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I'm really worried that Sanders supporters will bring violence to the Philly conventions (Original Post) hill2016 May 2016 OP
yes, Hillary might need the threat of force and violence TheSarcastinator May 2016 #1
#BernieMath in action SFnomad May 2016 #3
keep laughing, by all means TheSarcastinator May 2016 #12
Secretary Clinton will probably have enough to clinch once NJ reports SFnomad May 2016 #15
NJ will clinch with supers, CA will clinch with pledged. joshcryer May 2016 #20
Lol, we hear this every tuesday! Nt Logical May 2016 #46
It has been known for quite some time that Secretary Clinton would clinch it on June 7th n/t SFnomad May 2016 #47
Bullshit, first it was Super Tuesday, etc. nt Logical May 2016 #49
We'vel all known that Secretary Clinton was going to be the winner since Super Tuesday SFnomad May 2016 #105
My fantasy world at this point is for Hillary to maybe be a little liberal. Maybe Bernie staying.... Logical May 2016 #107
at one time their narrative was he will only win Vermont timmymoff May 2016 #109
No doubt you really need to pretend as much... LanternWaste May 2016 #67
My stalker who has not written an OP ever! Missed you! Nt Logical May 2016 #70
Hubris appears to work as well as petulant and irrelevant responses. LanternWaste May 2016 #66
The only violence so far has been from Hillary's side. NWCorona May 2016 #2
Operation Chaos redux... timlot May 2016 #4
Bernie won the closed Democratic Primary in my State last night by over 9 points, sport. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #45
Brock will handle it. No need to worry. He will stir the shit needed to make it happen. floriduck May 2016 #5
They're dreaming of a repeat of 1968 baldguy May 2016 #6
Don't cheat and it won't happen AgingAmerican May 2016 #9
And when Sanders loses, it's *ALWAYS* & *ONLY* because of "cheating"? baldguy May 2016 #17
You have to admit that the regularity of the irregularities is Ed Suspicious May 2016 #38
The thing is LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #50
And Bernie's only hope to win is if space aliens from Zeta Retuculi abduct Clinton & take her away. baldguy May 2016 #59
I'm perfectly content with waiting for the FBI to hand down their recommendation.. frylock May 2016 #84
They watch Sanders' mild speeches with vicious glee. joshcryer May 2016 #29
Sure ya are AgingAmerican May 2016 #7
Clinton delegates should stay home for their safety. HooptieWagon May 2016 #8
One thing about Dems, we don't like being bullied Iliyah May 2016 #16
We know you are more apt to make a deal with those opposed to you timmymoff May 2016 #37
As a sensible centrist I share your concern. Warren Stupidity May 2016 #10
America, fuck yeah Go Vols May 2016 #52
LOL. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #96
Yes! It's best to preemptively arrest anyone who steps outside the narrative RufusTFirefly May 2016 #102
Bring out the fainting couches! STAT!!!11!! farleftlib May 2016 #11
they might pick up a chair and put it back down again! TheSarcastinator May 2016 #13
And HUG!!!! farleftlib May 2016 #14
Philly don't play. auntpurl May 2016 #18
How many "Sanders supporters" who indulged in violence and death threats.. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2016 #19
There was only one delegate arrested in Nevada. And it was a Clinton delegate. (nt) w4rma May 2016 #54
Seriously, the media needs the threat of violence to get people to pay any attention! peace13 May 2016 #21
All that "chair" throwing really got to you, yeah? TCJ70 May 2016 #22
I'm sure the Democratic Party will have plenty of Brown Shirts there for "your safety". NorthCarolina May 2016 #23
Even my college-age family members are buying into the insane propaganda Dem2 May 2016 #24
"pieces of human garbage"???? TheSarcastinator May 2016 #27
I'm not fond of libertarian wingnuts pretending to be "progressives" and brainwashing students Dem2 May 2016 #30
good for you, "concerned" citizen TheSarcastinator May 2016 #56
Cool story bro! Nt Logical May 2016 #44
I deal with it daily Dem2 May 2016 #68
You poor thing. frylock May 2016 #92
Anarchism, pro-gun, nihilist, militant anti-government Dem2 May 2016 #97
There there. frylock May 2016 #98
I know, I know Dem2 May 2016 #100
Not with Hillary Supporter. frylock May 2016 #101
Oh, is that what I am Dem2 May 2016 #106
"Correcting the record" is hard work. lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #95
Perhaps Hillary should hire Wendell Pierce as a bodyguard? TheSarcastinator May 2016 #25
I hear Erik Prince has a company that could use some business maybe Hillary' surrogate Brock azurnoir May 2016 #26
Erik Prince is no long involved with Blackwater..XE..Academi. They fired him. FSogol May 2016 #71
aww has someone got a sad? azurnoir May 2016 #73
No, somebody has their facts 10 years out of date. FSogol May 2016 #74
maybe Brock can get out of mothballs just for this occasion azurnoir May 2016 #76
No idea what that's supposed to mean. FSogol May 2016 #77
I should have said maybe Brock can get him out of mothballs for the occasion azurnoir May 2016 #80
If you can't handle Bernie supporters how the hell you going to handle Trump and the GOP? Armstead May 2016 #28
I expect there will cops out the wazoo there from the way the race is going. bemildred May 2016 #31
Sorry to interupt your coronation timmymoff May 2016 #39
we surrendered those to the Saudis reddread May 2016 #48
Boy, this little sub-thread is priceless. nt bemildred May 2016 #108
the lesson wasnt reddread May 2016 #111
Made up slime that hilly fans are spreading cali May 2016 #32
Exactly. n/t Herman4747 May 2016 #34
I'd call it seeds they think they are sowing. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #41
Here is the thing. NCTraveler May 2016 #33
1968 democratic convention had extreme security but that beachbumbob May 2016 #35
I see Hillary supporters constantly say that, it's like they are trying to create such crap. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #36
What's harmful is not strongly (or even mildly) condemning violent disrupting tactics procon May 2016 #69
Please oh please My Good Babushka May 2016 #40
Sanders tepid response to the caustic actions of his followers procon May 2016 #42
FFS, dramatic much? Just another slam about bernie supporters. Nt Logical May 2016 #43
Hell Sanders pretty much guaranteed that is what will happen in Philly workinclasszero May 2016 #51
Your 'concern' is duly noted. fleur-de-lisa May 2016 #53
looks like the propaganda worked on you then Viva_La_Revolution May 2016 #55
All the delegates should be afforded security. The far Left has a terrorist element as does the Trust Buster May 2016 #57
As does the center Bluenorthwest May 2016 #60
Not really. The farther out from the center, the more radical by definition. Trust Buster May 2016 #65
I'm really worried about the eventual heat-death of the universe, myself. Scootaloo May 2016 #58
Don't worry yet. John Poet May 2016 #61
Just keep spreading the innuendo that Sanders supporters were violent at the Nevada bjo59 May 2016 #62
I may be a delegate and so I hope that you are correct about security Gothmog May 2016 #63
Have you seen the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia? procon May 2016 #72
Ahem.....Philly just did the Papal Visit. Expect the same. nt msanthrope May 2016 #110
Show Your True Colors pmorlan1 May 2016 #64
I love this "meme du jour." Vinca May 2016 #75
Correct That Record! LadyHawkAZ May 2016 #78
same here.. chillfactor May 2016 #79
Listen, people just want to be treated right. They just want to be heard. They wanted to be part highprincipleswork May 2016 #81
People claiming to be Sanders supporters. PeteSelman May 2016 #82
Ooooooooh ... polly7 May 2016 #83
I'm worried another Hillary supporter will be violent and arrested for punching a woman in the face! ViseGrip May 2016 #85
PS. I fully expect DWS to have the protesters 'caged' like GWB! Just watch. ViseGrip May 2016 #86
... HumanityExperiment May 2016 #87
Maybe get back under your bed where it's warm and safe. frylock May 2016 #88
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #89
I thought Hillary supporters are into violence. See Iraq, Libya, et al. Broward May 2016 #90
I have no doubt that the "democratic" party will actively profile all Sanders supporters lumberjack_jeff May 2016 #91
You're amusing, Hill2016. Blue_In_AK May 2016 #93
No election fraud = no pissed off caucus goers AgingAmerican May 2016 #94
I am really worried about people being swayed by the lies about violence being promoted. nt Todays_Illusion May 2016 #99
No you aren't. phleshdef May 2016 #103
Oh the Hyperbole! And irony ... KPN May 2016 #104
 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
15. Secretary Clinton will probably have enough to clinch once NJ reports
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016

If NJ doesn't clinch it for Secretary Clinton ... California will.

Believing anything else is #BernieMath that has no basis in reality. You'll notice that Superdelegates are abandoning BS and changing to Secretary Clinton ... don't you?

joshcryer

(62,259 posts)
20. NJ will clinch with supers, CA will clinch with pledged.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:18 AM
May 2016

The networks will call it when NJ closes. Just like they did with Obama when he had the majority of delegates (supers included). CA will be a footnote.

 

SFnomad

(3,473 posts)
105. We'vel all known that Secretary Clinton was going to be the winner since Super Tuesday
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:36 PM
May 2016

but being that all the Democratic Primaries are proportional delegation ... it would be difficult to clinch it early. And NOBODY said she would clinch it by Super Tuesday ... it would have been MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, being that not enough delegates would have been awarded. But go ahead and live in whatever fantasy world you want to, it's easier that way for you.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
107. My fantasy world at this point is for Hillary to maybe be a little liberal. Maybe Bernie staying....
Wed May 18, 2016, 08:07 PM
May 2016

in can help that.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
67. No doubt you really need to pretend as much...
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

No doubt you really need to pretend as much... nt

(All words were two syllables or less, so I figured you've got this one)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
66. Hubris appears to work as well as petulant and irrelevant responses.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:07 AM
May 2016

Hubris appears to work as well as petulant and irrelevant responses regarding hubris.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
4. Operation Chaos redux...
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

Wouldn't be surprised if many of those Sanders protesters are closet Trump supporters who are just stirring trouble.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
45. Bernie won the closed Democratic Primary in my State last night by over 9 points, sport.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

Your verbiage is not acceptable as characterization of the majority of Oregonian Democrats.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
6. They're dreaming of a repeat of 1968
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016

Not realizing or caring that those violent protests directly resulted in Nixon, Reagan, Bush I & Bush II.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
38. You have to admit that the regularity of the irregularities is
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

pretty astonishing.

Coincidence I'm sure. That they always favor Clinton . . . Coincidence I'm sure.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
50. The thing is
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

They don't always favor Clinton. The bigger danger is to assume that its fellow Democrats who are doing this and let Republicans continue to depress the vote.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
59. And Bernie's only hope to win is if space aliens from Zeta Retuculi abduct Clinton & take her away.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:01 AM
May 2016

It could happen.

joshcryer

(62,259 posts)
29. They watch Sanders' mild speeches with vicious glee.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:25 AM
May 2016

Not realizing that he's not saying anything controversial or damning (and when he has done that, like calling Clinton unqualified, he walked it back as I predicted).

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. Clinton delegates should stay home for their safety.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:11 AM
May 2016

Those evil nasty BernieBros will be like bikers on meth. Not worth the physical risk...stay home.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
16. One thing about Dems, we don't like being bullied
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:16 AM
May 2016

expect them to show up including the ones who have flipped from BS to HRC and will continue to do so.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
37. We know you are more apt to make a deal with those opposed to you
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

we started to notice that awhile ago, but then Hillary sought out the Bush, Rubio, and Cruz donors and confirmed it for us. She can't be trusted. She told us of her unwiligness to fight for minimum wage increases, and her unwillingness to fight for single payer. We know she and you guys have little fight in you. But hey, it's her turn.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
10. As a sensible centrist I share your concern.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:12 AM
May 2016

Hopefully a massive militarized police presence and strictly controlled free speech zones far from the convention will reduce any assembly of citizens to a minor distraction that the media can entirely ignore.

Yet another reason why I am a sensible centrist for Clinton.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
102. Yes! It's best to preemptively arrest anyone who steps outside the narrative
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:25 PM
May 2016

After all, they've already thrown dozens of chairs. There's no telling what they'll do next!

As loyal Americans and Democrats, we simply can't afford to find out!

Hillary!
Trust us. She's for your own good!

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
19. How many "Sanders supporters" who indulged in violence and death threats..
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:18 AM
May 2016

have been arrested and are now in jail awaiting trial.

The jails must be packed.

 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
21. Seriously, the media needs the threat of violence to get people to pay any attention!
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

They are seeding the idea. I have been to many demonstrations and the source of the unrest comes from outsiders and undercover folks. The majority do not want this.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
22. All that "chair" throwing really got to you, yeah?
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:20 AM
May 2016

Where is that video, by the way?

In case it wasn't clear, there was no violence.

Dem2

(8,164 posts)
24. Even my college-age family members are buying into the insane propaganda
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

posted on Facebook, Twitter, tumblr etc.

These pieces of human garbage are lying to my family members and I have to spend an inordinate amount of time straightening them out, which is easy in terms of argument, difficult in terms of undoing the brainwashing of the libertarian wingnuts pretending to be liberals. If there is violence, the wingnut libertarians are the one's promoting it. Sadly, people under 30 are susceptible to this propaganda.

Dem2

(8,164 posts)
30. I'm not fond of libertarian wingnuts pretending to be "progressives" and brainwashing students
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

Are you in favor of having wingnut libertarians infiltrating the Democratic party? I'm not. And I despise the lying too - enough propaganda!

Dem2

(8,164 posts)
97. Anarchism, pro-gun, nihilist, militant anti-government
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:08 PM
May 2016

...and Bernie or Bust - how did it come to this mixture of right-wing anarchist nihilism and Bernie or Bust? This from a feminist who is extremely liberal.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
95. "Correcting the record" is hard work.
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

Especially when one must generate plausible sounding falsehoods to do it.

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
25. Perhaps Hillary should hire Wendell Pierce as a bodyguard?
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

I hear he has a mean right hook, especially when punching female Bernie supporters. He'd be perfect for the job.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
26. I hear Erik Prince has a company that could use some business maybe Hillary' surrogate Brock
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:23 AM
May 2016

has some pull with him, as does Hillary's adopted BIL

FSogol

(45,259 posts)
71. Erik Prince is no long involved with Blackwater..XE..Academi. They fired him.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:31 AM
May 2016

He currently works for a private equity firm in Dubai. BTW, he donates equally to the Republican Party and the Green Party. Wonder why?

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
28. If you can't handle Bernie supporters how the hell you going to handle Trump and the GOP?
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:24 AM
May 2016

Bernie and his supporters will seem like Pink Fluffy Bunnies in retrospect once the General gets going.

I don't know how your delicate constitution will be able to handle that.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
31. I expect there will cops out the wazoo there from the way the race is going.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:27 AM
May 2016

Should look great in the national press. I am sure also the Mr. Trump will not hesitiate to make use of it.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
39. Sorry to interupt your coronation
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:37 AM
May 2016

No, not really, you should be enjoying the rights of assembly and speech. Unless you really think we should be "brought to heel"

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
41. I'd call it seeds they think they are sowing.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

It is their devout hope to see such things. They are not going to get their wish.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
33. Here is the thing.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:29 AM
May 2016

There is little concern inside the convention.

Who are they going to fight outside, Trump supporters? Not a chance. They will both be protesting the same thing.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
35. 1968 democratic convention had extreme security but that
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

Doesn't stop zealots who want disrupt and have media coverage....sanders hardcore supporters are of the same mindset as those who bring riots to WTO meetings...they care about little else but their own twisted agenda...

Sanders has no control and exhibits no real leadership and runs away from responsibility....he is a fraud

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
36. I see Hillary supporters constantly say that, it's like they are trying to create such crap.
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:34 AM
May 2016

All the endless aggressive, goading posts have one single objective, to cause division and unrest in the Party.

This week a rich, famous Hillary supporting man got arrested for assaulting a woman. So who is actually being violent, getting arrested and running about suggesting there will be more of the same in Philly? Hillary supporters, that's who.
I think what you are doing is repulsive and harmful to the Party.

procon

(15,805 posts)
69. What's harmful is not strongly (or even mildly) condemning violent disrupting tactics
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:22 AM
May 2016

You're trying to combine one man who acted stupidly on his own volition, with the behavior of Sanders official convention delegates... no dice. You're complaining because your man was out maneuvered and out played by the better candidate, deal with it.

It was always Bernie's race to win or loose on his own merits. If he's not performing as advertised, don't blame Hillary's success for his shortcomings. Stop whining that you're being picked on for betting on the wrong horse, and go pound on the guy who failed to live up to your expectations.

procon

(15,805 posts)
42. Sanders tepid response to the caustic actions of his followers
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:40 AM
May 2016

was like an open invitation to bring that violent behavior to the convention floor. Sanders campaign has stalled in 2nd place limbo, and he's becoming increasingly bitter and vindictive. His angry shock troops have nothing to lose by creating chaos and disrupting the nominating proceedings. They've certainly had plenty of practice interrupting Trump's speeches and intimidating Hillary's fans, like the crowds who were waiting in line to see her at that college in LA.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
51. Hell Sanders pretty much guaranteed that is what will happen in Philly
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

His mouthpiece was pumping up and enraging the drunken mob in Nevada.

Do you really think they will let the democratic convention in Philly escape their little "revolution" with all the media coverage there?

Democrats have got to realize NOW that Sanders is not running against Trump and the republicans...he is running against the democratic party!

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
57. All the delegates should be afforded security. The far Left has a terrorist element as does the
Wed May 18, 2016, 10:55 AM
May 2016

far Right.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
62. Just keep spreading the innuendo that Sanders supporters were violent at the Nevada
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

convention. Have you watched the hours and hours of video documentation of that convention? Did you see violence occur? Do you know who made a death threat? If you do, could you provide the evidence of who that person was? This is an extreme hardball strategy I see being played out by the Hillary Clinton campaign right now. I have family members who were going to vote for Clinton in California until they saw the news reports featuring Roberta Gustav Lange. They are totally disgusted as am I.

procon

(15,805 posts)
72. Have you seen the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia?
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:33 AM
May 2016

Its huge! The convention venue is a big sports arena that seats over 20K, so security police couldn't possibly cover every nook and cranny. Sanders has already said he going there to fight, and his troops will carry out his wishes. Stay safe if you go, or at least have a fast exit plan if civil order breaks down.

pmorlan1

(2,096 posts)
64. Show Your True Colors
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:05 AM
May 2016

I bet some of the Hillary supporters who are reading this thread are beginning to wonder just what kind of a campaign they've been supporting. Bernie supporters tried to tell them but of course they didn't believe us because we are in the opposition camp. But I bet once they view some of the Hillary posts in this thread they will start to wonder if maybe we were right.

Vinca

(50,059 posts)
75. I love this "meme du jour."
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:36 AM
May 2016

Suddenly it's assumed that I, a 67 year old female Bernie supporter, am arming myself to the teeth and heading off to Philly to make a point. Get a grip people. The media is pimping this story and every time it's retold the facts become more overblown.

chillfactor

(7,555 posts)
79. same here..
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

after the Nevada convention bernie supporters are really out of control.....we do not need another Chicago convention.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
81. Listen, people just want to be treated right. They just want to be heard. They wanted to be part
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

of the Democratic Party.

Is that too much to ask?

How about trying to include those who'd like to be part of your political party rather than changing your primary tactics and trying to attract Republicans for fuck's sake!!!!!

That would, it seems to me, be the smart move. But I haven't been able to count on the Democratic Party to be smart since at least the days of Ronald Reagan, who apparently frightened them so much they keep wetting their bed.

Oh, and firing Debbie Wasserman Schultz would be a great strategic move. I know it would keep her from finishing her plans decorating Hillary's float, but that wasn't what holding a national political convention was supposed to be about anyway.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
82. People claiming to be Sanders supporters.
Wed May 18, 2016, 11:45 AM
May 2016

No true Bernie guy is bringing any violence anywhere. Paid disrupters may though.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
85. I'm worried another Hillary supporter will be violent and arrested for punching a woman in the face!
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:47 PM
May 2016
 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
87. ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:48 PM
May 2016

HRC supporters are trying to make it so 'airtight' that folks will be passing out due to lack of oxygen...

Response to hill2016 (Original post)

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
91. I have no doubt that the "democratic" party will actively profile all Sanders supporters
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:51 PM
May 2016

to restrict their participation.

The free speech zone will be in Ohio, somewhere.

Boy, I'm sure glad I'm not a Republican! Terra! Al-Qaeda! ISIS! Sanders supporters!

"Security detail to sector three! A Washington delegate just touched a chair!"

KPN

(15,522 posts)
104. Oh the Hyperbole! And irony ...
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:33 PM
May 2016

can't believe you folks are actually trying to incite violence with this kind of crap.

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