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pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 07:53 PM Apr 2016

Legal experts, Dan Abrams and Richard Lempert, believe Clinton will not be indicted.

The existing legal analysis of this issue has mostly been done by ABC legal analyst Dan Abrams, Emeritus Professor of Law Richard Lempert and Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus. Their arguments center on the difficulty to find compelling evidence that Hillary Clinton knowingly sent sensitive information, because there are no emails “marked classified” on her server. They also believe it would be hard to prove Clinton intentionally put American secrets at risk with her emailing practices and server security.

As of January 2016, the State Department has withheld 22 emails from Clinton’s server as being too classified to release to the public. We know two of these emails surround the movement of North Korean missiles, and the specifics of a drone operation...After Clinton turned over 55,000 pages of emails to the State Department, she subsequently deleted the remaining contents on the server claiming those emails to be personal and not work-related.

Interestingly, a Romanian hacker by the alias “Guccifer” hacked into Blumenthal’s AOL account (not Clinton’s) back in March 2013 and leaked four Benghazi-related emails between him and Clinton. “Guccifer” is now being extradited to the United States from Romania, perhaps to testify to federal investigators about the authenticity of these leaked emails between Blumenthal and Clinton.


Once Clinton turned over her server to the FBI in August 2015, reports began to emerge that it was extremely vulnerable to hacking attempts because the server permitted remote-access connections directly over the Internet. Not only that, Clinton did not encrypt any of her emails for the first two months as Secretary of State.

Before becoming Secretary of State in 2009, Clinton purchased a private email server to be installed in her home in New York. On this server she used the email address [email protected] for all work and personal correspondence throughout her 4-year tenure as Secretary. She did not use, or activate, an official State Department “state.gov” email account throughout this time. This separates her case from former Secretaries of State Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice who had a private email address, but primarily used their work email.


OPINION: Why Hillary Clinton Will Be Indicted for Mishandling Classified Information
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Legal experts, Dan Abrams and Richard Lempert, believe Clinton will not be indicted. (Original Post) pantsonfire Apr 2016 OP
Let's check in with Bernie supporters for their reaction CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #1
Clearly, you didn't read the last link. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #4
Sure, if she plays dumb she might get off. Might. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #2
Of course she won't be indicted for mishandling classified information, neither was Petarous. Autumn Apr 2016 #3
Well he did plead guilty to leaking classified info. He got a slap on the wrist. BillZBubb Apr 2016 #5
Yeah leaked it to his woman, Hill mishandled it. When I think of these events and Snowden Autumn Apr 2016 #7
Hillary's case is going to be right out on center stage come September/October. Bob41213 Apr 2016 #10
Listen to them. MineralMan Apr 2016 #6
Send your keen insight to the FBI, that way they can stop wasting their time! BillZBubb Apr 2016 #8
Why would I do that? MineralMan Apr 2016 #9
Fifty cents says she is out of the race before Memorial Day IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #13
FBI is the opinion that matters since they KNOW the crimes they are IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #11
The other side is which technicality will she use to beat the rap? BillZBubb Apr 2016 #12
Why did you title your post the exact OPPOSITE of what the article says? IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #14
It's an exerpt from the article... pantsonfire Apr 2016 #15
The guy lists half a dozen crimes with some pretty damning evidence. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #16
Dan Abrams' father is a legal expert DefenseLawyer Apr 2016 #17

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
4. Clearly, you didn't read the last link.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton may wiggle out of an indictment, but it's going to be a close call.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
2. Sure, if she plays dumb she might get off. Might.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:03 PM
Apr 2016

But she had to know classified information was being sent via her system. To get a security clearance, you are told that even if something is not marked classified, you still have to be cautious and in many cases assume it will become classified.

Here's what makes her "I didn't knowingly..." excuse fall apart:
http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/08/03/what-everyone-with-a-top-secret-security-clearance-knows-or-should-know/

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
3. Of course she won't be indicted for mishandling classified information, neither was Petarous.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:04 PM
Apr 2016

Unlike the Petraeus episode that faded away Hillary's will continue, on and on. The republicans and the media will beat it to death.

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
5. Well he did plead guilty to leaking classified info. He got a slap on the wrist.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:09 PM
Apr 2016

But he was "punished", sorta. She could very well be indicted. Her "I didn't knowingly..." excuse is very weak--actually it is laughable.

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
7. Yeah leaked it to his woman, Hill mishandled it. When I think of these events and Snowden
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:13 PM
Apr 2016

I get furious. It's all a fucking joke.

Bob41213

(491 posts)
10. Hillary's case is going to be right out on center stage come September/October.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

I posted earlier that Guccifer's trial is set to begin in September (http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511734397). Does that sound like something that might get beat to death at the wrong time?

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
9. Why would I do that?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:17 PM
Apr 2016

Waste of time. Just bookmark what i said and check back in November. It's a prediction. If I'm wrong I'll own it.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
13. Fifty cents says she is out of the race before Memorial Day
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:23 PM
Apr 2016

due to "personal reasons" or some such excuse revolving around these issues.

It won't buy a cup of coffee these days, but it can be some interesting bragging rights.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
11. FBI is the opinion that matters since they KNOW the crimes they are
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

investigating while the rest of us are just speculating.

It's a fun parlor game though - "which laws and statutes did Hillary break?"

The idea that this is acceptable precedent is ... Interesting.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
14. Why did you title your post the exact OPPOSITE of what the article says?
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

There is some pretty damning stuff there. Thank you for sharing.

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
15. It's an exerpt from the article...
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:42 PM
Apr 2016

....using the article title, many people would not have bothered to read it.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
16. The guy lists half a dozen crimes with some pretty damning evidence.
Sun Apr 17, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

And his conclusions are pretty solid, but you led with the theory he was actually disputing.

Thank you for sharing - I had missed the public corruption leak from January.

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