2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIndiana had low turn out for Dems, but not for Reps!.
Bernie always wins with higher turn out, but this one was record low. We did ABOUT 50% OF 2008 and the republicans did over 200% of 2008???
McCain, John Sidney, III 320,308 77.62%
Huckabee, Michael Dale "Mike" 41,173 9.98%
Paul, Ronald Ernest "Ron" 31,611 7.66%
Romney, Mitt 19,581 4.74%
412,673
Trump 583,462 53.2
Cruz 401,959 36.7
985,421
238.78%
vs
Clinton, Hillary Rodham 646,253 50.56%
Obama, Barack Hussein 632,061 49.44%
1,278,314
Sanders 332,516 52.5
Clinton 300,851 47.5
633,367
49.54%
BTW Dems got
64.27% of the votes the Republicans got.
That is wild.
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)But yes turnout is a problem.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)But this is like they swapped votes between parties...this could spell a republican win (I know they say primary turnout means nothing...but does it really not?).
pat_k
(10,348 posts)And the Republican race was essentially over in 2008 -- so their turnout was depressed even more.
Indiana is a "Red State" (not deep red, but red nonetheless). The extremely low turnout in 2008 reflects the state of the Republican race at that time.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Bernie supporters have been way more enthusiastic, so it would make sense they would still be fighting despite the media (oh and they also trust the media less so they are more likely to ignore them). But still that turn out is crazy low. In 2008 the vote total in the general was 2,751,054, and 1,345,648 of those were for the Republican...that means they almost matched their general election turn out from last time. Just a bit sobering.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)But for the other side. A lot of anti-DEM sentiment in this country. Hillary should win the GE based on demographics (women, blacks, latinos), but will she get the turnout?
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Youth vote of under 45 or such does not appear as likely to support her, and that is a big vote that they always say the Dems need...that and the independents. But yeah, I think them Dems have been ignoring the wave...
kcjohn1
(751 posts)Turnout is always the name of the game. No matter who is on the ballot for GOP, this cycle is theirs. Just like 08 were Dems had the enthusiasm (beyond Obama, voting against Bush), GOP has it this time.
What you have seen in the primaries is base vs base. Right now GOP is winning 60/40, and they have the early advantage. That is why the challenge for the dem candidate is to get more people out, because if turnout is low (close to 50% than to 60%), the GOP will win.
I don't see how Clinton brings out the under 45 voters. This is going to be confusing for those voters because as much as they hate Trump, they hate Clinton just slightly less. Obama it was easy because they actually liked him. More difficult to come out and vote against someone, than to vote for someone.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And I think they are all here in GDP. HA.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)...like half of last time, and the republican one was double...just was a bit odd.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)...was occurring in the south. Areas had a positive growth rate for republican house holds, while not in democratic.