2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPurple Poll: 12 "swing" states: Obama 47, Romney 45.
In just Ohio, Obama 46-44
Colorado, Obama 47-46
Virginia, 47-47 tie
The 12 states are Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida.
These numbers are not nearly as good as I thought they would be, because I think he should be up by good margins in at least NM, PA, and MN.
http://www.purplestrategies.com/wp-content/uploads/October_v7.pdf
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Ohio (Obama +2): Our result in Ohio shows a
small move in Governor Romneys direction
over the last month. Today, President Obama
leads 46% to 44%, down from a 4-point lead in
September. President Obama has a strong lead
among early voters: 26% of Ohio voters say they
have already voted, and he leads by 26 points
among that group. Romney holds a 2-point lead
among independents in the s tate.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)the polling averages have been overwhelmingly for Obama.
Dr Claw
(51 posts)(occasional lurker, new poster)
...I voted early in Cuyahoga County. Last night, after 5:30 PM, when I arrived there, there were a very good amount of people in there. A long line of people ahead of me and behind me. Young and old, voting.
I fully expect Cuyahoga (which is overwhelmingly "Obama Country", aside from "last stand" locales like Solon) to go to Obama. I just hope the rest of Ohio does what's right. I was just glad to see so many people voting early.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)they have been slightly right leaning. So consider these conservative numbers.
I think it's great news given the pollster.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Didn't live up to the hype. Perhaps it caught Romney at the peak of his momentum that has since abated and will abate some more.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)...for what that's worth.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)Castellanos. But yeah they have been right leaning all season.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)Steve Mcmahon is a dem and he works there. They have both Republicans and Democrats.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)MadBadger
(24,089 posts)They have Obama in the lead still. And there have been no elections yet. How do you know its right leaning?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)in the nine swing states plus Minnesota, New Mexico, and Pennsylvania, we're in bad shape.
Assume that he's only up 5 points in the safe states, that means:
PA: O+5
NM: O+5
MN: O+5
OH: O+2
CO: O+1
VA: Tied
That means Romney is probably ahead in all the others combined, which includes Iowa, Wisconsin, Nevada, FL, NC, NH.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I suspect Purple Strategies exists more for businesses and groups that want to affect legislation than it does for individual candidates. If a group or business wants to affect legislation it makes more sense to seek the help of a bipartisan organization.
Welcome_hubby
(312 posts)This means he's full of shit.
Rasmussen also has Ohio a tie and Romney ahead in VA by 2%, so this Purple Poll (which leans right, by the way) confirms Rasmussen's right-wing bias.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)Where does this Right leaning polling thing come from?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)This is not a good poll result--shows Obama only at 46% in Ohio and considering that 3 states--MN, NM and PA--on that list are safe Obama states, to be up by only 2 indicates big deficits somewhere else--most likely FL and NC.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)I don't see how having three Democrats as partners means squat. Baydoun/Foster is a Democratic group and has Obama and Romney tied 47-47 in Michigan ... while they also had Romney up 15 in Florida back in August.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)1, Their polls lean Right
2, Their a RW organization.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)I'll take it.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)TexasCPA
(527 posts)If Obama wins OH + CO or VA, then Obama is president.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)safe for us.
They must have found Romney way ahead in FL and NC.
Meh.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They also have way too many undecideds. According to their OH poll, 26% have already voted, but 10% are undecided.
That means that something like 15% of those who have yet to vote are undecided. I don't buy that.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MadBadger
(24,089 posts)So those individual polls are not related to the main 12 state poll.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Based on what I saw on my T.V. Screen a little while ago.
TexasCPA
(527 posts)Based upon 2008 votes, here is what the sample should look like:
5.93% CO
20.73% FL
3.80% IA
7.19% MN
2.39% NV
1.76% NH
2.05% NM
10.66% NC
14.10% OH
14.82% PA
9.20% VA
7.37% WI
I can throw these number in to come up with an Obama +2%.
1.00% CO
-1.00% FL
2.00% IA
8.00% MN
4.00% NV
2.00% NH
8.00% NM
-1.00% NC
2.00% OH
5.00% PA
0.00% VA
3.00% WI
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)obama leads in all 12?
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Good but not worth the tease by McMahon.
TexasCPA
(527 posts)"N size=1000 likely voters, margin of error +/-3.1. CO, OH, and VA have been oversampled to N=600 per state, margin of error +/-4.0."
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Purple Strategies polled 1000 people in 12 states for the overall poll. For the OH, VA, and CO polls they polled 600 people per state. Basically, 1,000 people in 12 states is an extremely small sample. It is about 83 people per each of the 12 states. It is more of a national poll of people from the 12 states then a true representation of each state. Don't worry about how much each state would work out to be because the sample size is simply too small for that. Not enough people from each state were polled. Therefore, to be up 2 points is just fine. Obama was up 5 points in September. The other 3 states have enough people sampled to give a clearer picture.
As for the other 3 polls, Purple Strategies has always shown very good results for Romney.
OH as plus 2 for Obama in this right leaning poll and plus 2 for Obama in right leaning ARG are very bad for Romney. CNN has it plus 4 in OH today. Romney is not going to win Ohio with this many days left.
CO and VA should not even be in play for Obama in this right leaning poll if Romney is going to win WI, IA, OH, or NV. Mittens would need to be up in those states to be winning the other states too. He is not. Mitt is in trouble in the electoral college and he knows it. Ryan is not in the redstates just for money. He is distancing himself from Mittens.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Actually, I like the tie in Virginia a lot more than the 46-44 lead in Ohio.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)among those 12 states. You couldn't break it down that way because 83 people per state is not enough to determine that. It basically tells us that Obama is not behind among the 1,000 people spread across those 12 states. That is bad for Mittens. He needs to be ahead in CO, VA, NV, IA, WI, etc.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)Why did they only release actual numbers for 3 states?
In the past they have released numbers for more states than that, yes?
Why no numbers for IO, NV, NH, FL etc?