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reddread

(6,896 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:47 AM Apr 2016

is there an uglier tone than that which hides behind racism?

pathetic, phony remarks about whiteness in supporters.

that is racist campaigning.

but the silliest thing so far is the massive hypocrisy about tone control.

congratulations, you worthless contributors to an important dialogue.

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is there an uglier tone than that which hides behind racism? (Original Post) reddread Apr 2016 OP
Calling blacks that didn't vote for Bernie "low information voters" is actual racism. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #1
did that come from the Sanders campaign? reddread Apr 2016 #2
Not if you consider anyone who votes for her... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #3
If voters don't know your candidate, that is your candidate's fault. That's what campaigning is for CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #4
Can't reach everyone face to face... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #5
Again, your candidate is bad and you should feel bad. CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #6
you can type that? reddread Apr 2016 #7
I will question voters who don't take time to look into candidates... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #8
You're maligning people for not living like you, don't whine about it being "personal." CalvinballPro Apr 2016 #10
That's an awful lot of assumptions about me in one post... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #11
Racism as it applies to white people in America is not possible. LexVegas Apr 2016 #9
sorry, Ive been to LexVegas reddread Apr 2016 #12
White people in the USA can be racists, not minorities. Racism is practiced by those in power. LexVegas Apr 2016 #13
thats the single biggest load of bullshit ever dumped. reddread Apr 2016 #14
and completely racist reddread Apr 2016 #16
Is this in reference to POC being called "low information voters?" LanternWaste Apr 2016 #15
No. Its whining about "reverse racism". nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #17
comprehension would reveal the topic is racist campaigning reddread Apr 2016 #18
Agreed esp when many of those same posters mention Bernie's religion here & on twitter...I have seen jillan Apr 2016 #19
thats a no no here reddread Apr 2016 #20
 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
1. Calling blacks that didn't vote for Bernie "low information voters" is actual racism.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:49 AM
Apr 2016

"White people are under siege" is another right-wing talking point being echoed by Libertarians for Bernie around here.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
3. Not if you consider anyone who votes for her...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:56 AM
Apr 2016

...a low information voter. For my part, I don't think many low information voters support her...I think many mis-informed voters vote for her.

Also, this article (http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-sanders-black-voters-20160226-story.html), in the first few paragraphs outlines the name recognition problem Sanders has faced in South Carolina and other locations. Is that enough to label someone "low information"? I'll leave that up to others.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
4. If voters don't know your candidate, that is your candidate's fault. That's what campaigning is for
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 10:59 AM
Apr 2016

Your candidate is bad, and you should feel bad.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
5. Can't reach everyone face to face...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:01 AM
Apr 2016

...and if people aren't willing to take time to look into things, that's on them.

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
6. Again, your candidate is bad and you should feel bad.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:14 AM
Apr 2016

Stop blaming voters for your bad candidate. It is up to your candidate to convince people to take a look at him. If they choose otherwise, it's his failure. People have the right to not support a candidate, even if they "take time to look into things."

You're just unable to process that people could see Bernie's record and find it insufficient evidence that he's ready to be President. Your error, not anyone else's.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
7. you can type that?
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:16 AM
Apr 2016

I hope to see you repeat the feat after the next few results roll in.

process that.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
8. I will question voters who don't take time to look into candidates...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:20 AM
Apr 2016

...yet vote anyway. There isn't anything wrong with that and you're being awfully personal about this.

Given his low name recognition at the start of the campaign I think Sanders has done fairly well getting himself out there. Whether it's enough remains to be seen. That is a separate issue from people like the one in the article who will not take time to do their own looking, something we should encourage everyone to do no matter where your decision ultimately ends up.

Do you believe that all Hillary supporters are fully informed in every way possible? Do you believe that about Sanders supporters?

 

CalvinballPro

(1,019 posts)
10. You're maligning people for not living like you, don't whine about it being "personal."
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:27 AM
Apr 2016

Assuming that everyone has the same time, access, or inclination that you do about politics is a mistake on your part. You seem as bad at this argument as your candidate is at campaigning, and that's saying something because Bernie Sanders is really bad at campaigning.

The right to vote is not subject to a pop quiz. What you're talking about sounds disgustingly like a political literacy test, which has been outlawed, in case you forgot. But why should I be surprised that someone who disrespects black voters wants to re-institute literacy tests for voting?

I can vote whether I know all the candidates and their positions or not, and you have no say in whether that's right or wrong. Because my rights are not subject to your, or anyone's, approval. You do not get to decide, unilaterally, that black voters are "uninformed" because they didn't vote for Sanders. For all you know, they read all about him and still didn't want to vote for him.

Politics is not your parents. It owes you nothing, and will not placate you to make you feel better.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
11. That's an awful lot of assumptions about me in one post...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:33 AM
Apr 2016

...and they're all too ridiculous to even respond to. Literacy tests? Restricting voters? Nothing of that sort is in any of my posts.

LexVegas

(6,060 posts)
9. Racism as it applies to white people in America is not possible.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:24 AM
Apr 2016

I thought the term you guys used is "reverse racism".

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
12. sorry, Ive been to LexVegas
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:41 AM
Apr 2016

great place to purchase slaves back in the day.
I dont think the descendants are quite over it yet.
I never really felt the results of racism until I ended up there.
nobody is immune from being judged by the color of their skin.
it is never the correct thing to do, and no Democratic Party members
should be playing with those cards.

LexVegas

(6,060 posts)
13. White people in the USA can be racists, not minorities. Racism is practiced by those in power.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

Sorry that this gives some people a sad.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
14. thats the single biggest load of bullshit ever dumped.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:45 AM
Apr 2016

Id say consider yourself discredited and ignored,
but
you really never had much credibility.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
16. and completely racist
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:49 AM
Apr 2016

thats the problem with racists working the race game.
they do not know which end is up
because they have to lie to themselves the whole time.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. Is this in reference to POC being called "low information voters?"
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 11:46 AM
Apr 2016

Is this in reference to POC being called "low information voters", "suffering from Stockholm Syndrome", or supporting South Carolina's "master-slave relationship?"

jillan

(39,451 posts)
19. Agreed esp when many of those same posters mention Bernie's religion here & on twitter...I have seen
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:25 PM
Apr 2016

a couple of really ugly anti-semitic rants...

but we are supposed to overlook those.

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