Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:01 PM

kcjohn1 (751 posts)

More Maddow Hackory

I swore I wouldn't watch her anymore (couple of times now) but again I made the mistake tonight. She had this whole segment on "Sanders party of one" where she went detail how Sanders is not raising money for anyone else but himself. Hillary on the other hand is fund raising for other Democrats, and aint it odd Sanders isn't? She played ignorant on how this could be!!!

This story perfectly illustrates how she has sold her soul to be partisan hack. I don't even care if she supports Clinton, but for someone who claims to be student of politics, and is a "journalist" who does 15 minute segments on subjects to inform her viewers, this was blatant hack job.

1) I'll give her the benefit of not investigating or informing her viewers that Clinton is basically using the DNC to get around campaign finance laws, and just having her rich donors get around the $2,700 limit by laundering the money through state level democratic parties. All the money Hillary is raising is all about Hillary. For the purposes of this thread, lets skip this for now.

2) Most important point she could have made and didn't is why is Bernie not raising for other candidates? The obvious answer not mentioned by Maddow is HOW HE IS RAISING MONEY. Typically politicians raise money by holding fundraisers with RICH DONORS. See these rich guys can donate more than the $2,700, so when these rich people go these dinner parties, they donate $2,700, and at same time chip in another $25,000 to other campaigns/state parties. This is how people like the Clinton's get power within the party. They all these rich friends who can attend these fundraisers, and not only give them money, but also money to other causes.

How does Bernie raise his money? He doesn't do these fundraisers. Even if he did, no rich person is going to be attending to give him money. He raises money online. Do you think Hillary is giving away these funds to other people? HAHA.

You can even think this system is great, and nothing wrong or corrupting about it, but don't you think Maddow could have mentioned this? Just said its difficult for Bernie to raise money for anyone else because he does not run fundraisers like other politicians.

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85 replies	Author	Time	Post
More Maddow Hackory (Original post)	kcjohn1	Apr 2016	OP
I had he show on in the car	elljay	Apr 2016	#1
Didn't Jane Sanders JUST come on her show and debunk all that nonsense...	GeorgiaPeanuts	Apr 2016	#2
I heard Jane say that when Rachel asked her if Bernie was helping raise money for Dems down ballot	Samantha	Apr 2016	#16
Once she was Church for me	JackInGreen	Apr 2016	#3
Maddow is auditioning for Clinton's Press Secretary	montanacowboy	Apr 2016	#4
Ding ding ding... Winner winner chicken dinner...	Yurovsky	Apr 2016	#58
Bye Felicia!	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#70
I don't feel sorry for her. Maddow is dead to me. Matthews and Hayes too.	Enthusiast	Apr 2016	#69
HAddn't thought of that one	Ferd Berfel	Apr 2016	#78
Why did she even do that story?	Punkingal	Apr 2016	#5
Could it be money?	MrMickeysMom	Apr 2016	#46
MSNBC has really become unwatchable...	tokenlib	Apr 2016	#6
She's still trying to get Bernie's money?	pacalo	Apr 2016	#7
I watch her all the time	Dem2	Apr 2016	#8
Entertainment over truth...that's hardly "information"	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#31
Are you kidding me, there's no more truthful reporter in the entire world	Dem2	Apr 2016	#41
you'd have to speak over a hundred languages and follow the media in as many countries	carolinayellowdog	Apr 2016	#84
I said truthful	Dem2	Apr 2016	#85
This message was self-deleted by its author	agracie	Apr 2016	#79
Are you kidding me, there's no more truthful reporter in the entire world	Dem2	Apr 2016	#80
You haven't noticed how biased she (and the rest of MSNBC) is toward Hillary ?	agracie	Apr 2016	#82
What does that have to do with false information?	Dem2	Apr 2016	#83
And need we bring up "all" the Dems who have come out in support of Bernie?	Little_Wing	Apr 2016	#9
This is not what this is about	kcjohn1	Apr 2016	#11
I totally agree-she has lost her integrity	Little_Wing	Apr 2016	#14
You say that but PROVE it. Hillary's $18 Million "Victory Fund" could be spent helping her campaign	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#33
Many of us are donating to the down ticket. This month I	jwirr	Apr 2016	#10
Me too: Grayson, Feingod, Edwards and Canova! We think for ourselves and select carefully!	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#42
Exactly. For too long we have let the DNC, DSCC, DCCC and	jwirr	Apr 2016	#72
I was watching and had the EXACT same	beedle	Apr 2016	#12
Rachel Maddow is one of the best progressive voices out there.	Cali_Democrat	Apr 2016	#13
She used to be. nt	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#15
..still is! She's a rock!	Cali_Democrat	Apr 2016	#18
Obviously we disagree.	SusanCalvin	Apr 2016	#19
Loyalty is not going to get you good journalism or keep you informed.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#36
I was listening to Rachel when she was Bill Dwight's sidekick in Northampton.	Bonobo	Apr 2016	#17
Don't cry for me Argentina	SisterSarah	Apr 2016	#20
I wish she'd retire.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#37
Rachel who ? Once I ghost someone it's forever.	Impedimentus	Apr 2016	#21
Yep, somebody doesn't fawn over Sanders, and they must be a hack	mythology	Apr 2016	#22
No, once they fawn over any person in	sadoldgirl	Apr 2016	#23
I saw that! After watching her last nite to watch her interview with Jane I decided to watch tonite.	jillan	Apr 2016	#24
How many times did she say then same thing ...	GeorgeGist	Apr 2016	#25
Repeats and repeats and repeats...I guess those who still listen need repeating!	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#38
She puts out at least 2 facebook post a day that elevate Hill and demean Bernie	Sky Masterson	Apr 2016	#26
Her topic was fund raising for the Dems down-ticket--NOT how Bernie is raising	riversedge	Apr 2016	#27
Are you saying she never mentioned Bernie or Hillary???	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#30
Maddow's focus was on he promise Sanders made to fund raise, which he has NOT kept-that is the	riversedge	Apr 2016	#32
So she did do a hack job? You're easy. Who has Hillary helped? You don't know, do you?	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#39
RM=huge ego. Upstart who made it big...but her #s are erratic. Low impact on voters.See Ratings here	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#28
MSNBC is viewed by older, Establishment Dems. Their talking heads tell them what they want to hear.	reformist2	Apr 2016	#35
The Hill campaign wants to spin to make her mega-donors good and Bernie's broad support bad	GreatGazoo	Apr 2016	#29
She did have on a reporter (embedded? ) in Sander's campaign and she brought up the DSCC. Maddow	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#34
Thanks. People forgive RM her dishonesty. It is all about loyalty regardless of honesty.	snowy owl	Apr 2016	#40
The media has a fucking vendetta against Bernie	jfern	Apr 2016	#43
Once again Maddow does a true story	Trenzalore	Apr 2016	#44
A not completely true story. That's called being disengenuous. It's not journalism but propaganda.nt	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#45
She had his wife on last night	Trenzalore	Apr 2016	#47
This is specifically addressing Sanders not raising for down ticket Dems. Maddow pushing propaganda	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#49
I think it is a fair question	Trenzalore	Apr 2016	#50
So if she's this great journalist she thinks she is, why hasn't she done it?	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#53
"...burn her as a witch"?!?	chervilant	Apr 2016	#63
Worship Bernie or Bern!!!!	JoePhilly	Apr 2016	#77
Party of one, indeed. Well said, Rachel. Sanders overtly scorns the	Surya Gayatri	Apr 2016	#48
Which is a whole dump truck full of manure. She should do an investigation on ALL candidates $$.	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#51
I hope it landed on your lawn...	Surya Gayatri	Apr 2016	#54
I'm a treehugging fucking Liberal so recycling shit as garden fertilizer is what we do.	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#55
Bernie does fund raising differently.	Vinca	Apr 2016	#52
Facts really scare you-that is sad	Gothmog	Apr 2016	#56
You guys forgot he's trying to win the 2016 Presidential election. Kinda takes a little money to do	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#59
Do you really believe that this explanation will help with super delegates?	Gothmog	Apr 2016	#64
There are TWO sets of facts.	nc4bo	Apr 2016	#66
Good luck selling that weak but funny explanation to super delegates	Gothmog	Apr 2016	#73
congrats, you have proven the superdelegates are bought and paid for	questionseverything	Apr 2016	#75
Think of the ratings!	Octafish	Apr 2016	#57
She's a hack. She has alienated a huge chunk of her potential audience forever.	GoneFishin	Apr 2016	#60
I too swore	SmittynMo	Apr 2016	#61
If you want to be a member of a party	wilt the stilt	Apr 2016	#62
I try to make a habit to bring up her Hackery on every facebook post TRMS post.	Sky Masterson	Apr 2016	#65
He has been raising money for the Democrats in the usual way every other year	pdsimdars	Apr 2016	#67
Super delegates	pdsimdars	Apr 2016	#68
I'm going to start calling these posts "Voices From Under The Bus."	wyldwolf	Apr 2016	#71
There was a good point to be made in the story , but Maddow didn't make it.	Orsino	Apr 2016	#74
Rachel is bullying Bernie to give his money to the DNC	Cheese Sandwich	Apr 2016	#76
I don't know why Hillary supporters like her either. From what I've seen, she never promotes	jillan	Apr 2016	#81

Response to kcjohn1 (Original post)

Fri Apr 8, 2016, 09:05 PM

elljay (1,178 posts)

1. I had he show on in the car

for about two minutes, then thought better of it and switched to music. Sounds like I did the right thing. I can deal with someone supporting Hilary's policies du jour, but I am so tired of the spin. It insults the intelligence of informed people.

More Maddow Hackory

1. I had he show on in the car

2. Didn't Jane Sanders JUST come on her show and debunk all that nonsense...

16. I heard Jane say that when Rachel asked her if Bernie was helping raise money for Dems down ballot

3. Once she was Church for me

4. Maddow is auditioning for Clinton's Press Secretary

58. Ding ding ding... Winner winner chicken dinner...

70. Bye Felicia!

69. I don't feel sorry for her. Maddow is dead to me. Matthews and Hayes too.

78. HAddn't thought of that one

5. Why did she even do that story?

46. Could it be money?

6. MSNBC has really become unwatchable...

7. She's still trying to get Bernie's money?

8. I watch her all the time

31. Entertainment over truth...that's hardly "information"

41. Are you kidding me, there's no more truthful reporter in the entire world

84. you'd have to speak over a hundred languages and follow the media in as many countries

85. I said truthful

80. Are you kidding me, there's no more truthful reporter in the entire world

82. You haven't noticed how biased she (and the rest of MSNBC) is toward Hillary ?

83. What does that have to do with false information?

9. And need we bring up "all" the Dems who have come out in support of Bernie?

11. This is not what this is about

14. I totally agree-she has lost her integrity

33. You say that but PROVE it. Hillary's $18 Million "Victory Fund" could be spent helping her campaign

10. Many of us are donating to the down ticket. This month I

42. Me too: Grayson, Feingod, Edwards and Canova! We think for ourselves and select carefully!

72. Exactly. For too long we have let the DNC, DSCC, DCCC and

12. I was watching and had the EXACT same

13. Rachel Maddow is one of the best progressive voices out there.

15. She used to be. nt

18. ..still is! She's a rock!

19. Obviously we disagree.

36. Loyalty is not going to get you good journalism or keep you informed.

17. I was listening to Rachel when she was Bill Dwight's sidekick in Northampton.

20. Don't cry for me Argentina

37. I wish she'd retire.

21. Rachel who ? Once I ghost someone it's forever.

22. Yep, somebody doesn't fawn over Sanders, and they must be a hack

23. No, once they fawn over any person in

24. I saw that! After watching her last nite to watch her interview with Jane I decided to watch tonite.

25. How many times did she say then same thing ...

38. Repeats and repeats and repeats...I guess those who still listen need repeating!

26. She puts out at least 2 facebook post a day that elevate Hill and demean Bernie

27. Her topic was fund raising for the Dems down-ticket--NOT how Bernie is raising

30. Are you saying she never mentioned Bernie or Hillary???

32. Maddow's focus was on he promise Sanders made to fund raise, which he has NOT kept-that is the

39. So she did do a hack job? You're easy. Who has Hillary helped? You don't know, do you?

28. RM=huge ego. Upstart who made it big...but her #s are erratic. Low impact on voters.See Ratings here

35. MSNBC is viewed by older, Establishment Dems. Their talking heads tell them what they want to hear.

29. The Hill campaign wants to spin to make her mega-donors good and Bernie's broad support bad

34. She did have on a reporter (embedded? ) in Sander's campaign and she brought up the DSCC. Maddow

40. Thanks. People forgive RM her dishonesty. It is all about loyalty regardless of honesty.

43. The media has a fucking vendetta against Bernie

44. Once again Maddow does a true story

45. A not completely true story. That's called being disengenuous. It's not journalism but propaganda.nt

47. She had his wife on last night

49. This is specifically addressing Sanders not raising for down ticket Dems. Maddow pushing propaganda

50. I think it is a fair question

53. So if she's this great journalist she thinks she is, why hasn't she done it?

63. "...burn her as a witch"?!?

77. Worship Bernie or Bern!!!!

48. Party of one, indeed. Well said, Rachel. Sanders overtly scorns the

51. Which is a whole dump truck full of manure. She should do an investigation on ALL candidates $$.

54. I hope it landed on your lawn...

55. I'm a treehugging fucking Liberal so recycling shit as garden fertilizer is what we do.

52. Bernie does fund raising differently.

56. Facts really scare you-that is sad

59. You guys forgot he's trying to win the 2016 Presidential election. Kinda takes a little money to do

64. Do you really believe that this explanation will help with super delegates?

66. There are TWO sets of facts.

73. Good luck selling that weak but funny explanation to super delegates

75. congrats, you have proven the superdelegates are bought and paid for

57. Think of the ratings!

60. She's a hack. She has alienated a huge chunk of her potential audience forever.

61. I too swore

62. If you want to be a member of a party

65. I try to make a habit to bring up her Hackery on every facebook post TRMS post.

67. He has been raising money for the Democrats in the usual way every other year