Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:19 PM

“Supporters of Bernie love rallies. Supporters of Hillary love to vote.”

A very interesting article by Joan Walsh talking about her experiences in NYC this weekend:

http://www.thenation.com/article/surprise-new-york-democrats-like-the-democratic-party/

There are very good anecdotes in there about why Bernie's supporters turn off so many people, and why Democrats are not warming up to Bernie's "democrats are corrupt" schtick.

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“Supporters of Bernie love rallies. Supporters of Hillary love to vote.” (Original post)	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	OP
Stupid	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#1
Vote. They vote.	Buzz Clik	Apr 2016	#3
The only crowds that matter are the ones who show up at the polls on Election Day.	LonePirate	Apr 2016	#4
I'll take Hillary's vote totals over Bernie's crowd numbers any day.	RandySF	Apr 2016	#7
Some of us have, y'know, jobs	Tarc	Apr 2016	#12
That was the GOPs excuse for there being more port-a-potties than attendees at Tea Party rallies	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#51
And they were Horrendously successful.	Amimnoch	Apr 2016	#62
It's a presidential campaign	AgingAmerican	Apr 2016	#68
It's a series of Primary elections, followed by a General Election..	Amimnoch	Apr 2016	#69
Exactly	DemonGoddess	Apr 2016	#73
She isn't seeking large crowds to practice demagoguery. She's doing smaller groups	KittyWampus	Apr 2016	#19
You can't hear what people are saying if you are the one talking. She listens, it is important	Thinkingabout	Apr 2016	#54
Joan Walsh's DAUGHTER WORKS FOR HRC! She's a pathetic, sad, despicable person,	roguevalley	Apr 2016	#25
That is a sad, small-minded insult for absolutely no reason. Very 'progressive' of you.	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#36
no, its the truth. I remember her railing against Obama for Hillary in 2008. She's even more	roguevalley	Apr 2016	#37
None of that justifies calling her a despicable person. It was ugly, and we're supposed to be better	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#38
A bunch of quotes from Bernie haters is not evidence of anything.	Dawgs	Apr 2016	#2
Yes, they Vote 2.4 Million more than Bernie	itsrobert	Apr 2016	#5
Yes they do...	northernsouthern	Apr 2016	#8
Hooo, she's a winner	passiveporcupine	Apr 2016	#24
Some one posted this on my other thread about the WA caucus	northernsouthern	Apr 2016	#30
Sanders voters are attracted to "Camplaigners" ... (Boston Bean)	uponit7771	Apr 2016	#6
Oh, DAMMMN! Joan Walsh nails it!	NurseJackie	Apr 2016	#9
After departing from Salon, poor Joan has really lost it!!	Peregrine Took	Apr 2016	#18
she's a hack. Her daughter works for HRC. By the way, love glozell Oh and she's getting her ass	roguevalley	Apr 2016	#27
Seems like...doesn't it?	Sheepshank	Apr 2016	#10
her daughter has a stake in the outcome. She works for HRC.	roguevalley	Apr 2016	#28
And my daughter roots for Bernie...so?	Sheepshank	Apr 2016	#72
...and war and fracking and TPP and oligarchy and...	Lizzie Poppet	Apr 2016	#11
Now, if only Sanders had actual, in depth, workable PLANS to deal with any of that.	KittyWampus	Apr 2016	#21
Supporters of Clinton love to form their opinions by watching or reading	mhatrw	Apr 2016	#13
When Sanders supporters trash Clinton for fundraising down-ticket Democrats	KittyWampus	Apr 2016	#22
This message was self-deleted by its author	Hortensis	Apr 2016	#60
...	WhiteTara	Apr 2016	#14
They sure do!	Arkana	Apr 2016	#15
Supporters of Bernie like to make phone calls. 3 MILLION over the weekend in fact, all to NY voters.	jillan	Apr 2016	#16
And Clinton supporters are ALLOWED to vote	Doctor_J	Apr 2016	#17
^^this^^	ridgenvalley	Apr 2016	#20
Clinton supporters are smart enough to check the rules. But then we've been involved	KittyWampus	Apr 2016	#23
Its a shame that you and the party big shots are intent on pushing millions of voters	Doctor_J	Apr 2016	#46
Bingo	Stuckinthebush	Apr 2016	#63
check this out and think maybe this whole meme being catapulted by Camp weathervane	azurnoir	Apr 2016	#43
I would say the system is rigged to make it difficult for Bernie supporters to vote, and easier	ThePhilosopher04	Apr 2016	#26
If it's rigged, it's only rigged to favor Democrats.	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#29
Corporate, establishment Democrats.	ThePhilosopher04	Apr 2016	#31
Those pesky Democrats	Stuckinthebush	Apr 2016	#64
You all are in for a big surprise.. you are expecting hillary to crush it in New York city... she	berniepdx420	Apr 2016	#32
NYC is NOT "super-liberal"...it is "super-Democratic"	brooklynite	Apr 2016	#66
I can't speak to the other groups...	OilemFirchen	Apr 2016	#71
To me it is so sad	apcalc	Apr 2016	#33
dry those tears, my dear	Merryland	Apr 2016	#52
To me it is so sad to see what Clinton has done to my party.	Ed Suspicious	Apr 2016	#53
It's OK cause	4nic8em	Apr 2016	#58
He will be gone soon	Stuckinthebush	Apr 2016	#65
Very interesting...Thank you!	lunamagica	Apr 2016	#34
K&R	mcar	Apr 2016	#35
My mom and all of her large group of friends are big time Hillary supporters...	anotherproletariat	Apr 2016	#39
They also seem to be A-OK	ibegurpard	Apr 2016	#40
The 16 year old said he was not a Bernie Supporter. Someone handed him the Bernie Sander's sign.	Skwmom	Apr 2016	#41
This type of stuff really doesn't pass the smell test. n/t	Skwmom	Apr 2016	#42
Why?	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#44
I see she and Kacie Hunt got their Talking Points from Der Brockster:	AzDar	Apr 2016	#45
There was no good reason for the speakers at those rallies to keep ranting about the party issue.	Ken Burch	Apr 2016	#47
Do you get how insulting that is?	CrowCityDem	Apr 2016	#55
+1 n/t	SFnomad	Apr 2016	#59
Individual Dems can have strong principles, obviously.	Ken Burch	Apr 2016	#70
But not show up at caucuses. nt	Live and Learn	Apr 2016	#48
enough	Marrah_G	Apr 2016	#49
K & R most enthusiastically.	Surya Gayatri	Apr 2016	#50
Good GOD these people are just deranged. Who the hell acts like this???!!	Number23	Apr 2016	#56
Hillary's supporters don't need a circus, pots & pans and dancing pandas.	Maru Kitteh	Apr 2016	#57
Well...Pandas ARE nice...	brooklynite	Apr 2016	#67
Maybe here are just more Hillary supporters	Renew Deal	Apr 2016	#61

Response to CrowCityDem (Original post)

Mon Apr 18, 2016, 03:21 PM

AgingAmerican (12,958 posts)

1. Stupid

She can't draw a large crowd, so they do this....

“Supporters of Bernie love rallies. Supporters of Hillary love to vote.”

1. Stupid

3. Vote. They vote.

4. The only crowds that matter are the ones who show up at the polls on Election Day.

7. I'll take Hillary's vote totals over Bernie's crowd numbers any day.

12. Some of us have, y'know, jobs

51. That was the GOPs excuse for there being more port-a-potties than attendees at Tea Party rallies

62. And they were Horrendously successful.

68. It's a presidential campaign

69. It's a series of Primary elections, followed by a General Election..

73. Exactly

19. She isn't seeking large crowds to practice demagoguery. She's doing smaller groups

54. You can't hear what people are saying if you are the one talking. She listens, it is important

25. Joan Walsh's DAUGHTER WORKS FOR HRC! She's a pathetic, sad, despicable person,

36. That is a sad, small-minded insult for absolutely no reason. Very 'progressive' of you.

37. no, its the truth. I remember her railing against Obama for Hillary in 2008. She's even more

38. None of that justifies calling her a despicable person. It was ugly, and we're supposed to be better

2. A bunch of quotes from Bernie haters is not evidence of anything.

5. Yes, they Vote 2.4 Million more than Bernie

8. Yes they do...

24. Hooo, she's a winner

30. Some one posted this on my other thread about the WA caucus

6. Sanders voters are attracted to "Camplaigners" ... (Boston Bean)

9. Oh, DAMMMN! Joan Walsh nails it!

18. After departing from Salon, poor Joan has really lost it!!

27. she's a hack. Her daughter works for HRC. By the way, love glozell Oh and she's getting her ass

10. Seems like...doesn't it?

28. her daughter has a stake in the outcome. She works for HRC.

72. And my daughter roots for Bernie...so?

11. ...and war and fracking and TPP and oligarchy and...

21. Now, if only Sanders had actual, in depth, workable PLANS to deal with any of that.

13. Supporters of Clinton love to form their opinions by watching or reading

22. When Sanders supporters trash Clinton for fundraising down-ticket Democrats

14. ...

15. They sure do!

16. Supporters of Bernie like to make phone calls. 3 MILLION over the weekend in fact, all to NY voters.

17. And Clinton supporters are ALLOWED to vote

20. ^^this^^

23. Clinton supporters are smart enough to check the rules. But then we've been involved

46. Its a shame that you and the party big shots are intent on pushing millions of voters

63. Bingo

43. check this out and think maybe this whole meme being catapulted by Camp weathervane

26. I would say the system is rigged to make it difficult for Bernie supporters to vote, and easier

29. If it's rigged, it's only rigged to favor Democrats.

31. Corporate, establishment Democrats.

64. Those pesky Democrats

32. You all are in for a big surprise.. you are expecting hillary to crush it in New York city... she

66. NYC is NOT "super-liberal"...it is "super-Democratic"

71. I can't speak to the other groups...

33. To me it is so sad

52. dry those tears, my dear

53. To me it is so sad to see what Clinton has done to my party.

58. It's OK cause

65. He will be gone soon

34. Very interesting...Thank you!

35. K&R

39. My mom and all of her large group of friends are big time Hillary supporters...

40. They also seem to be A-OK

41. The 16 year old said he was not a Bernie Supporter. Someone handed him the Bernie Sander's sign.

42. This type of stuff really doesn't pass the smell test. n/t

44. Why?

45. I see she and Kacie Hunt got their Talking Points from Der Brockster:

47. There was no good reason for the speakers at those rallies to keep ranting about the party issue.

55. Do you get how insulting that is?

59. +1 n/t

70. Individual Dems can have strong principles, obviously.

48. But not show up at caucuses. nt

49. enough

50. K & R most enthusiastically.

56. Good GOD these people are just deranged. Who the hell acts like this???!!

57. Hillary's supporters don't need a circus, pots & pans and dancing pandas.

67. Well...Pandas ARE nice...

61. Maybe here are just more Hillary supporters