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seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:07 PM Mar 2016

With a Trump presidency at stake, white liberals really need to check their privilege.

If you’re worth $50 million dollars, and are a successful white actress in Hollywood, it really doesn’t matter who the president is: your life isn’t going to change much. That’s the epitome of what privilege is in this country. Minorities, women, members of the LGBT community, and any other group that Trump has targeted can’t say the same thing.

So, can someone please tell that to actress Susan Sarandon? Because I’m not sure if she knows this or not, but Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee. He has the support of 45 percent of the Republican base, and has won New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada, three states that have predicted the eventual Republican nominee for years.

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But for the rest of us, possibly letting a fascist maniac into the White House out of spite is a huge slap in the face. While conservatives openly flaunt their selfish privilege with their banker friends and Koch backers, “liberals” like Sarandon take a vindictive, passive approach to the issue at hand.

I want every progressive to repeat after me: Hillary Clinton is nowhere near “as bad” as Donald Trump. While Sarandon and her purist minions decide to “see what happens,” there’s millions of Muslims and immigrants who will literally be tagged, monitored, and in some cases, sent back to country they came from, thus splitting up their families.

http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politics/with-a-trump-presidency-at-stake-white-liberals-really-need-to-check-their-privilege/
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With a Trump presidency at stake, white liberals really need to check their privilege. (Original Post) seabeyond Mar 2016 OP
Check yours first. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #1
I already have, hence my ability to recognize it and post this Op. seabeyond Mar 2016 #19
Nah I don't think so Kalidurga Mar 2016 #21
I do not need your approval for it to be so, Kalidurga, ya think? seabeyond Mar 2016 #24
Of course not. Even if I had never read this OP Kalidurga Mar 2016 #26
Only women who support Hillary are true feminists. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #36
Yep I am going to hell. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #38
So is Susan. She was just called a commie, she was slut shamed, they said she "latched" onto men- beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #40
I've seen crowd shots Kalidurga Mar 2016 #41
Why do her white supporters think they don't benefit from white privilege? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #43
#Berniemademewhiter Kalidurga Mar 2016 #44
LOLOLOL! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #45
I have a feeling this will not go well..nt mariawr Mar 2016 #2
Exactly, too many hateful people here... scscholar Mar 2016 #6
I know the consequences nichomachus Mar 2016 #30
Hillary as the nominee assures trump wins GE berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #3
You must vote for Hillary....you must obey! Human101948 Mar 2016 #4
K&R!!!! Spot on!!!! UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #5
The rich fucks pushing free trade need to check THIER privilage. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #7
Yep. And also the rich fucks pretending that TPP is good for average Americans need to check their GoneFishin Mar 2016 #14
Agreed. So let's all vote for a candidate that represents all of us, Bernie Sanders, rather than one GoneFishin Mar 2016 #8
Then vote for the candidate who has a better chance against Trump. demmiblue Mar 2016 #9
Bernie outpolls Hillary versus Trump. Broward Mar 2016 #10
Says dweeby white Hillshill whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #11
Jury results Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #29
Thanks for the info whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #34
As they already have ....... polly7 Mar 2016 #49
Flagged by Hillarians for telling the truth. TRY GOOGLING HILLARY CLINTON KISSINGER, Hillarians! Zira Mar 2016 #53
Instead of devoting time on Rat Fuckery Gwhittey Mar 2016 #12
As I have said in other posts... CompanyFirstSergeant Mar 2016 #13
A generality - let it go. Too many distractions already. snowy owl Mar 2016 #20
Welcome to DU! I'm pretty new here too. Zira Mar 2016 #56
Thank you, but... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #64
TRUMP! A media-made monster. And you all fall for it. Cruz in worse. snowy owl Mar 2016 #15
This is a racist op metroins Mar 2016 #16
I prefer... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #65
Or the rest should wake up and join Bernie. dogman Mar 2016 #17
As a Minority, please dont speak for me...it's Bernie or Bust! nt. quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #18
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #22
Unrec. demmiblue Mar 2016 #25
Many have been checking it for years...A fat lot of good it's done Armstead Mar 2016 #23
And Hillary's net worth is over $30 million, what's the point? elias7 Mar 2016 #27
I detest this approach NowSam Mar 2016 #28
Its the biggest crock of bullshit going. 'Vote for this terrible candidate, so we don't get that.... Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #31
What a offensive op,shame on you. libtodeath Mar 2016 #32
My privilege is 27 bucks. The Midway Rebel Mar 2016 #33
What a stupid blog, this idiot is lying about Susan and Michael Moore too. Is this SpamDan? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #35
I had tea and snacks with my 70 year old good friend. DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #37
Benjamin Dixon addresed this issue BoringWilli Mar 2016 #39
McRacism!!! Brilliant! Omg he totally nailed it!!! That is the op to a T. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #42
The Black Misleadership Class Meteor Man Mar 2016 #57
Why is "liberals" (like Sarandon) in quotes? polly7 Mar 2016 #46
Only people who support Hillary are liberals. And feminists. And true Dems. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #48
Ahh ...... gotcha. polly7 Mar 2016 #50
Bloggers are a riot, so puffed up and full of themselves. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #51
Just vaguely .... was she used here for teaching purposes? polly7 Mar 2016 #52
She preached McRacism! beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #61
LOL..... there are a few of them working very hard at it .... she must have stood out! polly7 Mar 2016 #62
You got it, get on the love train and lets run over all the trumps!! uponit7771 Mar 2016 #60
agreed! these people need to grow up and pick the candidate who is NOT under FBI investigation and Vote2016 Mar 2016 #47
What did she say? HassleCat Mar 2016 #54
Millions of bombed out refugees CanadaexPat Mar 2016 #55
I did. You'll be relieved to know that I'm perfect. So we can now avoid this awkwardness.n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2016 #58
Well, this is convincing. frylock Mar 2016 #59
I have my doubts now that Trump will be their nominee. . . Stargleamer Mar 2016 #63
I find myself... CompanyFirstSergeant Apr 2016 #66
JFC - I can't believe I actually clicked on this OP. TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #67
Trump will not be the nominee and thus is a failure as a boogyman. nt Autumn Apr 2016 #68

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
21. Nah I don't think so
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

It's a very condescending and preachy op. I have seen all the down punching that is done here. And this is another example of that. I see very few posts as to why anyone should vote for Hillary rather than against Donald.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
26. Of course not. Even if I had never read this OP
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:40 PM
Mar 2016

The fact you drip with condescension instead of trying to understand the opposition says it all. And you would still be the way you are if I had seen this or responded.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
36. Only women who support Hillary are true feminists.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:10 PM
Mar 2016

Everyone else is suffering from privilege.

Because we hate America.

Or something.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
40. So is Susan. She was just called a commie, she was slut shamed, they said she "latched" onto men-
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:21 PM
Mar 2016

the younger the better, called vile names...

So much hatred for a liberal woman, it's unhinged. The way they're attacking her I can't tell these people apart from Trump supporters.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
43. Why do her white supporters think they don't benefit from white privilege?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

And that they can lecture us about racism?

Bernie-bros and Bernie-brahs are somehow more privileged? The logic escapes me.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
30. I know the consequences
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

Of voting for Hillary. Endless war. Death, destruction. Wall Street giveaways.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
4. You must vote for Hillary....you must obey!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

Of course your life won't change much if she gets elected...but we can threaten you with excruciating pain if you are thinking of any other candidate.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
5. K&R!!!! Spot on!!!!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:10 PM
Mar 2016

Of course they will say "I'm not going to be guilted into voting for blah blah blah...." and you know what it is absolutely their right and their choice, but notice you don't see POC sharing this sentiment. So there's definitely truth to the white privilege aspect of it. Me as a gay Black/Latino male I don't have that privilege.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
14. Yep. And also the rich fucks pretending that TPP is good for average Americans need to check their
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:17 PM
Mar 2016

privilege too.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
8. Agreed. So let's all vote for a candidate that represents all of us, Bernie Sanders, rather than one
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:14 PM
Mar 2016

that half of the voters don't trust.

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
9. Then vote for the candidate who has a better chance against Trump.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:14 PM
Mar 2016

That is what a true feminist would do.

Broward

(1,976 posts)
10. Bernie outpolls Hillary versus Trump.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

Why are Hillary supporters ok with the increased risk of a Trump presidency? Privilege?

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
11. Says dweeby white Hillshill
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

A lot of innocent Muslims are likely to die do to Hillary's aggressive foreign policy too.

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
29. Jury results
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:57 PM
Mar 2016

ed Message
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:53 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Says dweeby white Hillshill
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1619454

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

The name-calling is inappropriate.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Mar 31, 2016, 06:58 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: You interrupted Final Jepoardy for this?
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The language is over-the-top. But all in all, a true statement. Her foreign policy stance is a disaster. I say leave it alone.
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polly7

(20,582 posts)
49. As they already have .......
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

but 'the minorities, women, members of the LGBT community, and any other group' in those mostly defenseless nations that big money and the weapons manufacturers, IMF, frackers, etc. have targeted and couldn't give one fuck about can’t say one damn thing about it.

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
53. Flagged by Hillarians for telling the truth. TRY GOOGLING HILLARY CLINTON KISSINGER, Hillarians!
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:47 PM
Mar 2016

Being INFORMED is part of being a RESPONSIBLE adult.

First jury I've seen on this site that went the right way. Interesting. I was considering every jury is stacked for Hillary. I've seen too many hides for far less.

I can imagine how many Hillary voters you must have on ignore.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
12. Instead of devoting time on Rat Fuckery
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

Could you go into some threads about issues and talk about them? I know it is hard while carrying all that water but it would actually make discussions a ton better on here.

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
13. As I have said in other posts...
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

I am a generally conservative person who has decided that Bernie is the only sane candidate on either side.

The following line...

While conservatives openly flaunt their selfish privilege with their banker friends and Koch backers.

...gets me confused. I do know the ladies down at the local bank, but I don't know anyone named Koch.

Can someone help me here?

 

Zira

(1,054 posts)
56. Welcome to DU! I'm pretty new here too.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

I think you are right about Bernie.

You probably don't want to pass around the c word because we have a lot of Hillary Clinton supporters that have a serious problem with tolerance. They will easily flag you and you'll be tried by a politicized jury on this site that nearly always goes the wrong way.

Just warning to be watchful of that. Hope you stick around!

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
64. Thank you, but...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:05 AM
Apr 2016

I cannot help it that I am...

- Fiscally conservative, in that my wife and I have had a paid-off house since our mid 40's. Etc.

- Morally conservative, in that I have been married to the same woman for 25 years. Etc.

- Politically conservative in that I support the constitution, and I have the training and background to defend it with more than words. Etc.

- I also support environmental activism, women's choice, LGBT issues, educational opportunity for all economic levels and equal access to health care. Etc.

If any Hillary supporters have a problem with the above, Bring it on.

Oh, and I support Bernie.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
15. TRUMP! A media-made monster. And you all fall for it. Cruz in worse.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

But he's in the pockets of the puppeteers - the Kochs and his ilk. So they feed you the propaganda and you all fall for it.

Bernie and Trump - the two self-funders. They really, really scare the big money corporatists. And you all fall for it. As McLuhan said so long ago, "the medium is the message."

Read a book.

 

quantumjunkie

(244 posts)
18. As a Minority, please dont speak for me...it's Bernie or Bust! nt.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:21 PM
Mar 2016

Susan Sarandon is a wonderful progressive giant!

Response to seabeyond (Original post)

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. Many have been checking it for years...A fat lot of good it's done
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:37 PM
Mar 2016

The Dems keep getting weaker and more conservative regardless.

Meh.

elias7

(4,003 posts)
27. And Hillary's net worth is over $30 million, what's the point?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

That she's not allowed to care or be involved? Hillary? Sarandon?

I find the OP senseless. If you make over 100k/yr, never mind. Your life won't change wither way...

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
28. I detest this approach
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:43 PM
Mar 2016

Vote her because she isn't as bad as Trump. That is the single weakest campaign approach I've ever heard.

I can't just vote against the other guy. I need to be able to vote FOR my side. Bernie is someone I believe in. Hillary is not.

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
31. Its the biggest crock of bullshit going. 'Vote for this terrible candidate, so we don't get that....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:58 PM
Mar 2016

....other terrible candidate!!'


No thanks.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
35. What a stupid blog, this idiot is lying about Susan and Michael Moore too. Is this SpamDan?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:06 PM
Mar 2016

So much hatred for liberals, and so clueless.

What has this guy done for liberal causes besides blog from his mom's basement?

 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
37. I had tea and snacks with my 70 year old good friend.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:13 PM
Mar 2016

As a 40 year old I enjoy hearing his lifetime of experience. And he is about as colorful as they come.

I generally avoid conversations about politics with him because of his right-wing news sources.

He's a Republican.

But he repeated what I heard recently from another Republican friend.

Their candidates are all messed up, and they are worried about losing to Clinton.

They really don't like Hillary Clinton.
But they like Bernie Sanders!

And he asked me for more information.
We agreed that the two things the government should provide its people are education and health care, because these are the two things that help people do what is best for society as a whole.
After that they can live in a cardboard box if they want.

If we can win this battle, I think we will have won the war.

BoringWilli

(3 posts)
39. Benjamin Dixon addresed this issue
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:20 PM
Mar 2016

Title of the video: What Is McRacism? When White Hillary Supporters Lecture Bernie Supporters about Privilege

[link:

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beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
42. McRacism!!! Brilliant! Omg he totally nailed it!!! That is the op to a T.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

White Hillary supporters act like white Bernie supporters benefit from a privilege they don't!


Meteor Man

(385 posts)
57. The Black Misleadership Class
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:06 PM
Mar 2016

That's right! Just like the Third Way Misleadership Class that says Bernie is too radical.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
46. Why is "liberals" (like Sarandon) in quotes?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:34 PM
Mar 2016

She's a progressive, intelligent, strong woman who's earned every cent and worked for many causes - donating time and money, and supports liberal values. She wants better lives for all and thinks everyone like herself should be paying more to make it happen.

But seriously, why the quotes?



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
48. Only people who support Hillary are liberals. And feminists. And true Dems.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

The rest of us are commies, BernieBros and Trump supporters.

Just like Bernie we've been pretending all along.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
51. Bloggers are a riot, so puffed up and full of themselves.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:42 PM
Mar 2016

Remember imamisssmartypants or whatever her name was?


 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
47. agreed! these people need to grow up and pick the candidate who is NOT under FBI investigation and
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:35 PM
Mar 2016

neither disliked nor distrusted by majorities of voters!

This election is too important to gamble on a mistrusted candidate who's under investigation for jer violations of federal laws

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
54. What did she say?
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:48 PM
Mar 2016

I thought Sarandon said there was a possibility she might not vote for Clinton. The same goes for me. There is also a possibility I won't vote for Bernie if he is the Democratic nominee. The point being, if we put our faith in a candidate, and that candidate lets us down, we feel betrayed, resentful, etc. I think Sarandon stopped short of the Bernie or Bust thing, did she not?

Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
63. I have my doubts now that Trump will be their nominee. . .
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:41 PM
Mar 2016

that assumes that Republicans will play fair and award their nomination to the one with the most delegates. Since when do Republicans ever play fair?

 

CompanyFirstSergeant

(1,558 posts)
66. I find myself...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 09:10 AM
Apr 2016

...in an odd place as a registered Republican in this election cycle.

I'm going to write in my dog's name on the Republican ballot and go home and pray for Bernie.

EDIT: I think my older dog is too old for the White House, but my younger one is too dumb to find the West Wing.

I'll decide by the primaries.

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