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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:23 PM May 2016

Everyone understands the purpose of the State Department's report on Hillary's email server, right?

The State Department is on Hillary's side. In fact, the State Department is Hillary's side. The State Department is controlled pretty directly (not as directly as the DoJ but more directly than the FBI) by Obama, and Obama is on Hillary's side.

The State Department report and especially the timing of the report would not happen without a reason.

The only reason for State Department report and for the timing of the report is to get out ahead of the FBI recommendation. Whatever you think of the State Department report, you can bet that the FBI recommendation is on its heels and the State Department report will offer a better spin than wherever can be spun out of the forthcoming FBI recommendation.

Buckle up.

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Everyone understands the purpose of the State Department's report on Hillary's email server, right? (Original Post) Attorney in Texas May 2016 OP
So you're saying politics takes precedence over policy and procedure violations? Avalux May 2016 #1
So sad that you won't see Clinton taken down LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #39
Sanders supporters want the TRUTH panader0 May 2016 #40
It's all been put out there. She said she was wrong months ago, turned over thousands of e-mails Jitter65 May 2016 #43
You wrote a lot of words, some even in the right order. morningfog May 2016 #47
No, it has not all been put out there. That's why there is this investigation thingy. panader0 May 2016 #50
So by understanding Bernie supporters mean underthematrix May 2016 #52
STOP WITH THE NEVER HACKED. Bob41213 May 2016 #63
Sanders supporters want Sanders. barrow-wight May 2016 #45
Sanders supporters want to win LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #56
"Why are Berners on board with that?" demwing May 2016 #46
If she is found guilty - you 840high May 2016 #54
Why does it need to be spun? "Spin" is just another word for "lie" Press Virginia May 2016 #2
Seems like it would support an indictment Skink May 2016 #3
The whole point was to attach the "other people did it too" defense to the issue DebDoo May 2016 #4
I think the point is to say there's a systemic problem at the State Department. Garrett78 May 2016 #5
Has the "we all speed" defense ever gotten anyone out of a 100 mph over the limit ticket before? DebDoo May 2016 #9
No, and Clinton is obviously not helped by being part of a systemic problem. Garrett78 May 2016 #12
Except it's the current SoS who asked for the investigation. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #42
Hillary's problem was of a different kind. morningfog May 2016 #48
That was already established early on. Corpmedia wasn't interested in that fact. blm May 2016 #10
Did you ever use that excuse as a kid Avalux May 2016 #16
by that logic, you could say: I didnt know murder was illegal, and besides, other people do it:) litlbilly May 2016 #30
The report addresses that, although in a bit of an understated way: yodermon May 2016 #19
The fact that Hillary was the only SoS to refuse to cooperate with the audit NWCorona May 2016 #21
Except when they were doing it they weren't actually breaking rules. She was. The rules became JudyM May 2016 #49
It's apparent to me that you don't know much about John Kerry. blm May 2016 #6
Add to that that this is the report of the SD IG, a man chosen for his integrity karynnj May 2016 #23
Those trying to use this to smear Kerry and Obama are fullofsh!t and transparent in their blm May 2016 #26
What? 840high May 2016 #57
Good point about the SD IG report.... KoKo May 2016 #29
Here's the sad thing. Clinton has taken it to such an extreme, with no accountablity, it has Skwmom May 2016 #24
The intel people are pissed. 840high May 2016 #58
excellet! GOP would use this to intensify their attack on government of any kind amborin May 2016 #70
Exactly right. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #7
How would anyone like Putin to hold their fate? gordianot May 2016 #13
As I recall when Nixon decided to resign the blow came from his staunchest supporters in party. gordianot May 2016 #8
That was my thought exactly. This is the GOOD report. Vinca May 2016 #11
I don't care. Nothing's going to happen w/ that, IMO Triana May 2016 #14
The report refers to this...she screwed up - purposely, it seems... jmg257 May 2016 #20
Nothing will happen, until she's elected & gets a GOP led House / Senate ... Myrina May 2016 #35
Don't forget the upcoming public releases aspirant May 2016 #15
I agree that with California vote looming and the convention right after, it has Todays_Illusion May 2016 #17
It is another bad, costly, risky and potentially dangerous decision to add to the pile. CentralMass May 2016 #61
The Oligarchy runs our government and they are not about to let Sanders and the 99% rhett o rick May 2016 #18
All I know is when I heard it was a Report by the State Dept I knew there had to be some angle Skwmom May 2016 #22
With friends like this, who needs enemies.... Bob41213 May 2016 #28
This is bad news for Hillary and the worse news will be along shortly. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #37
Yes, that was my first thought. Getting out ahead of the FBI report. mmonk May 2016 #25
Right, and thanks. JDPriestly May 2016 #27
Stop throwing shade on John Kerry. emulatorloo May 2016 #31
No shade on Kerry. It's not improper for State to release its report before the FBI recommendation. Attorney in Texas May 2016 #34
Just heard this report was leaked..... Bob41213 May 2016 #32
You can see the press conference today with the State Department rep on youtube (C-Span). bjo59 May 2016 #66
Saw it and I agree... Bob41213 May 2016 #67
'Limited hangout" Babel_17 May 2016 #33
Thanks Attorney in Texas. I agree. K&R JonLeibowitz May 2016 #36
This will dominate tomorrow's morning news shows Vote2016 May 2016 #38
And one time, at band camp ... JoePhilly May 2016 #41
I think that Obama can't stand Hillary. panader0 May 2016 #44
Plus it makes him look a bit of a fool that a member of his cabinet was using her own server for JudyM May 2016 #51
Not buying it. CincyDem May 2016 #64
You have a point there. However, interesting on AC360 late last night they brought up that same JudyM May 2016 #71
Not an AC360 viewer and... CincyDem May 2016 #72
Agree. 840high May 2016 #60
I'm at the point where I can only imagine that classified info was passed... Barack_America May 2016 #53
The Chinese absolutely got everything.... Bob41213 May 2016 #59
Short of her handing out her password like crackerjack prizes Lars39 May 2016 #68
Buckle Up Indeed pmorlan1 May 2016 #55
I just read this and wondered why they bothered -- it was kind of meaningless Samantha May 2016 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow May 2016 #65
which is the real reason for the push for Sanders to drop out Mnpaul May 2016 #69

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
1. So you're saying politics takes precedence over policy and procedure violations?
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:29 PM
May 2016

It's unfortunate but true; however the SD report isn't exactly glowing. Will be interesting to see what the FBI has to say.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
39. So sad that you won't see Clinton taken down
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:40 PM
May 2016

Seems like a Republican hope. Why are Berners on board with that?

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
43. It's all been put out there. She said she was wrong months ago, turned over thousands of e-mails
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:50 PM
May 2016

unlike other SOS who used private e-mails. She didn't conduct official business, and her server was never hacked. Attempts were made to hack her server but did not succeed...evidently her server was safer than those of the State Department which were hacked.

Unless some thin criminal shows up in the FBI investigation we can just move on...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
47. You wrote a lot of words, some even in the right order.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

But what you said is a garbled mess. A pile of parroted catch phrases you've been fed and regurgitated at once.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
50. No, it has not all been put out there. That's why there is this investigation thingy.
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:02 PM
May 2016

She did conduct official business, on emails that Putin has seen. It was Russian intelligence that gave Guccifer his lead.
You know, the guy arrested for hacking her computer. Her server was not safe. Look up Datto and the Platte River
Network. They sored her emails in a cloud. All of their employees has access to the emails, and none of them has any security
clearance. It's a monstrous fuck-up on an epic scale. She should never be allowed to have a security clearance again,
which would mean--not presidential.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
52. So by understanding Bernie supporters mean
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:09 PM
May 2016

you must agree with us on the meaning of the report or you don't understand it. i read the entire unclassified OIG report and found it fascinating. To me it's a study in how organizations really work which why foreseeable shit happens in large bureaucracies.

Anyone who's ever held a job understands the broader issues here which were addressed in the OIG recommendations.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
63. STOP WITH THE NEVER HACKED.
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:46 PM
May 2016

Just today, the State Department REFUSED TO SAY THE SERVER WAS NOT HACKED.

barrow-wight

(744 posts)
45. Sanders supporters want Sanders.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:54 PM
May 2016

I think they would allow for just about anything to happen to Hillary if it got her out of the way.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
2. Why does it need to be spun? "Spin" is just another word for "lie"
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:30 PM
May 2016

The report isn't good. Especially the refusal to cooperate by HRC and her staff.
What can they claim as a reason other than the FBI investigation, which they've claimed was only a security review?

I think she's got some real trouble and this is just the first shoe to drop

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. I think the point is to say there's a systemic problem at the State Department.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:34 PM
May 2016

It'll get fixed and everyone will move on.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
12. No, and Clinton is obviously not helped by being part of a systemic problem.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

But the problem will get fixed and everyone will move on. It's not going to do the kind of damage to Clinton that many are wishing it will do.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
48. Hillary's problem was of a different kind.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:56 PM
May 2016

The laws were updated, she knew it. She intentionally skirted them.

blm

(112,777 posts)
10. That was already established early on. Corpmedia wasn't interested in that fact.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:37 PM
May 2016

Even when Colin Powell came out and said it shortly after the 'scandal' broke. Corpmedia did a collective yawn and continued to act as stenographers for the GOP.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
16. Did you ever use that excuse as a kid
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

when asked why you did something you knew was probably not the best choice? Didn't work out so well.

That's exactly what this report aims to do, by pointing out there were systemic problems in the State Department for decades, but bottom line - Hillary was SoS and in charge of the SD (as she loves to boast about). There were policies and procedures in place during her tenure and she violated them.

If I willfully went against the policies and procedures of my place of employment I'd be fired.

The report is trying to absolve Hillary of personal responsibility. I hope the FBI sees it differently.


 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
30. by that logic, you could say: I didnt know murder was illegal, and besides, other people do it:)
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
21. The fact that Hillary was the only SoS to refuse to cooperate with the audit
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:50 PM
May 2016

Will definitely work against her.

JudyM

(29,036 posts)
49. Except when they were doing it they weren't actually breaking rules. She was. The rules became
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:57 PM
May 2016

more comprehensive. And she went waaay beyond what the others did, in practice, as well.

karynnj

(59,430 posts)
23. Add to that that this is the report of the SD IG, a man chosen for his integrity
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:57 PM
May 2016

and ability to act as an internal watch dog. First, it is significant that the SD filled the IG slot, that had been vacant for 5 years. Second when it was clear that this could be a problem, Kerry asked him to do a full study.

Here is Linick's statement to the SFRC when he had confirmation hearings. http://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Linick%20SFRC.pdf

In fact, I see absolutely nothing in the report that I had not already known from the various accounts. It is true that those depending just on media matters might being seeing things that they hadn't seen before - other than as spun as not true.

I have no idea if they are trying to get ahead of the FBI report. The last I read was that they had suspended their investigation to let the FBI proceed unimpeded. That, might suggest that the FBI did what they needed to do, allowed the SD IG to continue - and they did and now have issued their report.

I would not be surprised if the FBI report is pretty close to this -- which was pretty close to the March 2015 NYT article, which was blasted here and by media matters and the rest of the Brock outlets.

I suspect that this will not lead to a Clinton indictment, but it does remain as a negative that emphasizes her unwillingness to allow oversight because of her quest for privacy.

blm

(112,777 posts)
26. Those trying to use this to smear Kerry and Obama are fullofsh!t and transparent in their
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:03 PM
May 2016

quest to undermine them with other Democrats.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
29. Good point about the SD IG report....
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:14 PM
May 2016

I thought it interesting, though, that they didn't release this report as part of the "Friday News Dump" where it wouldn't have gotten as much MSM coverage.

I was also aware that Comey requested the SD IG to be suspended so that FBI could proceed. Hard to know though whether releasing the SD IG report and allowing the MSM to talk about it for a few days is a way of softening the public for worse to follow or nothing to do with the FBI. The FBI requested her Private Server and copies plus the Clinton Foundation's server for the time she was SOS and if there's evidence of Clinton Foundation (CGI) correspondence between Hillary on that server it would make things more complicated. Also Brian had Set up the Server for Clinton Foundation and then transferred it over to Hillary's address when she became SOS. Bill had an e-mail address on the server. At least that's what I've read.

snip from you....

I have no idea if they are trying to get ahead of the FBI report. The last I read was that they had suspended their investigation to let the FBI proceed unimpeded. That, might suggest that the FBI did what they needed to do, allowed the SD IG to continue - and they did and now have issued their report.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
24. Here's the sad thing. Clinton has taken it to such an extreme, with no accountablity, it has
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:58 PM
May 2016

made many people question every government official.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
7. Exactly right.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

This will be a tsunami of a mess, and it is not containable.

The thing to remember is, all of this is of her own doing. It is entirely self-inflicted. She CHOSE to do this, no one forced her to and there was no good reason to do it. There is no one to blame this on but herself.

The crazily poor judgement is once again on display.

In the same way, we have no need to commit a self-inflicted wound ourselves, by conditioning our political chances on hers.

gordianot

(15,220 posts)
8. As I recall when Nixon decided to resign the blow came from his staunchest supporters in party.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

At this point I see no indication Hillary might leave even if she is indicted. She does not seem willing to jump ship going for broke.

Vinca

(50,086 posts)
11. That was my thought exactly. This is the GOOD report.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:39 PM
May 2016

And the fact it's being dropped just before a holiday weekend is ominous.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
14. I don't care. Nothing's going to happen w/ that, IMO
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:40 PM
May 2016

I read previously that the rules changed after she became SoS and they were unclear to begin with and likely other SoSs also violated them.

So...nothing.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
20. The report refers to this...she screwed up - purposely, it seems...
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:47 PM
May 2016

"Secretary Clinton: By Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the Department’s guidance was considerably
more detailed and more sophisticated. Beginning in late 2005 and continuing through 2011, the
Department revised the FAM and issued various memoranda specifically discussing the
obligation to use Department systems in most circumstances and identifying the risks of not
doing so. Secretary Clinton’s cybersecurity practices accordingly must be evaluated in light of
these more comprehensive directives."
...

Secretary Clinton used mobile devices to conduct official business using the personal email
account on her private server extensively, as illustrated by the 55,000 pages of material making
up the approximately 30,000 emails she provided to the Department in December 2014.
Throughout Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the FAM stated that normal day-to-day operations
should be conducted on an authorized AIS,147 yet OIG found no evidence that the Secretary
requested or obtained guidance or approval to conduct official business via a personal email
account on her private server.
According to the current CIO and Assistant Secretary for
Diplomatic Security, Secretary Clinton had an obligation to discuss using her personal email
account to conduct official business with their offices, who in turn would have attempted to
provide her with approved and secured means that met her business needs. However, according
to these officials, DS and IRM did not—and would not—approve her exclusive reliance on a
personal email account to conduct Department business, because of the restrictions in the FAM
and the security risks in doing so.

During Secretary Clinton’s tenure, the FAM also instructed employees that they were expected
to use approved, secure methods to transmit SBU information and that, if they needed to
transmit SBU information outside the Department’s OpenNet network on a regular basis to nonDepartmental
addresses, they should request a solution from IRM.148 However, OIG found no
evidence that Secretary Clinton ever contacted IRM to request such a solution, despite the fact
that emails exchanged on her personal account regularly contained information marked as SBU.

Similarly, the FAM contained provisions requiring employees who process SBU information on
their own devices to ensure that appropriate administrative, technical, and physical safeguards
are maintained to protect the confidentiality and integrity of records and to ensure encryption
of SBU information with products certified by NIST.149 With regard to encryption, Secretary
Clinton’s website states that “robust protections were put in place and additional upgrades and
techniques employed over time as they became available, including consulting and employing
third party experts.”150 Although this report does not address the safety or security of her
system, DS and IRM reported to OIG that Secretary Clinton never demonstrated to them that her
private server or mobile device met minimum information security requirements specified by
FISMA and the FAM. "

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
35. Nothing will happen, until she's elected & gets a GOP led House / Senate ...
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:36 PM
May 2016

.... and then it's investigations, committees and impeachment hearings, all day, every day, for however long she sits at 1600.

Do we really want to subject the entire country to that? 3 or 4 more years of completely paralyzed government?

Can the country AFFORD that?

Todays_Illusion

(1,209 posts)
17. I agree that with California vote looming and the convention right after, it has
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:45 PM
May 2016

become necessary to wash Hillary's hands and face from this story and get her the nomination and blessing of the Sanders voters. It isn't going to work for me. I don't care about the email thing at all except as another reflection of Hillary's Nixon like paranoia.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. The Oligarchy runs our government and they are not about to let Sanders and the 99%
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:46 PM
May 2016

win the presidency. The Oligarchy wants their close friend Hillary to win and are using Trump to bludgeon us into voting for her.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
22. All I know is when I heard it was a Report by the State Dept I knew there had to be some angle
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:54 PM
May 2016

that was in Clinton's favor. A leopard does not change its spots. The State Dept has continuously had her back.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
28. With friends like this, who needs enemies....
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:07 PM
May 2016

I think this is the good news for Hillary and the bad news will be along shortly.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
34. No shade on Kerry. It's not improper for State to release its report before the FBI recommendation.
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:31 PM
May 2016

It is also not improper for the State Department report to assess its own conduct in a way that might be less critical than an independent criminal investigation. Keep in mind that the State Department (not Hillary) is the defendant in much of the FOIA civil litigation. The State Department has a direct interest in this issue.

The content of the State Department report should be understood in this ongoing FOIA litigation context.

The timing of the State Department report is a different matter, and it is the timing that is especially noteworthy.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
32. Just heard this report was leaked.....
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:21 PM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 25, 2016, 02:59 PM - Edit history (1)

Not supposed to come out today....

Edit: I guess not that big a deal, was supposed to be released tomorrow. Thought maybe it was due out in a few weeks.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
66. You can see the press conference today with the State Department rep on youtube (C-Span).
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:41 AM
May 2016

It's pretty interesting.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
33. 'Limited hangout"
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:28 PM
May 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

PRESIDENT: You think, you think we want to, want to go this route now? And the--let it hang out, so to speak?

DEAN: Well, it's, it isn't really that--
HALDEMAN: It's a limited hang out.
DEAN: It's a limited hang out.
EHRLICHMAN: It's a modified limited hang out.
PRESIDENT: Well, it's only the questions of the thing hanging out publicly or privately.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
44. I think that Obama can't stand Hillary.
Wed May 25, 2016, 09:52 PM
May 2016

She was horrible to him in their primary, she went behind his back to include Blumenthal
in her shenanigans, she avoided having an IG while she was SoS, and when Obama
appointed one she refused to cooperate, even though four other past SoS's did.
Nah, I really don't think Obama likes HRC.

JudyM

(29,036 posts)
51. Plus it makes him look a bit of a fool that a member of his cabinet was using her own server for
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:03 PM
May 2016

years and he didn't notice the address nor did any of his staff notice or tell him... Reflects poorly on his control and leadership. And now with what's been coming out about her arms sales and other deals with Clinton Foundation donors... It all reflects poorly on him.

I'm willing to bet there's been some yelling with Michelle behind closed doors. At least Michelle would've been yelling.

CincyDem

(6,205 posts)
64. Not buying it.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:04 PM
May 2016

Sorry.

Most email programs don't actually show the email address when you type in a name that's in your contact list (and I assume that the SoS is in POTUS' contact list). You get their name...that's it.

So the fact that someone interacting with HRC via email didn't see her personal domain vs. a "state.gov" address shouldn't be surprising. Has nothing to do with his control or leadership. It's just where the technology is today.

JudyM

(29,036 posts)
71. You have a point there. However, interesting on AC360 late last night they brought up that same
Thu May 26, 2016, 09:08 AM
May 2016

issue.

I do still think it reflects poorly on Obama that she was so rogue with the rules, as much as I don't like that.

CincyDem

(6,205 posts)
72. Not an AC360 viewer and...
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:59 AM
May 2016

...I did see an interesting article somewhere this morning referencing the 2006 incident where the WH "lost" over 5 million emails related to the AG's (Gonzales) firing of some number (8-10???) District Attorneys. The key point of the article is that the revelation came on a Wednesday, when the WH informed Congress of their inability to respond to a request because the emails were "no longer available through no fault of any specific individual or individuals". By Sunday, the topic was not even covered by any of the Sunday shows.

My point in connecting these two is that somehow, we as Democrats seem to expect more from our Presidents and, as a result, they lose favor quicker. Nobody was surprised that W and his crowd erased 5 million or more from the WH server emails so it wasn't news. But we let the right wing whip us up into a frenzy about the topic of their choice and we seem to never learn the lesson that their game is all about divide and conquer. As long as we're in the HRC vs. Bernie game...they can do/say whatever the heck they want and along the way, further consolidate their disastrous control over the state houses, state legislatures, and congress.

Does HRCs use of a private server reflect badly on either her or BHO ? Sure - among those that expect perfection in every aspect of the role. By year 6 of W's term, most of us didn't think he could drop a hammer and hit the ground so what's the issue with a few/five million emails. I'm still with Bernie on this topic from one of the early debates..."Enough with the damn emails!".

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
53. I'm at the point where I can only imagine that classified info was passed...
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:11 PM
May 2016

..to foreign governments via Hillary's server and there is proof of this.

It must be that bad for this to be the good news.

My God.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
59. The Chinese absolutely got everything....
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:32 PM
May 2016

I'll repost what I've said about this:

The Chinese absolutely no doubt in my mind read everything she did in real time. Here's the scenario.

About 1 month into her SOS service she travels to China.

Her server lacks encryption at this time. Anyone watching her traffic could see everything she sent and received (probably her password as well).

She used her unsecure blackberry while traveling in China.

Do you think the Chinese monitor phone traffic? Do you think they saw everything? Do you think they noticed her server? Do you think they have competent hackers? They didn't even need a server that lacked encryption, I'm sure they had no trouble getting into a Microsoft server that was poorly setup.

Bottom line, Chinese read everything she did the entire time she was SOS guaranteed.

Lars39

(26,082 posts)
68. Short of her handing out her password like crackerjack prizes
Thu May 26, 2016, 02:43 AM
May 2016

she could not have made it easier for them.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
55. Buckle Up Indeed
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:23 PM
May 2016

If this is the "good" report (and I agree with your reasoning) things may go from bad to worse very quickly. However, I will be surprised if she is indicted. After all, President Obama and our Justice Dept. let torturers get away with their crimes.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
62. I just read this and wondered why they bothered -- it was kind of meaningless
Wed May 25, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016

except for the last paragraph which totally cleared her of everything. That was senseless since they could not cover anything truly important.

The State Department could not look at or comment on anything classified. The FBI instructed the State Department on that. So the meat of the investigation was not available, and the only thing the State Department could consume was small potatoes.

On another note when people kept pointing out the similarity between what Hillary did and Colin Powell, the distinction drawn by those who commented was that Powell did not have his own server. So yes he did send emails from a personal account, but we do not know on what server the email was located.

Just when one thinks they have seen just about everything, there is this:

On still another note, I saw an article which said the Socilitor General reported 6 billion dollars has been lost relating to State Department contracts:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/4/state-dept-misplaced-6b-under-hillary-clinton-ig-r/?page=all

The State Department misplaced and lost some $6 billion due to the improper filing of contracts during the past six years, mainly during the tenure of former Secretary of State Hilary Clinton, according to a newly released Inspector General report.

The $6 billion in unaccounted funds poses a “significant financial risk and demonstrates a lack of internal control over the Department’s contract actions,” according to the report.

The alert, originally sent on March 20 and just released this week, warns that the missing contracting funds “could expose the department to substantial financial losses.”

The report centered on State Department contracts worth “more than $6 billion in which contract files were incomplete or could not be located at all,” according to the alert.


What more can one say?

Sam

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Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
69. which is the real reason for the push for Sanders to drop out
Thu May 26, 2016, 06:46 AM
May 2016

with him gone, they can pick a replacement

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