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Thu Apr 21, 2016, 09:59 AM

 

The Free College Scare - It's FREE TUITION ONLY

As in other countries. You still have to purchase your books. You still have to pay to live on campus in a dorm or apartment. You still have to eat. It's not like you show up, you are housed, fed, books put on your desk and you study for free.

IT'S TUITION ONLY!

Germany just announced they are opening it up to any citizen in the world, to come and get a college education for free! But they say, you must be able to live there, take care of yourself and still buy your books.

IT'S TUITION ONLY!!!

People here don't really sound educated when you just type up these simplistic stupid statements. Learn about it first, then bring your ideas to the table. This board sounds like, gets along like, CONGRESS.

Hope you're proud whoever spouts 'ohh....free college!'.....oh my!
Since when do democrats sound worse than the republicans? Even Trump sounds better than these OP's, making fun of free college. Just thought I'd let you know, it's tuition only, and you pay for everything else! Some books are 300.00. You can get them used, if you're lucky. But you still pay for everything else.

Please stop the 'NO WE CAN'T' shit. That is exactly what it is....shit.

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Reply The Free College Scare - It's FREE TUITION ONLY (Original post)
ViseGrip Apr 2016 OP
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #1
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #3
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #5
JDPriestly Apr 2016 #11
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #17
virtualobserver Apr 2016 #7
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #9
virtualobserver Apr 2016 #10
JDPriestly Apr 2016 #12
Trust Buster Apr 2016 #16
apnu Apr 2016 #15
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #2
Kalidurga Apr 2016 #4
Sivart Apr 2016 #6
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #13
JDPriestly Apr 2016 #8
ViseGrip Apr 2016 #14

Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:01 AM

1. The votes don't exist in Congress. I now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:06 AM

3. Ha ha, Paul Ryan is looking at something right now. They need to build a middle class.

 

Can't do that if they are in debt to college all of their life. It's not working out for the economy. Whether is free tuition with means testing, teaching for two years to forgive all debt, lower loans, they are looking cuz it's not working out. It's that why you're active? Because you care and are aware of the issues. Are you saying Hillary can't do anything about affordable college either? Is that what you're saying????

Now, back to your programming.

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Response to ViseGrip (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:13 AM

5. I like the President's plan for two years of free community college.

 

I think what would serve as a nice springboard for those wishing to complete four years of college while offering high tech manufacturing skills to those high school graduates that are not seeking a four year degree.

I like Elizabeth Warren's initiative to target education loans to the interest rate at which the government borrows. College students paying 8% is absurd. These goals are more politically realistic than blanket free tuition in my mind.

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:44 AM

11. When people borrow to go to school, they as indivuduals take on large loans

which they are supposed to pay back whether they can or not.

If we make state colleges and universities and trade schools tuition-free, then those who feel they have the money to gamble with on the stock market pay the cost.

Makes sense to me.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:38 AM

17. The votes in Congress do not exist for that. The President's plan is more achievable and helpful.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:18 AM

7. Leadership isn't possible. Voters can't be persuaded.

 

We can only present mild poll-tested ideas to the people.

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:22 AM

9. The Senate and House are currently controlled by Republicans. Be as sarcastic as you wish.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:23 AM

10. that will change

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:51 AM

12. Druing the 2014 election cycle -- the mid-term -- I was shocked to see how little the

Democratic Party was doing to raise the issues that would get Democrats to the polls to change the make-up of Congress.

We need to shake up our Democratic Party and make it a party of Doers instead of a party of the Can't Doers.

That's what a vote for Bernie means. Making the Democratic Party a party of Doers. Getting the control of the Democrat Party into the hands of Doers and taking that control out of the hands of Can't-Doers.

What is this about "They won't let us." That is the mantra of cowards, of the fearful, of children, not of strong, active adults.

The presence of Republicans in Congress is an excuse that we have to stop making. Let's talk about what we want to do and not about what "they" won't let us do.

Negativity. Negativity. Negativity. That's all we hear from the Hillary wing of the Party.

I'm a Berniebro (although I am a woman) because I want to change that.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:36 AM

16. We need voters during the midterms. No excuses.

 

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Response to Trust Buster (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 11:04 AM

15. No they don't, so change Congress.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:03 AM

2. As far as free college for Trump's kids? People like him make donations to the

 

university's rich people attend. Donations bigger than the education their kids receive. Look it up....all over the country.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:10 AM

4. Well that's why I think free college doesn't go far enough.

I think housing and books should be in there plus a some money for food. Now if someone wants to work for extras like concert tickets, nicer clothes, and other activities fine. I don't think working 10 hours a week up to 20 for a single student no children is going to impact their grades too much or cause a lifetime of problems with sleep disorders.

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:15 AM

6. Its not free......Man, this gets old.

 

Its just paid for a different way.

And the OP is spot on.....Just the tuition......not the housing and the meal plans and the athletic fees and the book fees.......Just the tuition......and not free......just paid for with taxes instead of student loans / out of pocket.

Exactly like we do with public high schools and grade schools now.

So, does the Democratic party now have an issue with Public K-12 because it is a hand out to the rich like the Trump family? Is that where the party is going????


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Response to Sivart (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:52 AM

13. Correct, and it's tuition only.

 

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Response to ViseGrip (Original post)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:19 AM

8. K&R because you are so right, ViseGrip. And we can afford it!

And Sivart is right. It isn't "free." It's just paid for a different way.

And I would like to add that we are already paying for it right now.

Now, we loan the money to students for their tuition. Then they have to pay it back plus interest. If they make as individuals, a lot of money, they are OK. But if they have a couple of kids and do a job that pays enough to eat and live but not a lot more like teach school or wait tables or start a business, then they get into trouble.

If the tuition is "free," which it isn't really, then those who gamble on the stock market (the market-makers among them) pay a small tax to cover the cost of the free tuition for everyone.

Does Bernie understand this stuff?

Yes. He does. He served on Budget Committee. He has also served on the Banking Committee, and he has been in Congress for many, many years and continuously and has more experience with the numbers and the laws than does Hillary any day.

And don't let anyone tell you any different.

Because that's the truth.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:53 AM

14. Thanks! Keep kicking!!!

 

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