Hillary Clinton's Speech TRANSCRIPTS Should (at minimum) BE RELEASED, To The 718 Dem. SuperDelegates

[Segami]

Our political parties’ primary/caucus systems are more flawed today, because currently the percentage of unaffiliated (independent) voters exceed the percentage of voters affiliated with either party, than any time in recent history. Until these flaws are addressed, superdelegates are expected to access and mitigate the risk of nominating a candidate that is unelectable, especially by a wide margin.

The linked article suggests that Hillary Clinton release the speech transcripts to the public so as to narrow the trust-gap created between Bernie Sanders’ supporters, which should also be a major concern of the superdelegates. Short of making these transcripts public, the superdelegates request these transcripts be released to them immediately, so they can assess the risk they may pose, if released by a GOP supporter after the Democratic convention.

http://www.opednews.com/Quicklink/Hillary-Clinton-s-Speech-T-by-Hugh-Campbell-Democratic_Democratic-National-Convention_Democratic-Party_Hillary-2016-160317-400.html

[onecaliberal]

1. She bought them all, they won't give a rip either.

[casperthegm]

2. +1

We shouldn't let this just die, as much as HRC and her supporters would like.

[AtomicKitten]

3. Some superdelegates are lobbyists. Pretty sure they're cool with it.

Lobbyist Superdelegates Tip Nomination Toward Hillary Clinton
by Lee Fang @ The Intercept
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/17/voters-be-damned/

[seabeyond]

4. Nope. There is no way in hell I would do it if I were her. This is harassment,

plain and simple. She has accommodated the harassment long enough it people, mostly men, will never be appeased. A simple, No.

[senz]

18. "Mostly men," my ass. Women have ethical standards, too.

I say this as a woman who distrusts Sec. Clinton's secretiveness and underhanded dealings.

Asking a presidential candidate to come clean with the electorate is not "harassment." Secretary Clinton is not some poor little girl being picked on by mean boys. Please just stop it with that puerile nonsense.

[seabeyond]

20. It has nothing to do with ethical standards, everything to do with bullying. Clinton stands strong!

[senz]

22. Candidates don't "stand strong" against reasonable requests by voters.

If Clinton can't be open, honest, and forthright with the electorate, she has no business running for president.

[seabeyond]

23. Ya? There is nothing reasonable about this. About why Sanders is the only, with RW support.

[senz]

25. Oh, are you changing the subject, now? Well if you're looking for RW support

just take a look at Hillary's good buddies in the oligarchy -- you know, Henry Kissinger, the Bushes, Donald Trump, the CEOs of the big banks. Hillary is rolling in rightwing money because they know she's solidly with them.

[seabeyond]

26. No... I am not changing the subject. Pretty well on point thru out.

[redstateblues]

5. All politicians get paid for speeches when they are out of office

Nobody but BSS cares. If there was something shocking it would have leaked out. This is the Purity Party's Benghazi. Your desperation is showing. Grasping at straws

[Segami]

8. Everyone else EXCEPT HRC/Goldman Sachs cares about the transcripts.

I understand it makes you feel better and tingly-all-over convincing yourself otherwise. But, as such, it gets tiring listening to the same old parroting squawks that 'nobody cares' or 'desperation is showing'.......

The desperation arguments I see over these transcripts is coming from the Hillary camp......


......transcripts please.

[Segami]

6. The risk factor. Should we take her word that nothing

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said in her Goldman Sachs speeches will come back to bite her in the GE? Should the SuperDelegates demand that she release her transcripts now so that all democrats and independents can be assured that NOTHING in her transcripts will present a problem in the GE?

[renate]

12. well, the DNC won't demand it, that's for sure

I'd like to know what she said in those speeches just as someone whose vote she expects, but whatever. If she's the nominee I'd vote for her if she had been talking about turning puppies into hors d'oeuvres for the Wall Street oligarchs, because at least she's not a screaming yam.

But I do think it would be reassuring to know, in case somebody does have the transcripts and is waiting till after the convention to release them, that there aren't any 47% moments in there.

[Segami]

15. Bingo!....

How can any democrat or independent be assured they WON'T BE BETRAYED by a timed release of these transcripts (by repubs) that could expose a pattern of damaging red-meat statements (use your own imagination) weaved throughout her speeches?.......


September or October 47% surprise?.......Hillary is not a trusted candidate today as all polls continue to show.....that is a fragile stat that could further compromise her candidacy should these transcripts suddenly pop up between September & October. The media will explode giving front page coverage to the transcripts while on-air talking-heads will be super-analyzing the contents 24/7 and right up until the polling stations open.

[senz]

28. It is great

to see you speaking your thoughts openly and freely, Segami. This is one very good thing to come out of the rule change.

[Segami]

32. lol!.....

alert,...alert,...alert..... .....pass the fava beans and the Chianti

[senz]

33. The thing on that man's face is so gross

I don't even want to know what it is. But it sounds like you're happy to be free of all that nonsense!

[Segami]

37. It's from 'Silence Of The Lambs"....

with Anthony Hopkins as Hannibal Lecter.

Watch Anthony Hopkins Try On Creepy Bite Masks For Silence of the Lambs

Anthony Hopkins' portrayal of The Silence of the Lambs' Hannibal Lecter is among the most consummate in cinematic history. So complete was his personation, about the only thing that could elevate his chilling performance was the addition of a sinister-looking bite mask. The question filmmakers grappled with: Which bite mask is best? I think the filmmakers made the right decision when they went with the last mask in this lineup, which had a small grille added to it for filming.
This particular one looks considerably scary for added dramatic effects.....

http://io9.gizmodo.com/watch-anthony-hopkins-try-on-creepy-bite-masks-for-sile-1675793613

More common BM





As for the nonsense, we can all agree to disagree with each other and still maintain some level of civility. Unfortunately, some don't see it that way and would rather choose the path of disruption, hi-jacking, thread-trashing........

[senz]

39. Thanks, now I understand your joke

about sicko alerters.

Some people seem to need to work out their inner demons online, subjecting others to unasked for and undeserved abuse. I care so much about what's happening with this election, it makes it worth wading through the dysfunction to get a chance to understand and talk about it.

The Silence of the Lambs didn't stay with me; I'm fairly tough when it comes to "upsetting" movies, but what usually gets me through is aesthetics, not the inner distancing that allows humor.

I have admired your, and other OP writers, ability to keep going amid the garbage. It should be easier now, despite the influx of a few noisy jerks.

[Gman]

36. The DNC has nothing to do with this.

[Segami]

38. You are correct...

[nc4bo]

7. Not good enough. nt

[tomm2thumbs]

9. let's face it, if she were proud of what she said, they'd be released by now

hence her untrustworthy numbers

[Segami]

11. I agree. The question that democrats should be asking is...

Is there anything within your speeches that could hurt or taint your candidacy further moving into the GE if the transcripts were released?

[tomm2thumbs]

13. I'm sure folks who attended and taped them will be happy to release it once the General is underway

the Wall Street crowd is going to go with Republicans and anything that was said to undermine Hillary's candidacy will be 100% out there -- they are just sitting on their tapes for the moment

[senz]

19. That is exactly how it comes across.

It looks like she has something to hide.

[randome]

10. But...but...issues! The Revolution!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[senz]

24. Oh, take the nasty ridicule somewhere else.

[AzDar]

14. Oh, fuck THAT. If Hillary wants to run for PUBLIC office, she needs to make PUBLIC things that may

affect PUBLIC policy... to the PUBLIC.




If she does NOT, the PUBLIC will just continue to assume that she is as corrupt as the day is long.

[TCJ70]

16. I'm already 100% positive that the transcripts would not paint a rosy picture, but...

...I may be in a position to be forced to vote for this person over a Republican. I'd really like to know just how corrupt the person I'm voting for is...

[Lizzie Poppet]

17. Informed political decisions are profoundly un-American!

[w0nderer]

29. i knew i liked you for a reason *applause* +10000 n/t

[senz]

21. This is a presidential election. We should have trustworthy candidates.

Any candidate and any campaign that says trustworthiness isn't important to this election should bow out now.

[w0nderer]

27. sure and santa clause will divulge elf working conditions whilst easter hare mentions

sexual relations LOL

not happening
she just won't...too damaging

[senz]

30. What is that tool thingie in your sig line?

[w0nderer]

31. it's called a 1 percent 'equalizer'

or in common language a bearded viking axe (pretty isn't she....i have one with shorter handle irl..her name is 'shadowmaker')


either case they were used for 'majority vote' against 1%/royalty in the early years of the scandinavian countries (up until say 1700 or so)

[senz]

34. Thanks. I sure hope it doesn't have to come down to that.

[w0nderer]

35. i hope the same :-) but i'm willing if it does

[RBInMaine]

40. Are you seriously still beating this dead horse? Please, give it up. It's nonsense.