2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton's Internet Troll Campaign Against Bernie Sanders Is A New Low
A political organization supporting Hillary Clinton is planning to take on Bernie Sanders, one social media account at a time. Twitter, Facebook, and others might soon get even nastier if thats still possible for the 2016 election cycle.
Correct the Record, a hybrid-PAC supporting Clinton, announced a task force called Barrier Breakers 2016. The purpose is to correct online commentary, according to the announcement.
While Hillary Clinton fights to break down barriers and bring America together, the Barrier Breakers 2016 digital task force will serve as a resource for supporters looking for positive content and push-back to share with their online progressive communities, as well as thanking prominent supporters and committed superdelegates on social media.
It goes on to explain that the task force will be staffed with former reporters, bloggers, public affairs specialists, designers, Ready for Hillary alumni, and Hillary super fans ready to push back against Clintons attackers on Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and Instagram.
Or as the New York Daily News explained, the group is an online mob of paid trolls designed to attack any and every person who says one cross word about Hillary Clinton on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Reddit, or elsewhere.
The political group says it has put $1 million behind its fight for the comments section. Bernie Sanders campaign has said theyve spent approximately $0 for online commentary so far.
Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/3033052/clintons-internet-troll-campaign-against-bernie-sanders-is-a-new-low/#gbu7bOlu1JldIqRZ.99
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It's absolutely disgraceful!
The getting paid is the disgraceful part.
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)Nobody said it like Bette!
savalez
(3,517 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)How typical - a Hillary supporter defending things a progressive should be against.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)Try again.
Oh, but forget it. Your on ignore for defending this crap.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Then they reported the pages based on pornographic images and had the pages taken down. Shall we assume you are okay with that tactic?
For some reason I am sure you are.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Take from that what you will.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)I can wait.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)You know what you were doing.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)Nothing more.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)What I am defending is CTR correcting lies against Hillary.
But you knew that and you were trying to make me look bad.
Thats ok, I forgive you.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Have many indications. Including felonious activity regarding vote counts.
No matter what we say, you would say it was not "proof" so all I can say is that if what is happening to Bernie was happening to Hillary, Bernie would be facing charges.
BTW, fellow Bernie supporters, here is the skinny on what to do if you think things are being "adjusted" away from Bernie and for HRC:
Justice.org continues to collect affidavits in an effort to document our cause for election changes, with both immediate and long term goals and they are seeking our help. You can and should report violations to the Sanders Campaign : Bernie wants you to call 347-379-4298 FIRST!!!
That's Bernie's Voter Protection Hotline
and/or e-mail [email protected] but do not stop there, report also to Justice.org.
In the days leading up to and throughout Election Day, Civil Rights Division staff members will also be available by telephone to receive complaints from citizens in all states and jurisdictions nationwide related to possible violations of the federal voting rights laws (toll free 1-800-253-3931 or 202-307-2767) or TTY (202-305-0082). In addition, individuals may also report such complaints by fax to 202-307-3961, by email to [email protected] and by a complaint form on the departments website: www.justice.gov/crt/about/vot/.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)There are no indications that CTR should be absolved.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Response to hrmjustin (Reply #75)
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hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)truedelphi
(32,324 posts)"Watergate is just a small bump in the road; once he is elected, it will all go away."
And for quite a while, it looked like they were right. Then came that glorious day in August of 1974 when the helicopter took off from the White House lawn.
Anyway, as long as reports keep popping up, I will remain firmly convinced that HRC should be indicted not only for her release and discussion of classified material, but also for her letting Brock do things such as are detailed in this article:
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/clintons-internet-supporters-allegedly-using-porno.html
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)I doubt you care as you know your opinion of me means nothing to me.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Interesting.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"Take from that what you will..."
An allegation cowering behind implication.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)And they have admitted it. Either you are okay with it or you are not. Which are you?
emulatorloo
(44,119 posts)Arneoker
(375 posts)Because you aren't. Because one or a few Hillary supporters do despicable crap doesn't mean all Hillary supporters are okay with that.
Matt_in_STL
(1,446 posts)You are just as responsible for HillPorn.
tex-wyo-dem
(3,190 posts)As a $3 bill. Pathetic...mirrors the candidate.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)LAS14
(13,783 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)pro-Hillary enough is bullying.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)that have been confirmed to be behind the porn allegation, then yes, you are defending trolling and bullying.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)coordinates all of this?
David Brock's CTR is the grey area SuperPAC that coordinates all of it.
You remember Brock, right? He called Hill a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty.
I can not believe y'all support this SOB. It is truly mind-boggling.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)If not, read it fucking right now.
That is OUR proof.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)TM99
(8,352 posts)Did you read it?
If not, then you are willfully putting your head in the sand and accepting the vile bastard Brock as an acceptable surrogate.
GW had Rove. Hillary has Brock. Isn't that special!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)But you have no proof it was him.
TM99
(8,352 posts)You trouble me.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Wow you are something else.
TM99
(8,352 posts)and you refuse to see for the sake of your support of Clinton.
That is cult of personality like behavior and it is troubling when I see otherwise compassionate and intelligent people fall into that trap.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)That is disturbing.
TM99
(8,352 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)"Neener! Neener! Neener!" isn't a defence
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)To disrupt is to troll
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The point is to harass and derail civil discourse.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)but you knew that.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And you admit they are trolls.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The bizarre world of 'Defending Hillary'
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)1. Create fake accounts
2. Establish that they are Bernie supporters by making them tweet about Bernie
3. Harass journalists and influencers in their @ mentions
4. Have other elites/influencers quote tweet these fake accounts and say they are hurting Bernies brand
5. Post child-porn to Sanders facebook groups
6.Establish a narrative that Bernies supporters are all racist, sexist young males who harass people online.
7. Make it more difficult for Sanders to expand his coalition by tainting the view of said coalition for women, people of color, and anyone who just doesnt like online harassment/bullying.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Hillary is channeling Putin
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And child-porn is their chosen MO.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)FFS.
I hope the FBI or whoever takes care of this sort of crime is on it. Or maybe Facebook itself starts these things off?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And no history. A million dollars buys a lot of sleeze, doesn't it Hillary?
polly7
(20,582 posts)I hope they're not too hard to track down. Hopefully ...... prison, next.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)However, you may need to worry about Facebook's ability to trace posts.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #63)
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athena
(4,187 posts)How to 'support' Hillary, by David Brock
1. Create fake accounts
2. Establish that they are Bernie supporters by making them tweet about Bernie
3. Harass journalists and influencers in their @ mentions
4. Have other elites/influencers quote tweet these fake accounts and say they are hurting Bernies brand
5. Post child-porn to Sanders facebook groups
6.Establish a narrative that Bernies supporters are all racist, sexist young males who harass people online.
7. Make it more difficult for Sanders to expand his coalition by tainting the view of said coalition for women, people of color, and anyone who just doesnt like online harassment/bullying.
Please provide evidence that this comes from David Brock and not you.
It's pretty bad to make something up and then put someone else's name to it.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)dime to the FBI if that is the case. Many years in prison for such acts if it is happening.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...in order to get the pages taken down, is promoting civil discourse?
Who knew.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)..."I will never vote for him because of his nasty supporters."
Well now the shoe's on the other foot, and you gotta wear it.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)athena
(4,187 posts)Theories on Sanderss primary subreddit and Facebook pages quickly popped up, accusing Hillary Clinton supporters of a coordinated effort with a SuperPAC to report the Sanders pages for threats of violence and child pornography until the pages went down.
Some news organizations appeared to back some of the theories.
...
But Facebookand now even the affected pro-Sanders groups themselvessay that the real problem was merely a database error that affected more pages than just Sanders-leaning community pages.
creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)nobody notices this post.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...to take down an opponent's Facebook pages!
No, really.
demmiblue
(36,845 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)silvershadow
(10,336 posts)treading on thin ice with that kind of sick, sick harassment.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)Who has consistently lied on just about every policy matter she has ever participated in, from her vote on the IWR, her views on Fracking, her ties to Wall Street, etc.
And not only that, she is being investigated by the FBI for a release or discussion of classified materials that she should not have shared with Blumenthal. Indictment could very well be part of her future.
IF the stench of Hillary's lies doesn't bother them (I guess the money is pretty good) then why should it surprise us that child pornography got planted.
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/04/clintons-internet-supporters-allegedly-using-porno.html
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)ljm2002
(10,751 posts)It clearly was Hillary supporters -- HillaryBros, if you will -- who proceeded to brag about it on Twitter.
Facebook has acknowledged what happened -- a concerted attack on Bernie-supporting pages.
Sanders has taken heat for months for what his supporters, his "BernieBros" are supposedly guilty of.
Hillary's turn.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)And it is not like this doesn't happen to other groups. A group I belong to on religion gets spammed with porn all the time.
There are creepy people out there.
Claiming CTR did it without proof is not right.
frylock
(34,825 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Arneoker
(375 posts)And there is no particular reason to think that it is true.
northernsouthern
(1,511 posts)Why would people have a problem with million dollar campaigns paying for a Machiavellian style of false propaganda to subvert the will of the people!
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Cat is out of the bag.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Until someone finds the job app for getting money for sharing out the countermemes CTR has created and distributed to vocal Hillary supporters encouraging them to share, I can't believe this announcement was suggesting anything other than they're spending another million on things they've been doing for ages.
Aka, spam Hillary's supporters inboxes with "OMG Brocky, look at that article. It is SO bad. It's like those GOP guys. I love Hillary and I can't lie...."
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)They are spamming facebook groups with child porn and you defend it
moriah
(8,311 posts)... I have missed it, but if you have the time, I'd be grateful.
I'd also appreciate any proof that Correct the Record is associated with the site that claimed responsibility for those attacks against groups supporting Bernie.
Remember that in the world where this ad wasn't from Bernie but instead a GOP-funded PAC, as was this one seemingly attacking Bernie, I have little trust for people doing things that just damage Democrats being actual Democrats.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And you support it
moriah
(8,311 posts)I am trying to be exceptionally civil here to demonstrate an example, but calling me a supporter of posting child pornography isn't civil at all.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)This certainly explains why 50% of Clinton supporters come online with the EXACT same canned message all at once and spend so much time and harassing Sanders sympathizers.
moriah
(8,311 posts)And until you can provide said link, I'm going to move on to discussions with others. Have a great day!
frylock
(34,825 posts)Bros4Hillary (B4H) was created as a way to provide a positive and supportive community for supporters of Hillary Clinton to gather, and as a direct response to the hateful and divisive rhetoric used by other campaigns during this election cycle. Our mission statement is about inclusiveness and tolerance, and we pride ourselves on our diverse membership and the unity through diversity we aim to achieve. We have not and do not approve of or condone harmful or offensive rhetoric or harassing behavior targeting supporters of any other candidate in the race. We have repeatedly and officially condemned such words and behaviors.
Last night, a former member by the name of Casey Champagne decided to engage in harassing behavior toward Facebook groups of Bernie Sanders and posted about it in the B4H Facebook group. As stated above, this was not promoted or supported by the leadership of B4H, nor were we immediately aware of this conduct. We removed the offending posts and member as soon as possible. While our leadership team of administrators tries to catch every questionable post and comment, with over 7,000 members and on a 24-hour posting cycle, some fall through the cracks. We rely on members to flag and report harmful, offensive, or trolling behavior, and apologize to the groups that were affected. This member acted on his own authority, is not a part of our leadership team, and does not represent our ideals or our opinions.
To wit: Bros4Hillary is NOT defunct, as reported today by the DailyKos. We temporarily changed our privacy settings after being flooded by online attacks from external members who were upset by Mr. Champagnes behavior. We will go live again shortly and are excited about what is to come. We are growing every day. Our members have made over 20,000 calls across the United States, raised thousands of dollars, and are now apart of creating a ground campaign in California. We thank all of our members for their incredible contributions and regret that the actions of a few would spoil the work of the many. Any media inquiries regarding this incident or any other Bros4Hillary content may be made to: [email protected]. Thank you.
http://www.bros4hillary.com/statement-from-b4h-leadership/
moriah
(8,311 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)tick-tock tick-tock
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)Prove it to me.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)trumad
(41,692 posts)Response to trumad (Reply #51)
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trumad
(41,692 posts)Show it!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)NewImproved Deal
(534 posts)The Clinton Machine needs to invest in a better class of Troll...
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Zorra
(27,670 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)Response to Purveyor (Original post)
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azurnoir
(45,850 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)that disagreed with them. They could easily enact parts of the Patriot Act.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Just like the Tea Party
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)But hey ... whatever helps Bernie fans sleep after tonight's defeat.
JSup
(740 posts)...how we get from "positive content and push-back" to "trolling".
I don't see "trolling" or "aggressive posting" anywhere in the announcement.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Until someone shows me a place to apply, I can't believe this announcement is anything more than saying they're spending more cash on things CTR has been doing for ages....
Aka, spam Hillary's supporters inboxes with "OMG Brocky, look at that article. It is SO bad. It's like those GOP guys. I love Hillary and I can't lie...."
Dem2
(8,168 posts)It's too funny. And the slander against Hillary has been spewed unabated on reddit for months now. The place is literally a sewer that's been taken over by Bernie and Trump trolls. It's amazing that a group even considered to fight back against what seems like an insurmountable object.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)social media. There's nothing you can do about the crazy and ignorant except to encourage your family, friends, and neighbors to register to vote and then vote. Not just in 2016 but every two years. Most voters understand HRC is the MOST qualified candidate ad we're so lucky that she will be the DEM nominee. She will help us take back the House and Senate, maybe some gov ships and state houses. This election is really EVERYTHING. If HRC wasn't your first choice, lick your wounds and let's keep it moving. We're gonna need everyone out there doing their part.
ymetca
(1,182 posts)... to a paid troll. That's kinda been Bernie's contention all along...
Unicorn
(424 posts)felix_numinous
(5,198 posts)if the only way to win is to drown out the truth, then it is the only way to rule. Leadership inspires and empowers people to support them, while rulership rewards those who are willing to follow right or wrong.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)Unicorn
(424 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)right or are sitting in a position to complain about Clinton.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)I told that Hillary she best give me the whole million. All those other paid trolls got nothing on me!
stonecutter357
(12,696 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)This will be as serious as the allegations that Sanders' Facebook groups were targeted for deletion. These constant allegations or martyrdom are an effective political tactic, though.
salinsky
(1,065 posts).... and, they're still hiring.
But, they only pay $10.10 per hour.
Why does Bernie support slave wages for his trolls??
What happened to that $15 minimum wage??
LAS14
(13,783 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Isn't that right, Segami?
applegrove
(118,634 posts)Nobody is attacking Bernie every time somebody says something good about him. And I know this because I say good things about him all the time.