Clinton needs to start running against Trump now.

[sufrommich]

Sanders,with no path to the nomination,is playing the spoiler at this point. She needs to start running like the primary is over,as it is.Trump certainly will be pivoting to the General starting today and so should she.

[jack_krass]

1. Aw. Dont feel bad sunshine. The sting will wear off.

[onehandle]

2. She is and her campaign is being regeared for the GE.

They expanded their operation into an extra floor of their HQ in Brooklyn for that purpose.

[hellofromreddit]

3. "She's been vetted" "Trump has no chance" "Republicans are doomed"

So what's the big deal with letting this primary play out?

[sufrommich]

4. I don't care if the primary plays out.

Clinton needs to ignore the primary and start running against Trump.

[hellofromreddit]

5. Yet you say, "Sanders,with no path to the nomination,is playing the spoiler at this point."

That's a respectably quick flip flop.

[sufrommich]

6. He is. He's going to spend the rest of

his time joining Trump in attacking Clinton and then he's going to lose. That's called a spoiler campaign.

[Sunlei]

71. a "spoiler campaign" would have been if Sen. Sanders ran as independent. He did not & will

back Mrs. Clinton if she wins the nomination. She probably will win but the primary is not over until every state is done and the convention is held.

[notadmblnd]

51. Why? She's got it all in the bag as she's the annointed one, next in line for the throne

Seems to me that she can take a much needed rest.

[Sunlei]

70. disagree, every D in every state deserves their chance to hear from Both and vote in their primary.

Mrs. Clinton and Senator Sanders are NOT republican quitters.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. People keep talking about this magic pivoting that she's somehow not being allowed to do

what specifically do you envision that meaning?

Like, specifically. With specifics.

[sufrommich]

8. Where did I say she's not allowed to?

I said the exact opposite of that.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Okay. "She needs to start pivoting to the general". What does that mean?

Specifically.

[sufrommich]

11. It means stop spending money running in the primary,

start building her General campaign organization and start campaigning in states that matter in the General against the republicans. Start running commercials in swing states. Everything that Trump will be doing starting today.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Well gee whiz, I thought she already had. She hasn't? Why not?

Her supporters have been telling us she's had the nomination wrapped up for weeks. Does this mean her money and strategy people aren't smart enough to do "the math"?

[sufrommich]

14. She does have it wrapped up,it's delusional

to think otherwise.

The Clinton campaign is smart enough to know the same thing I stated in my OP,Clinton needs to start running in the General and running against Trump,not Sanders.

[Warren DeMontague]

16. Who's stopping them? They should have been doing this already, no?

Hey, you mentioned Swing States, you know Colorado is a swing state.

Hmm, maybe Hillary should distance herself a wee bit from the chair of the DNC, who supports putting recreational and medical marijuana users in prison, before she "ramps up" her GE campaign there. And for fuck's sake, don't put DWS front and center on the fundraising mailers.

Just a helpful thought!

But you're right, they clearly know exactly what they're doing. Totally. They got this.

[sufrommich]

20. Voters in the General aren't going to obsess over

Debbie Wasserman Schultz as head of the DNC. That's political navel gazing.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. Colorado is a swing state.

Does she want to win it, or not?

You might not want to second-guess what people in other states think is important.

[sufrommich]

28. So you're telling me DWS is a big issue to most voters? nt

[Warren DeMontague]

31. I'm telling you that states that have legalized recreational marijuana & the ones that are about to

take this issue REAL seriously, thanks.

[sufrommich]

39. No,you stated DWS's positions on issues matter, as if

her positions are considered by voters in the General election,they aren't.

[Warren DeMontague]

44. Why do you suppose she's facing a real primary challenge this year?

She's gone out of her way to alienate not just people who don't think granny should be put in prison for growing glaucoma weed (and there are more than a few of those) but also Millennials (and there are more than a few of those) people who don't like payday lenders, etc.

Under normal circumstances, no, no one would give a shit. You have to work to get this level of dislike on the national level.

She's a fucking train wreck for our brand and our party.

[sufrommich]

50. People aren't going to base their votes on who's

heading the DNC. It's a non issue in the General.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. Like i said, maybe you shouldnt make blanket statements about who cares about what and where.

All those donations for Tim Canova are coming from somewhere.

And you brought up swing states. By definition, those are ones where you want to fight for every vote even harder.

...right?

[sufrommich]

55. Believe what you want to believe,there's no polling information

showing DWS being anything close to a campaign issue.

[Warren DeMontague]

59. Hmmm, well, just a suggestion!

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/news/tim-canova-debbie-wasserman-schultz-challenger-raised-a-half-million-dollars-in-three-months-7695676

[sufrommich]

60. You're pointing to her campaign in Florida as proof that

her position in the DNC is a national issue?

[Warren DeMontague]

62. Yeah, because he raised a half a million dollars in 3 months, for that race.

It was, as Broward County put it, "unprecedented".

[TCJ70]

25. Yeah, wouldn't want them to know who they're really voting for...

...*whew* gotta dodge that bullet. Clinton would be in so much trouble if the general public did a little more of that navel gazing you're talking about...

[Fumesucker]

18. What is stopping Hillary from pivoting to the general?

I don't understand, if you have the primary wrapped up that's what you do...

[sufrommich]

29. God,nothing is stopping her,

that's my point.

[Fumesucker]

37. I've never been convinced she is all that bright

She gets too many things, literally in the original meaning life and death things, badly wrong and takes far too long to realize it.

[hellofromreddit]

52. Her inability to win more states seems to be stopping her.

[sufrommich]

54. She could lose every state going forward and will still

win the nomination,especially if he wins by the percentage he won Indiana with,that's basically a delegate split.

[hellofromreddit]

58. If Bernie is such a hopeless joke, why is Hillary losing state races?

By this point a strong candidate would be casually wiping the floor with anyone left in the race and using the remaining primary votes to build excitement and raise cash. But Hillary isn't, and the theoretical delegate count of the future doesn't affect that.

[hack89]

67. Obama lost 7 of the last 10 states in 2008

and won handily in the GE. Don't you guys ever bother to study history?

[TCJ70]

10. Oh, come on...

...don't ask them for specifics. That means they'd have to analyze their support for Hillary.

I was listening to Norman Goldman on the radio (a Bernie supporter although he will vote for Clinton in the fall) and he had a Hillary supporter call in and ask for his reasons why he likes Sanders. Norman goes into this explanation that he appreciates the social policy stances of Sanders, that he thinks they reflect the FDR-ish history of the Democratic party and that we need to get back to that. He then asks the caller why they support Hillary. The callers answer was three-fold: she's been attacked for so long, she's tough, and has had high positions in government. Not one mention of policy at all.

They accuse Sanders of having a cult of personality around him...I think they need to look in a mirror.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. There are huge concrete edifices that must be fortified! Giant groaning welded steel trusses which

must be lowered into position! Terrible, fearfully huge groaning iron gears which must each be lubricated, and then cranked until they creakingly begin to torque the massive, heaving behemoths which must be slowly re-oriented as a part of the laborious process of preparing the pivo---



ah, who the fuck am I kidding.

[pmorlan1]

15. Pivot?

I thought she already pivoted. Didn't you guys announce this after NY?

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Just because the OP said that Hillary "needs to" do something, it doesn't mean she's not already

doing it!

Come on! These are professionals!

[astrophuss42]

21. Must be behind on email

?

[-none]

64. That pivot?

That's just their normal spin.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. I don't think you understand what a "spoiler" is in an election.

The spoiler effect is the effect of vote splitting between candidates or ballot questions[n 1] with similar ideologies. One spoiler candidate's presence in the election draws votes from a major candidate with similar politics thereby causing a strong opponent of both or several to win. The minor candidate causing this effect is referred to as a spoiler.[n 2] However, short of any electoral fraud, this presents no grounds for a legal challenge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_effect

For example, Nader was a spoiler on the left in the 2000 election. He was running against Gore and Bush, drawing votes primarily from potential Gore supporters. Sanders is not a "spoiler" as the contest he is in is the primary contest for the Democratic nomination and there are only two candidates in that contest. You need at least three contestants to claim that one is a spoiler.

Now if Sanders wins the nomination and Clinton runs as an independent, that would be a spoiler candidacy.

[Warren DeMontague]

24. No, he is having no effect whatsoever--- While simultaneously spoiling.

And he is not preventing her from pivoting to the GE because she has had the nomination wrapped up for a while but she needs to start pivoting now which she has already done because we all know she's the nominee but it's vital that she do it anyway.

[Warren Stupidity]

27. amazingly upset sore winners at camp weathervane continue to astound

[sufrommich]

26. Sanders spending the next months attacking Clinton

with no chance of winning the nomination is playing the spoiler.

[Warren Stupidity]

30. No chance of winning? Then Clinton can just ignore him and attack Trump.

Your position is idiotic. Rethink it.

[sufrommich]

36. "Then Clinton can just ignore him and attack Trump."

That is my position,as I stated in the OP.

[Warren DeMontague]

34. So it's more chance for her to establish her "moderate" "centrist" cred with the electorate, no?

Lookit the loony lefty attacking me! Aren't you glad I'm the sensible centrist?

[Fumesucker]

42. This idea would make a very amusing OP...

I'm chuckling just thinking about it.

[sufrommich]

56. What does that even mean?

And what does it have to do with anything that I've posted?

[Warren DeMontague]

61. It means exactly what it says.

If the electorate is really craving the sensible moderation of pragmatic centrism, as we are assured they are, then every minute Bernie Sanders is out there reminding voters that HE is the "socialist", dad gumbit, then he's doing Hillary a favor.

The minute he's out of the race, the far left end zone of the debate becomes exactly wherever Hillary is standing at that moment.

Understand?

[fun n serious]

22. I agree..

She has moved on and so should we. We need to start hitting Trump from any social media we can and let Sanders primary all he wants.

[Armstead]

32. What's stopping her?

Presumably she can say bad things about Trump at any time. Presumably the same GOTV and otehr organizing used in the primary can continue to be built on for the General. She can keep raising money.

[SidDithers]

33. +1...

The winner of primary was determined by March 15.

Sid

[Warren DeMontague]

35. Then why does she need a DU member to give her this strategy advice now?

[seabeyond]

40. Ha. That was weak.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. No, its a serious question.

If you follow the logical underpinnings of the OP, Hillary shouldnt "need to" do any of this stuff, she should have been doing it for close to two months now.

[sufrommich]

46. Seriously? Do you think the Clinton campaign is scouring

DU for campaign advice?

[Warren DeMontague]

48. Your OP doesnt make any sense.

Either she should have been doing this a while ago, or shes already doing it.

[seabeyond]

38. I find it ironic, Cruz says the voters have spoken and stepped out for Trump to focus on Clinton.

Sanders says, my voters are more important, overturn the votes of the people and elect me. Continuing his attacks on Clinton. Now she has it coming from Trump and our very own candidate attacking her, and Sanders using her resources.

Yes, It is time Clinton walks from the primary, and saves her money and focuses on GE.

As Sanders continues his chaos and mayhem with our party.

What a man.

[Demsrule86]

41. She does

Of course, Sanders is now on the Trump team every time he criticises her and the Democratic Party...sad way to go out.

[boston bean]

45. That is pretty much my thought as well. Plus they both say YYYYYUUUUGE!

[JaneyVee]

43. Bernie needs his ego stroked a bit more.

[cali]

49. Utter crap. Pointless whining. Never seen so many poor winners.

[Sunlei]

57. Wait until Republicans let 'Tabloid-Trump' pass through the Republican Primary.

[Thinkingabout]

63. Yes she needs to focus on Trump, we know what Hillary's agenda, what do we know about

Trumps agenda, he doesn't have one.

[Jitter65]

65. Not quite. Let Dem surrogates hammer at Trump. She needs to have some surprises for the GE.

There is nothing like boxing with yourself in a ring when your opponent just stands there.

[Sunlei]

69. Exactly, hold off until GE. Let Republicans alone give Trump legitimacy in their Republican party.

Our Ds don't have to waste time on every idiot republican- the bagger party tries to run for office.

[bahrbearian]

66. I want a President that can multi-task , if she can't do that what is she going to do as President

All's she has to do is run her mouth it's not that hard for her, it's not Labor or "Hard Work!"

[Gothmog]

68. She is-Sanders will not be the nominee