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AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:30 AM May 2016

Clinton Broke Federal Rules With Email Server, Audit Finds

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton violated federal records rules through her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state, a State Department audit has concluded.

"At a minimum, Secretary Clinton should have surrendered all emails dealing with Department issues before leaving government service," says an audit by the State Department Inspector General, obtained by NBC News.

"Because she did not do so, she did not comply with the [State] Department's policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."

...

But the findings on Clinton are sure to reverberate through the 2016 presidential campaign. The State Department's auditors challenge some of the fundamental assertions Clinton has been making about why her use of personal email for government business was not improper.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/clinton-broke-federal-rules-email-server-audit-finds-n580131

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BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
3. The other part means nothing. No one violated the rules like Hillary did. No one.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:35 AM
May 2016

The "but other people did it too" argument is both childish and wrong. No one else had a private server. No one else refused to cooperate with the State Department Inspector General. Just Hillary.

inchhigh

(384 posts)
4. Maybe they all did it, but she did it A LOT.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:37 AM
May 2016

Rice's name appears in the report 13 times.

Kerry 14 times.

Powell 17 times.


Clinton 125 times.

procon

(15,805 posts)
12. That's the logical progression of technology,
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

and it shouldn't be at all unusual that the the former SoS relied more on digital communication than her predecessors. Certainly the use and dependence on emails and other forms of digital communications has increased significantly through each administration, and will continue to grow exponentially in the future.

The government as a whole is completely unprepared to handle the complex IT system it needs. There is no cabinet level IT office, not even an IT czar or chief, and all the while the digital world is exploding as users demand more and more.

procon

(15,805 posts)
14. Minor detail: Kerry came after the rules were changed.
Wed May 25, 2016, 01:27 PM
May 2016

There probably a reasonable argument to be made that she pushed the envelope at the time, and if you're going to try an hold up Kerry by comparison, then keep in mind that there was not an explicit, categorical prohibition against federal employees using personal emails when Clinton was in office. It wasn't until there was a major overhaul to the rules in 2014 -- which postdates Hillary's time at the State Department -- that explicit limits were placed on agency officials using private email accounts for official business. It was only after she left the State Department, that the National Archives issued a recommendation that government employees should avoid conducting official business on personal emails.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
11. the missing part, summed up:
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:52 AM
May 2016

SO, no formal, consistent, modern protocol in place when Hillary was SoS, and making up the rule as they go along, creating new and applicable rules after Hillary leaves her post as SoS, and an verbal indictment of email habits in hindsight. Got it.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
5. The article goes on to say
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:38 AM
May 2016

"The audit found that the non-compliance over personal email went beyond Clinton, and that former Secretary of State Colin Powell, a Republican, also failed to preserve government-related emails when he was secretary of state.

The State Department asked Powell to try to receive relevant emails from his internet provider, but "as of May 2016 the Department has not received a response" from Powell, the audit said."

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
6. Powell isn't running for president
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

"Someone else did it too" is a pisspoor defence. It's called the "Two wrongs make a right" fallacy.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
8. Sprare me the binary thinking. If I wanted that I'd listen to O'Reilly.
Wed May 25, 2016, 11:44 AM
May 2016

Powell is well respected on both sides of the aisle. He did it and hasn't even bother to reply to a request from State. I imagine he was more interested in carrying out his job. Hillary likewise.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
15. I'm waiting to hear about the LAWS she broke and the CONSEQUENCES for that.
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:19 PM
May 2016

So far this one seems like weak sauce.

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