2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumEd Shultz, Nina Turner ...no violence in NV
https://www.facebook.com/RTAmerica/videos/10153513128556366/griffi94
(3,733 posts)That was ugly.
Who knows what all they got up to.
Thrown chairs. Threats of violence.
Shouting down the speaker.
That's no way to act.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)They've started an investigation probably lol.
Just kidding.
Not being overly paranoid or a conspiracy theory person.
I believe most of what the news reports.
I don't believe that a chair was actually thrown.
I do believe that Bernies supporters were there to shout down the convention
and I believe the hateful texts and threats happened because
i saw those screenshots.
I heard Bernies response and all I heard was him deflect and then rationalize.
So there you go.
It's at least as reality based as a lot of the conspiracy theories bandied about by
the more hardcore Sanders supporters.
And in any case it's good enough for me and if the media is any indication at all lots of other people who found the whole episode unacceptable.
I did see a new hashtag
#donewithbernie.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)must be the star at the Nevada office.
(On a serious note, yes a police report was indeed filed and there is an investigation. But like many of these cases, we will not know until that is over and they release the data. Many a times what seems to be the case, is not in the end)
griffi94
(3,733 posts)I don't hold Bernie resposible for the actions of individuals.
But his statement was tepid at best.
And iif the people involved were his delegates then the represent him.
Death threats and doxing.
That's over the line.
No matter how righteous you think your cause is..
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)sheshe2
(84,101 posts)ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,595 posts)Thanks for the thread, bkkyosemite.
sheshe2
(84,101 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,595 posts)of anyone throwing a chair, a punch or even a slap.
The only person to get arrested for violence was a Hillary supporter that was accused of assaulting a couple of Bernie supporters.
The people were angry because they were getting screwed by Roberta's steamrolling over the democratic process and the bullshit violence meme was just used to distract from the unfair, unjust, undemocratic and unDemocratic process that was run by Lange while making Hillary and her supporters out to be victims during the eleventh hour, just before Kentucky and Oregon voted.
The vast majority of corporate media conglomerates with a very few exceptions were more than happy to pick up the slanders against Bernie's supporters and run with them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512008172
http://www.npr.org/sections/ombudsman/2016/05/18/478579787/fact-checking-nprs-reports-on-vegas-violence
Bernie has condemned all forms of violence whether it be physical or threats of violence from day one, Schultz's conflict of interest corrupted DNC have ignored Bernie's pronouncements because he didn't wear sack cloth and ashes for a fictitious violence hoax but did cite the unjust irregularities that took place in the Nevada Convention something the corporate established powers that be in the Democratic Party wanted to ignore.
sheshe2
(84,101 posts)You do not call them B***h or C**t. That is not acceptable. Verbal abuse is every bit as ugly as physical abuse. VAWA.
How about the phone calls...death threats that the FBI is investigating? You are okay with those too? Langes office called some of them back. They were indeed BS supporters.
No rules were broken, hell she won in FEBUARY!
No. Sorry, Bernies statement was more bull, he just doubled down.
Uncle Joe
(58,595 posts)I never heard Schultz or anyone else calling out Hillary to condemn her supporter.
There is no excuse for phone call threats, and they should be prosecuted whether they were Bernie supporters or someone else using a false flag.
As I stated and I have no doubt you understand Bernie has condemned all forms of violence physical or verbal.
Nevada has three stages to their caucus, I believe that's screwy but that's the way it is, Bernie won the second stage because so many Hillary delegates didn't show up.
Bernie had more delegates to the third stage as well but 64 were purged 50+ of them without a hearing which then Hillary gave thirty more than Bernie. The chair of the Nevada Convention ramrodded her own proposal through to disregard the second stage and didn't allow a vote on it, this was only one of her transgressions.
The people were rightfully angry.
sheshe2
(84,101 posts)YOU DO NOT DO THAT.
Hey Uncle Joe. I assume you are a man.
You just told me...
Have you lived it? If you haven't then you have no right to tell a woman what is worse. Both are equally debilitating. One shows the scars from the outside the other are hidden and you can't see them. Both leave tremendous scars on our souls. So please do NOT tell me what hurts me more. Been there and done it!
Uncle Joe
(58,595 posts)Girl, 4, Beaten to Death By Mom and Boyfriend For Drinking Brother's Juice: Cops
http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/15612-girl-4-beaten-to-death-by-mom-and-boyfriend-for-drinking-brothers-juice-cops
UW student, 22, beaten in her apartment dies; boyfriend held on $1M bail
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/woman-beaten-in-u-district-apartment-dies-from-injuries/
Amsterdam woman identified after reportedly beat to death by boyfriend
http://news10.com/2016/03/30/police-seek-schenectady-man-suspected-of-severely-beating-girlfriend/
Argument Leaves Woman Beaten to Death With Hammer
A woman died from her injuries after she was beaten to death with a hammer during an argument with her boyfriend in North Philadelphia Sunday, according to investigators.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/North-Philadelphia-Deadly-Shooting--371212771.html
Court Report: Woman beaten to death by boyfriend over $40.00
http://www.cbs46.com/story/15687139/court-report-woman-beaten-to-death-by-boyfriend-over-4000
UPDATE: Boyfriend of Irondale mother killed charged with murder, has bond revoked
http://wiat.com/2016/04/22/irondale-woman-beaten-to-death-while-children-are-at-home/
Police: 4-year-old tortured, beaten to death after mother shoots up heroin
http://fox8.com/2016/04/01/police-4-year-old-tortured-beaten-to-death-after-mother-shoots-up-heroin/
Sunrise woman admits to beating man to death, police say
http://www.local10.com/news/sunrise-woman-admits-to-beating-man-to-death-police-say-
Or should I just ignore common sense and logic because I'm only a man?
sheshe2
(84,101 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,595 posts)make my point that I didn't take verbal abuse lightly, then you turned it into a gender attack.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Why, that would be unheard of!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)you might enjoy this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512010334