Article shows Clinton is a DINO and uses plenty of weasel words to look progressive

[Red Oak]

You might also say she is a Republican in a Democrats clothing. From the article:

"One bit of conventional 2016 campaign wisdom is that Bernie Sanders has pushed Hillary Clinton far to the left. It seems so obvious that even the socialists are celebrating.

Like a lot of conventional wisdom, it's partly true. Clinton's words on taxes, trade, minimum wages, immigration and Wall Street do sound a lot like those of the socialist Sanders. But look past the stump speeches and something more significant becomes clear: Clinton's rhetoric may have changed, but her policy positions haven't. That means her anticipated pivot toward the center for the general election is also likely to be more oratorical than substantive."

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"But an analysis of her speeches, debates and white papers shows that she's been a careful tactician. On issue after issue, she has left an escape hatch and declined to say things that might cause voter whiplash later. Once she clinches the nomination, Clinton may not need to tack back to the center much at all."

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"One example is the minimum wage. When Sanders called for a nationwide $15 minimum, she responded by backing a higher wage too. But hers was for $12, citing economists who say a $15 floor could invite more automation and job losses in depressed and rural areas.

Her escape clause? Unlike Sanders, she would let the states decide. She allows that a higher minimum wage might work in more expensive cities and states -- and they are free to enact one if they choose."



http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-29/clinton-s-tack-to-the-center-it-s-just-talk

[Submariner]

1. Hillary also shot Vince Foster in the head

We just haven't found the video yet.

[Red Oak]

2. Then she probably didn't do it.

Youtube is FULL of Sec Clinton taking Republican positions time and time again on major issues.

Would you like some links to them?

[djean111]

9. That actually will never successfully work as a deflection.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. I think what I find most disappointing about the Clintons is how little they must think of us

when they tell us what they think we want to hear to gain our confidence, before their "triangulating" policies end up favoring the right.

[Red Oak]

4. Agreed. It is amazing that they do it so often, time and time again.

People are finally waking up though and it is a sight to see.

The middle class has been getting royally screwed for almost thirty years and are finally asking who is responsible.

The answer is both "Democrats" like Bill and Hillary Clinton as well as Republicans like George Bush.

Even Barack Obama has had a hand in this, e.g. no Wall Street over-site, no breaking up the TBTF banks.

The "Third Way" is dead!

[highprincipleswork]

6. What is most disappointing is that people repeatedly believe these clever dissemblances.

[Baitball Blogger]

8. These are the problems they create for themselves. We now have ample history to review how these

things turn out in the long run. If their programs had been properly vetted when they were first passed through legislation, the weaknesses of their programs would have been predictable. But the truth is that proper analysis is the first thing that gets sacrificed whenever Centrists spend entirely too much time looking for common ground with the right. And, truthfully, some of those crime bills they passed were an attempt to reach out to the right. No thought at all was put into how they would affect their own loyal group of voters.

I can't believe for a second that they weren't smart enough to consider the consequences.

[pdsimdars]

11. What's even more disappointing is that some people who are Democrats and supposed to be smarter

still fall for it and actually support her candidacy. Can you believe that??????

[CorporatistNation]

5. ABSOLUTELY! Weasel Words Are Common Accompanied By ZERO Inquiry By The MSM!

So we have to have the FBI Ask the REAL questions instead!

[Red Oak]

7. Even better

The people, the voters, are starting to ask the questions.

[pdsimdars]

13. Or at least the people are starting to hear a straight talker when they hear him

[mythology]

10. Utter nonsense there are no such things as DINOS

Clinton and Sanders voted the same 93% of the time. Clinton was rated the 11th most liberal Senator during all of her sessions of Congress.

Clinton voted with the party more frequently than Sanders did.

There is no objective rationale for calling her a DINO. Not that there is such a thing given the parties are more divided than at any point since Reconstruction. Nobody votes with the other party more than 40% of the time and there were only 4 or so that were below 70%. It's a silly unsupported slur designed to denigrate those are "less pure" generally offered up by the outside edge of the party (it's the same for Republicans).

Also given that Clinton is beating Sanders by a wide margin with registered Democrats, you're either saying the majority of Democrats are DINOS which is false on its face, or you're back to my previous contention that it's a substance free slur on those you disagree with.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

12. The 7% where they didn't vote the same are on the issues

Of critical importance.

Patriot Act, Iraq War, Bankruptcy Bill, Glass-Steagal, the list goes on.

[pdsimdars]

14. All you have to do is look at her stance on policy issues . . she is alwasy wrong.

[Armstead]

15. Standard Operating Procedure for the Clintons and Centrist Dems

That's been noticeable since the Clinton first stepped on the national stage.

If Clinton is nominated it will be a plain-vanilla campaign, without the vanilla.

[apnu]

16. This is typical politics, almost everybody does it.

Look at the Republicans. Year after year, during the Primary season, they fall all over themselves to show how right-wing they are and that they are the "most" conservative of the conservatives. Then in the GE, they quickly pivot to the center and tone all that down.

This is a time honored tradition in American politics and Hillary is doing it too. Normally the Democrats seem to agree, pretty early on, what they're about and so we see less twisting from individual candidates because the whole party is twisting. But Bernie has come this year and he's staking his territory out left of center and not budging from there at all. Because of that, Bernie is driving Hillary left, that's a good thing. Will Hillary stay there? That's an open question yet to be answered. But she's smart and knows there is a real popular left upraising in the Democratic party, and she knows she needs that to win.

So she twists in the wind, they all do. Bernie twists less, but he does twist from time to time. Its the game, we all know this.

[MisterP]

17. that's also why Trump's scaring the other Pubs so badly: for decades they've

promised to end abortion and then left it up to the states since they need it as a campaign issue; for decades they've screamed about Washington spending while their states suckle on everyone else's teats: Trump broke the illusion

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-trump-big-government-20160301-story.html

[Red Oak]

18. Good post - Thank you

If nothing else, the political class (how I hate that term!) has been put on notice.

Given Occupy Wall Street, Bernie's campaign and Trump's (gag) the politicians should realize that the status quo of screwing the middle class won't cut it anymore.