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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:33 PM Mar 2016

Today's meme from Hillary's crew: Bernie is trying to STEAL the election with Superdelegates!@11!!!

Hillary has a huge lead with super delegates, party bigwigs whose vote equals 10,000 normal person votes.

Bernie would need to win some over to get the nomination.

Hilary's crew has been pushing a lame talking point all day claiming for Bernie to get some superdelegates would make him a hypocrite, or show he is trying to steal the election.

So stupid.

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Today's meme from Hillary's crew: Bernie is trying to STEAL the election with Superdelegates!@11!!! (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 OP
It's so obviously hypocritical... DemocracyDirect Mar 2016 #1
bernie should reject any votes from supers since according to DU they are bad bad bad lol msongs Mar 2016 #2
Bernie is just telling his donors that.... MaggieD Mar 2016 #3
It is lame - accuse the opposition of what you yourself are brazenly doing. reformist2 Mar 2016 #4
She was working the room early on, how DARE he even try it?! Outrageous! nc4bo Mar 2016 #5
I really think HRC's message is more to innoculate superdelegates against any grassroots pressure Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #7
It was the Sanders camp that put this on the radar KingFlorez Mar 2016 #6
What I've seen are posts pointing out Bernie's hypocrisy. ecstatic Mar 2016 #8
The "hypocrisy" is totally contrived. Hillary has most of the superdelegates supposedly locked up Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #10
It would be funny if it wasn't so fucking vile. Vattel Mar 2016 #9
3 VT superdelegates pledge for Bernie Sanders TM99 Mar 2016 #11
Sanders can not overcome the delegate lead that Clinton has Gothmog Mar 2016 #12
He wouldn't actually need that many to switch. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #15
Neither part is likely at all Gothmog Mar 2016 #16
Yes! MSNBC desperate! Hayes and Maddow desperate! snowy owl Mar 2016 #13
Look those votes aren't cast, but they are written in stone. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #14
Kettle... Else You Are Mad Mar 2016 #17
 

DemocracyDirect

(708 posts)
1. It's so obviously hypocritical...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

It almost seems safe to ignore it.

Hillary seems to be the one who will use SuperDelegates to push her to a win.

But then swiftboating is where you attack your opponent to minimize his greatest strength or your own greatest weakness.

I am not stealing the election, you are.

Thanks for the post.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
3. Bernie is just telling his donors that....
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:40 PM
Mar 2016

... To get them to send in more money. He knows supers aren't going to back him.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
5. She was working the room early on, how DARE he even try it?! Outrageous!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:44 PM
Mar 2016

At least that's the story I heard.




 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
7. I really think HRC's message is more to innoculate superdelegates against any grassroots pressure
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:47 PM
Mar 2016

they might hear from their constituents.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
6. It was the Sanders camp that put this on the radar
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:45 PM
Mar 2016

It was his strategist that suggested that pledged delegates were not bound to vote a certain way and that they would be lobbying for delegates (seemingly both super and pledged) to switch sides. It is a severely dirty trick from the campaign that is supposed to be morally superior. All throughout the primary there has been talk that Clinton would steal the nomination with superdelegates, yet it turns out that Sanders is the one trying to steal the nomination with delegate tricks.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
8. What I've seen are posts pointing out Bernie's hypocrisy.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:48 PM
Mar 2016

When the superdelegates are helpful to him, it's OK. When they're helpful to Clinton, they're undemocratic. Nowhere have I seen concern about Bernie trying to steal the election. You're projecting again.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
10. The "hypocrisy" is totally contrived. Hillary has most of the superdelegates supposedly locked up
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 11:54 PM
Mar 2016

Some would have to switch at some point for Bernie to win.

It's like calling someone a hypocrite for running in an election when they don't like the election rules.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
11. 3 VT superdelegates pledge for Bernie Sanders
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016
"The people of Vermont have spoken," said Condos, who earned his superdelegate status as the vice chairman of the Democratic Association of Secretaries of State.

Jerman is the vice chairman of the Vermont Democratic Party. Both Deans and Jerman said their choices do not reflect the views of the state party, which is officially neutral in the contest between Sanders and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, Gov. Peter Shumlin and former Gov. Howard Dean have all pledged to support Clinton, sparking a backlash among some people who them going against the wishes of Vermont voters. Sanders overwhelmingly won the Vermont primary, earning 86.1 percent of the vote and winning every town. Clinton failed to meet the threshold to win any of the state's 14 pledged delegates.

Dean tangled with people via Twitter earlier this week over the issue, pointing to Clinton's greater vote tally nationwide and saying he had to do what he thought best.


http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2016/03/08/three-vermont-superdelegates-pledge-bernie-sanders/81484706/

Gothmog

(145,184 posts)
12. Sanders can not overcome the delegate lead that Clinton has
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:24 AM
Mar 2016

The concept that Sanders will be able to flip any super delegates is actually rather amusing. Sanders does not care about the party or down ballot candidates and so he will be unable to appeal to super delegates or pledged delegates. It will be amusing to see him try

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
15. He wouldn't actually need that many to switch.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

If he did reach 2026 pledged delegates, that would be half. From there he would only need about 100 supers to switch sides.

The hardest part would be reaching that 2026 number.

Gothmog

(145,184 posts)
16. Neither part is likely at all
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:22 AM
Mar 2016

Good news. Predictwise has Sanders up to a 5% chance of being the nominee compared to a 4% http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-democratic-nomination The free market system is not expressing a great deal of faith in Sanders' chances

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
13. Yes! MSNBC desperate! Hayes and Maddow desperate!
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:44 AM
Mar 2016

I just posted about a confusing and ridiculous cliquish adolescent gossipy conversation between maddow and hayes. What gives with this idiot cable station. Not sure why I'm even surprised given I stopped watching Maddow precisley due to the gossipy nature of her reporting. Only returned to hear Bernie. But I guess anything to distract people from the smart, adult answers he gave to her questions. ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
14. Look those votes aren't cast, but they are written in stone.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:48 AM
Mar 2016

I mean some of them made up their minds before Bernie even announces. I just don't see why Bernie even deserves to run it's obvious he is just getting in the way of the will of the people.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
17. Kettle...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:26 AM
Mar 2016

I have this friend named Pot. I think you guys will be great friends, you have a lot in common. To be honest, this whole super delegate system should be done away with or, at least, cut down in numbers. Their whole purpose is to ensure that the party doesn't have to be stuck with a candidate in the GE that they don't approve. To me, the DNC is saying that they know better than the rank and file that chose a candidate.

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