Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:16 AM

End The Talking Point: Crowd Size

After last night's large defeat for 'native son' Bernie Sanders, can we officially end the talking point about crowd size? For weeks now, all we've been hearing about is the massive size of the crowds Bernie has been drawing. It didn't make a difference in Texas, or Florida, or Ohio, but it was supposed to matter here in NY. This was different.

No, it's wasn't.

Bernie's big crowds look to be the entirety of his support in some areas of NYC, and they were not even close to enough to have him catch up to Hillary's support. Also, let's keep in mind that in the most populated city in the country, Bernie was drawing crowds that Syracuse University draws for a random basketball game... when there's a foot of snow on the ground.

Crowd size does not matter. It has been proven.

Votes matter.

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End The Talking Point: Crowd Size (Original post)	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	OP
If it makes you uncomfortable, don't use it.	Orsino	Apr 2016	#1
It doesn't exist.	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#8
Faulty logic.	Orsino	Apr 2016	#9
"Bernie supporters love to rally, Clinton supporters love voting." nt	IamMab	Apr 2016	#2
Hillary supporters are actually eligible to vote in the primary!	NurseJackie	Apr 2016	#4
The crowds might be turned off by what they're hearing	ecstatic	Apr 2016	#3
Bernie Sanders speaks out about election irregularities.	peace13	Apr 2016	#5
Yep.	rock	Apr 2016	#6
There's no reason to end it: the people who keep making it can keep making fools of themselves	alcibiades_mystery	Apr 2016	#7

Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:19 AM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

1. If it makes you uncomfortable, don't use it.

Just don't pretend it doesn't exist, when Sanders has won more delegates in some contests.

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Response to Orsino (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:45 AM

CrowCityDem (2,348 posts)

8. It doesn't exist.

He draws crowds in every place, but only wins in some places. Therefore, it doesn't have any effect.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:53 AM

Orsino (37,428 posts)

9. Faulty logic.

It's a factor, but only one factor.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:20 AM

IamMab (1,359 posts)

2. "Bernie supporters love to rally, Clinton supporters love voting." nt

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Response to IamMab (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:23 AM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

4. Hillary supporters are actually eligible to vote in the primary!

That's a big one too!

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:21 AM

ecstatic (30,797 posts)

3. The crowds might be turned off by what they're hearing

at the rallies. Not just from Bernie, but from his surrogates and fellow participants. The negative tone might be a turn off.

Can someone describe what Bernie's rallies are like from a neutral perspective?

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:27 AM

peace13 (11,076 posts)

5. Bernie Sanders speaks out about election irregularities.

Hillary Clinton...not so much. But trust that she will have your best interests at heart later.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:29 AM

rock (13,218 posts)

6. Yep.

Welcome aboard.

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Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Wed Apr 20, 2016, 09:30 AM

alcibiades_mystery (36,437 posts)

7. There's no reason to end it: the people who keep making it can keep making fools of themselves

50,000 people in Washington Square Park! Yahoo!

Bernie lost every borough in New York City. He didn't win a county south of the Tappan Zee. His New York losses were massive: 60-40 in Brooklyn, 70-30 in the Bronx, 66-33 in Manhattan! (Psst: Washington Square Park is in Manhattan). A complete ass kicking.

The more they make the crowd size argument, the sillier they sound.

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