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madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:07 AM Apr 2016

People, please get a grip!

Reading the Latest Threads page is giving me a headache. We are all democrats and need to chill out. Can everyone please remember who we actually need to be worried about winning the election in November? Of course everyone wants their candidate to win and thinks that the person they support is better qualified, but come on. Neither Hillary or Bernie are the devil.

Peace.

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People, please get a grip! (Original Post) madaboutharry Apr 2016 OP
Well, at least Bernie isn't. There's some question about Hillary at this point. nt revbones Apr 2016 #1
You still trying to peddle your bullshit here? JTFrog Apr 2016 #5
Really, I made a crack about something mentioned in the OP revbones Apr 2016 #9
In the words of one of my all time favorite DUer's: JTFrog Apr 2016 #16
Takes one to know one. But you're really showing off the intellect of Hillary followers aren't ya? revbones Apr 2016 #17
You mean compared to the useful idiots who have allied themselves with some of the most disgusting JTFrog Apr 2016 #29
Yes. revbones Apr 2016 #33
You just called Hillary a right wing piece of shit? Dude get the fuck out of here. JTFrog Apr 2016 #40
I just twisted your words around in a jumble. Don't use them if someone can't repeat them. revbones Apr 2016 #44
Go away. n/t JTFrog Apr 2016 #65
Aye-aye captain! Oh wait, you're not the captain and can't issues orders... phbbt! nt revbones Apr 2016 #66
And you are here --- why? madamesilverspurs Apr 2016 #30
What's happened to him? potone Apr 2016 #74
Hillary is bringing this on herself. Her staff said she would disqualify and destroy Bernie's liberal_at_heart Apr 2016 #2
She needs to watch her tone! seattleite Apr 2016 #4
exactly dana_b Apr 2016 #8
whic person on her staff said this? nt msongs Apr 2016 #18
see post #34 /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #37
He never says who told him that Dem2 Apr 2016 #49
Ummm he's embedded in the campaign, the standard answer is "the campaign is..." Dragonfli Apr 2016 #55
Yes indeed, the irony of saying I'm into some tin foil hat stuff Dem2 Apr 2016 #57
It was not an opinion show host, it was the guy covering and embedded as such with her campaign Dragonfli Apr 2016 #59
LMAO Dem2 Apr 2016 #61
I meant it sincerely, but even tho advice can be given honestly, it can also be rejected rudely /nt Dragonfli Apr 2016 #63
Very true, she is the one that needs to get a grip Dragonfli Apr 2016 #34
you'd hear the same kind of stuff at football games, demigoddess Apr 2016 #67
Language hurts. Families of Sandy Hook victims are condemning her use of their pain for liberal_at_heart Apr 2016 #68
agreed. runaway hero Apr 2016 #3
The ignore fuction has been very useful to me. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #6
Obviously timmymoff Apr 2016 #26
same here. i never DesertFlower Apr 2016 #31
I think after tonight it is time to add more. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #32
Ignore is for cowards Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #80
The Hillary campaign said party unity will have to wait jfern Apr 2016 #7
I'm with her. Finally. Unify later. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #10
Me too. I'm with her. Unify later.. nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #13
How do you plan to unify? Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #21
Oh well.. fun n serious Apr 2016 #24
And so... Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #78
Yep. BERNIE. nt fun n serious Apr 2016 #81
It's Hillary's camp that say Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #82
Many of teh young'uns are really not getting that ancient reference to 1968 nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #45
I'll post an article about the 1968 Democratic convention... Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #83
Two mstakes. baldguy Apr 2016 #11
I can see that.. fun n serious Apr 2016 #15
bernie is an independent running FOR the democratic party nominee AND his own senate seat as msongs Apr 2016 #22
He filed with the FEC as a Democrat for the Presidential run. Hissyspit Apr 2016 #39
I see two different enemies of the same corporatist camp timmymoff Apr 2016 #28
The Trump campaign thanks you for your support. baldguy Apr 2016 #41
I don't support the trump campaign, nor do I support the Hillary campaign. timmymoff Apr 2016 #43
It's a winner-take-all contest. baldguy Apr 2016 #46
You sell fear like a republican timmymoff Apr 2016 #48
And you want to "Make America Great Again". baldguy Apr 2016 #53
Selling fear yet again? timmymoff Apr 2016 #54
Your candidate may not agree with you. HassleCat Apr 2016 #12
Its too late. Bernie has brainwashed folks with all his "free" stuff talk. timlot Apr 2016 #14
And Hillary is like a winning lottery ticket for the Military Industrial Complex Fumesucker Apr 2016 #19
Rinse and repeat. bernie is the one voting billions for the MIC every year and in return he gets msongs Apr 2016 #23
Yeah. Hillary never voted for any of that while in the Senate. neverforget Apr 2016 #56
+1 Lucinda Apr 2016 #72
Imagine what a young BernieBro might chose RobertEarl Apr 2016 #36
That's jus disingenuous Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #25
Free Republic is thataway ---> Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #27
Thanks for the right-wing talking point. Hissyspit Apr 2016 #35
Not all of us are Democrats. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #20
It became too late after Hillary Clinton hired David Brock for "outreach". delrem Apr 2016 #38
"Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill in Bid to Aid Justice Thomas" Hissyspit Apr 2016 #75
Im sorry, but Hillary has just crossed that line and there's no going back from that litlbilly Apr 2016 #42
I can't believe how Hillary went and did that. I apologize but she has gone too far. Xyzse Apr 2016 #47
You are right, none of them are the devil. But the phony attacks against Bernie are getting to me. phleshdef Apr 2016 #50
Hillary declared war on her own party Hydra Apr 2016 #51
dino's are democrats SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #52
I tried AgerolanAmerican Apr 2016 #58
A pie fight scene from Marx brothers movie felix_numinous Apr 2016 #60
I have no intention of taking him seriously anymore. Beacool Apr 2016 #62
Check your wording please. jamwich Apr 2016 #64
I usually respond at some point madaboutharry Apr 2016 #69
Have a beer Tragl1 Apr 2016 #70
I've also grown tired... WiffenPoof Apr 2016 #71
We are all not democrats.....we may vote democrat, doesn't mean we identify as such.. pantsonfire Apr 2016 #73
Each of us wants the best person to win. snowy owl Apr 2016 #76
We are fighting ag a conservative DINO & FOR what it means to be a Democrat. RiverLover Apr 2016 #77
Third Way Hillary as bad as most of the GOP HughLefty1 Apr 2016 #79
 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
5. You still trying to peddle your bullshit here?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:11 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary is the devil?

Why don't you just go play outside and let the grown ups have a discussion.



 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
9. Really, I made a crack about something mentioned in the OP
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:13 AM
Apr 2016

and you assume I'm saying she's really the devil? You guys are pretty silly.

My assumption would be that the devil if he existed, would have more class.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
16. In the words of one of my all time favorite DUer's:
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:17 AM
Apr 2016

"You're A Special Little Snowflake, Fella, Ain'tcha"?

GDP sure could use a good dose of The Magistrate.



 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
17. Takes one to know one. But you're really showing off the intellect of Hillary followers aren't ya?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:19 AM
Apr 2016
 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
29. You mean compared to the useful idiots who have allied themselves with some of the most disgusting
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:26 AM
Apr 2016

right wing pieces of shit because they are so blinded by their irrational hatred of Hillary? The brilliance and compassion of the Bernie or Bust revolution is splendiferous.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
33. Yes.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:32 AM
Apr 2016

"allied themselves with some of the most disgusting right wing pieces of shit because they are so blinded by their irrational hatred of Hillary"

Wow. Let's play word jumble...

Shuffling your brilliant words around a bit, we get... "You mean compared to the the most disgusting right wing piece of shit Hillary?"

Seriously though, my hope is that somewhere deep down, you are intelligent enough to know that not everything negative about Hillary is some right wing smear. I'm just not sure why you seem to think she's such a paragon of virtue and everything negative just doesn't exist.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
40. You just called Hillary a right wing piece of shit? Dude get the fuck out of here.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:43 AM
Apr 2016

Go peddle your bullshit someplace else. You contribute nothing but regurgitated right wing propaganda and bashing and trashing Hillary, her supporters and the Democratic party. You sure don't seem to give a fuck about electing Democrats. I seriously doubt this is your first account on DU. Why do you keep coming back?



 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
44. I just twisted your words around in a jumble. Don't use them if someone can't repeat them.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:47 AM
Apr 2016

I care about real Democrats, it's a shame you don't and support Hillary.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. Hillary is bringing this on herself. Her staff said she would disqualify and destroy Bernie's
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:09 AM
Apr 2016

campaign and the very next day she accuses him of putting gun manufacturers ahead of the victims of Sandy Hook. She is bringing this backlash on herself. She wants scorched Earth. She will get scorched Earth.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
8. exactly
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:12 AM
Apr 2016

I hope Bernie just tells the truth about her. That's enough because the truth will be damaging enough in her case.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
55. Ummm he's embedded in the campaign, the standard answer is "the campaign is..."
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:05 AM
Apr 2016

You are into some tin foil shit here if you think he is "making stuff up", or that he should be like the first one ever to say something other than "the campaign...." If he was making it all up, which appears to be your CT, then the campaign would not allow him to tag along and cover them to get their message out, they would also immediately publicly renounce his statements as lies.

wow man, you are so, I don't know, CTish maybe?

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
57. Yes indeed, the irony of saying I'm into some tin foil hat stuff
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:10 AM
Apr 2016

after what I read here daily is so outrageous that I am left (almost) speechless.

So CNN, MSNBC, Rachel, et al, get under that bus! Oh, some reporter makes a statement I want to make hay with "oh, well, of course his word is as good as gold - ignore the articles he's written showing extreme bias of late".

So yeah, the irony is so thick I may not even be able to hit the enter key to post this.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
59. It was not an opinion show host, it was the guy covering and embedded as such with her campaign
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:21 AM
Apr 2016

His entire function is to be used by the network for access to the campaign, and to give her campaign access to the network on what they put out.

You need a break my friend, really, you are starting to lose it, I,ve been there, I know how it can be - I got that way for a week or so in '08.

Take a short break and your advocacy will improve as well as your perspective and mood. I am saying this sincerely as one human being to another, in the end it's just a campaign, your life will live on after it, you just need a few days break and you WILL feel a lot better, and be a much more effective advocate for your beliefs.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
63. I meant it sincerely, but even tho advice can be given honestly, it can also be rejected rudely /nt
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:26 AM
Apr 2016

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
67. you'd hear the same kind of stuff at football games,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:50 AM
Apr 2016

basketball games, card games and quite a few other sports. Language is language, not opening fire with an AK-47.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
68. Language hurts. Families of Sandy Hook victims are condemning her use of their pain for
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:53 AM
Apr 2016

her own political gain. Is what Trump says just language?

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
26. Obviously
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:25 AM
Apr 2016

you ignore fracking, keystone, trade deals, wall st. contributions, lobbyists, her bankruptcy vote, her terrible regime change decisions. So I would agree with you, Ignore is a useful function for you.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
21. How do you plan to unify?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

Many Sanders supporters will just sit out the election if Hillary is nominated. As a matter of fact some long time Democrats that I know will opt out of the party altogether if she's nominated. I don't remember a more divisive Primary....well except for 1968.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
82. It's Hillary's camp that say
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:59 AM
Apr 2016

"unity later" after planned abusive behavior....as if Sanders supporters are codependents.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
45. Many of teh young'uns are really not getting that ancient reference to 1968
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:52 AM
Apr 2016

I was not conscious back then, not even in this country, but from history reading... fully agreed.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
83. I'll post an article about the 1968 Democratic convention...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:02 AM
Apr 2016

just for educational purposes. I was a McCarthy supporter even though I was not old enough to vote. 21 was the voting age at that time; at least we got that changed.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
11. Two mstakes.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:14 AM
Apr 2016

1) "We" are not all Democrats.

2) Those that aren't view Clinton & the Democrats as bigger enemies than Trump, Cruz & the Republicans.

msongs

(67,405 posts)
22. bernie is an independent running FOR the democratic party nominee AND his own senate seat as
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:21 AM
Apr 2016

an independent. 2 for one

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
39. He filed with the FEC as a Democrat for the Presidential run.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:39 AM
Apr 2016

Last edited Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:19 AM - Edit history (1)

And has gotten millions of Democrat's votes.

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
43. I don't support the trump campaign, nor do I support the Hillary campaign.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:46 AM
Apr 2016

Both could run on the republican platform and both do in some aspects.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
46. It's a winner-take-all contest.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

If you don't support the Democratic nominee, the advantage automatically goes to the Republican.

Get used to loving those tiny, tiny Trump hands.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
12. Your candidate may not agree with you.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:16 AM
Apr 2016

The latest word is, win now, unify later. I take that to mean getting a grip is not a concern right now.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
14. Its too late. Bernie has brainwashed folks with all his "free" stuff talk.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:17 AM
Apr 2016

Bernie is like a lottery ticket to alot of college aged young people and old like minded socialist.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
19. And Hillary is like a winning lottery ticket for the Military Industrial Complex
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:20 AM
Apr 2016

Who would I rather see get a winning lottery ticket, college age young people or weapons manufacturers?

msongs

(67,405 posts)
23. Rinse and repeat. bernie is the one voting billions for the MIC every year and in return he gets
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:22 AM
Apr 2016

hardware

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
36. Imagine what a young BernieBro might chose
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016

The possibility of getting drafted and shot at, or the possibility of getting educated. Gee, and one wonders why BernieBros might exist?

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
25. That's jus disingenuous
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:24 AM
Apr 2016

...and will just drive Sanders supporters away from her.
It sounds more like a Republican comment.

Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
35. Thanks for the right-wing talking point.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:36 AM
Apr 2016

We don't get enough of those here.

"Brainwashed..." Sheesh.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
38. It became too late after Hillary Clinton hired David Brock for "outreach".
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:38 AM
Apr 2016

There can't possibly be a stupider decision than that.
But it's her style.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
47. I can't believe how Hillary went and did that. I apologize but she has gone too far.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

You do not accuse another Democrat or a Primary candidate with such a low blow.
Accusing someone of siding with the NRA in regards to Sandy Hook? I can see that coming from one of her supporters, but from her tweet itself?

By sending out that tweet, she absolutely started this, and I thought I could vote for her, but this is really making it hard for me to even consider her at all with this vile pettiness. (Please note, that I will vote and work for the local elections no matter what, but at this time, I just can't understand why she would cross such a line.)

Realize, that she is already disliked by a vast swath of voters, the Independents, she bands Republicans like no other to try to defeat her, and then she does something like that?

Why would she do something so childish and dumb?
Just to score political points?

I am sorry, you just don't do that.

Sanders' twitter response, just added to the flames, but this should not have started to begin with. There are so many other valid points of attack. Using tragedy in this manner is abhorrent.

Quite disappointed.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
50. You are right, none of them are the devil. But the phony attacks against Bernie are getting to me.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

I'm being reminded every day why I supported Barack Obama in 2008 (and honestly, I wish I could just vote for him again).

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
51. Hillary declared war on her own party
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

She's basically declared that the party and the people in it are less important to her than her need to sit in the Oval Office.

Don't worry about November- She obviously isn't.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
62. I have no intention of taking him seriously anymore.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:25 AM
Apr 2016

I was outraged when his campaign came up with the idea of suggesting that super delegates should change their allegiance to him, even if Hillary arrives at the convention with more pledged delegates. Now he has the nerve to call her unqualified to be president.

Well, I don't even consider him to be a Democrat, let alone qualified to become the party's standard bearer.

jamwich

(2 posts)
64. Check your wording please.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:36 AM
Apr 2016

You misrepresented his words there. He said that after gathering as many delegates as he could before reaching the convention, he would then ask the super delegates to consider changing their allegiance in states where he won by a sizable amount. What's not fair about that? It would more fairly represent the voters in that state.

 

pantsonfire

(1,306 posts)
73. We are all not democrats.....we may vote democrat, doesn't mean we identify as such..
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:54 AM
Apr 2016

Is the Democratic in Democratic Underground, reserved for only loyalists to the democrat party?

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
76. Each of us wants the best person to win.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:28 AM
Apr 2016

It's a campaign. Just like 2008. Why worry about it? Do you really think the republicans can win this year? They're having more trouble. I do worry about Kasich.

HughLefty1

(231 posts)
79. Third Way Hillary as bad as most of the GOP
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 09:43 AM
Apr 2016

OK the exception is creepy Cruz, that guy is downright dangerous. If he and HRC were the GE nominees *ugh* I would rush to my local voting booth in November to vote HRC. Otherwise I really don't see much difference between HRC's policies and the GOP establishment.

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