and will keep voters at home
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
May 2016

United to defeat Trump, maybe

Tarc

(10,469 posts)
3. Yet another calculated plea to the superdelegates, I see?
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

If you wanted Sanders to be the nominee, he had to win more pledged delegates.

He didn't, so he won't be.

How hard is this to accept?

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
6. The "ticket" includes a presidential nominee and a VP nominee. This post is not suggesting any
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

candidate for either post.

All I'm saying is if Hillary is at the top of the ticket, we ought to fill out the ticket to encourage more enthusiasm. If Sanders were at the top of the ticket, she does not have an enthusiasm problem to needs to be addressed by the selection of a running mate who might make up for that weakness, but Hillary should be motivated by that concern.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
10. she should address that concern, yes, but she will not allow a VP who can
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:43 PM
May 2016

upstage her- its not in her DNA. The DNC may insist she take a strong VP, but for the life of me, I cannot see who that would be

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
11. The list of VP candidates who would not upstage her is a list of candidates who will not inspire
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:18 PM
May 2016

enthusiasm.

Most candidates are wise enough to pick a running mate who makes up for a weakness. Hillary's weakness is the lack of enthusiasm from a perceived lack of commitment to positive change, perceived lack of candor, perceived lack of likability and trustworthiness. These are factors that should guide her VP analysis.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
15. Seems unlikely. That does not erase the fact that she is in the midst of losing the general election
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

before it starts and she does not seem to be focused on fixing the fatal lack of enthusiasm and trust that will elect Trump is she fails to fix the problem asap.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
4. Still to be determined.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:22 PM
May 2016

Another more-of-the-same nominee wouldn't seem to promise much change, but this year's convention will be leavened with a lot of new progressive faces and delegates.

Let's mix it up, folks, and try getting some new things done.

YouDig

(2,280 posts)
5. A socialist who lost the primaries. Huge tax increases. Angry dudes wielding chairs.
Tue May 31, 2016, 12:26 PM
May 2016

On second thought, no, that would be a horrible idea.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
14. Of course, don't you remember the progressive disappointment over the 2012 platform's failure to
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

repudiate the death penalty and its support for lowering corporate tax rates and its craw-fishing on the 2008 platform's statement against human rights abuses at Guantanamo and its addition of we-love-fossil-fuel-pipelines language new to the 2012 platform?

The 2012 platform was pretty craptastic.

We must do better.

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
29. It not about making country better.
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:51 PM
May 2016

It is about Winning. We must beat the Letter (R) because that letter is evil and corrupted. It is a R and must be taken down by the D. That is all that matters.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
31. Not everyone votes based on team spirit. For example, Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval is a Republican
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jun 2016

who is preferable to West Virginia Governor Earl Tomblin who is a Democrat.

Democrats are only preferable to the extent that they promote Democratic principles, and Republicans are only questionable to the extent that they promote a reactionary agenda. Beyond that, it's just labels.

This "D = good; R = evil" nonsense is a formula for children who cannot think for themselves. There is a lot of that in this forum.

QC

(26,371 posts)
12. "Who else are you gonna vote for, ya dirty hippies?"
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

I predict that it will work about as well as it always does.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
16. I have nightmares of her thinking "Joe Lieberman is retired so who can we find to bring Joementum
Tue May 31, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

to the ticket - someone as well loved by the party as Joe Lieberman and with same level of credibility with the grassroots - who is the 2016 version of Joe Lieberman to run with me without upstaging me? Hmmm"

TheKentuckian

(24,823 posts)
21. There is no such intent, I think the plan is just to negotiate ideological surrender as always
Tue May 31, 2016, 03:34 PM
May 2016

while whining about obstruction and liberals abandoning them as the excuse for selling out.

The Turd Way is ideologically bankrupt and has been for years, about as soon as they were able to complete their hostile take over as evidenced by then scavenging the Heritage Foundation's rejected notions for policy that they can sell to us as beneficial in some part that also serve their true masters.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
34. wow, thats a mouthful Kentuk, and disturbingly correct
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jun 2016

just follow the red dot, kitty kitty, ignore the man stealing your life

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
28. We can't win either chamber, regardless of who is at the top of the ticket. It's going to be a hosti
Tue May 31, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

Congress no matter who wins.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
30. A simple Progressive platform and ticket will win all these things. A complicated, triangulating,
Tue May 31, 2016, 07:22 PM
May 2016

not to be trusted platform and ticket will not.

Whether he wins or loses, Bernie's success, and the success of the Progressive politics Hillary has copied him in during the whole primary season, prove the appetite right now for Progressive/Populist politics.

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