2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNew National Poll: Hillary Clinton +6, Bernie Sanders UP +9 POINTS
Clinton 51%
Sanders 45%
Margin +6
Previous Poll 3/5-3/9
Clinton 55%
Sanders 40%
Margin +15
Looks like some people havent gotten the memo the race is ovah......
Head-to-Head Matchups
Clinton v Trump +5
Clinton v Cruz +8
Sanders v Trump +9
Sanders v Cruz +13
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/03/17/1502934/-New-National-Poll-Clinton-6-Sanders-up-9-points
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)state polls are all that matter.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)including in all non-Southern states that he's won or lost.
hack89
(39,171 posts)MI was the only real outlier.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)How much of that deficit comes from the Southeast. I'm willing to bet if you took out those states that Bernie would be ahead "nationally".
comradebillyboy
(10,226 posts)just aren't the right sort of people for Bernie's party are they? Their votes shouldn't count if they don't support Bernie eh?
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)...
comradebillyboy
(10,226 posts)Missouri at various times in my life. I now reside in New Mexico. Is this relevant to my earlier post?
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)what do you think about those places?
comradebillyboy
(10,226 posts)They were all very different but I met plenty of good people in each of those states and some not so wonderful folks as well. They are all equally American places, each deserving a representative say in the national political discourse. I love living in NM because of it's amazing diversity and despite our dreadful state and city (Albuquerque) governments.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)some suck
some are so much better
comradebillyboy
(10,226 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)But they've voted already. Most of the states that haven't voted yet are in the northeast, midwest, and west coast where opinions might differ a bit from those in southern states.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Segami, it's going to be great when we put him in his place.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We are going to be like two peas in a pod as Clinton gives her victory speech and Trump is too embarrassed to even speak.
You're the one touting her strong numbers.
OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)No way is he too embarrassed to speak. He'll be doing some major blaming, dog whistling, etc.
We know he'll blame the media, but who else? I would keep the locations of Hillary victory parties off social media!
Segami
(14,923 posts)OhioBlue
(5,126 posts)He would not be gracious at all, that is certain. He's gonna call on his followers to teach someone a lesson... the target will probably be spewed from his mouth without much thought, so it is hard to guess. Media? Liberals? Mexicans? Jews? lord... who knows.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Meanwhile, Hillary has been leading while being attacked 24/7 from both sides. #ByeBernie
Segami
(14,923 posts)In 2008, the repubs were set n' ready to unload a ton of oppo research on Hillary. There was only one problem as to why we DIDN'T SEE ANY OF IT. That unforeseen problem was called Barack Obama. He put a dent into their plans. All that wonderful Hillary oppo research we NEVER SAW back in 2008 has been updated for 2016 and guess who's going to MC delivering it's messaging? It rhymes with chump. It case you haven't been watching, Bernie has not been playing dirty politics with Hillary (unless you think facts are smears), unlike the lying-smear-machine she has going in her campaign a la David 'pizza-rat' Brocks.
So stop saying she has been attacked 24/7 when in fact, the repubs have been keeping their powder dry till she is officially confirmed as the Democratic Party's nominee. Get ready for Hillary, along with Bill, to receive a very rude awakening from the repubs.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)marew
(1,588 posts)And her buddy Wasserman Schultz on a daily basis!
Wasserman Schultz weeks ago allied herself with the GOP position on payday loans. Many, many Democrats are beyond outraged by this!
The Official Head Of The Democratic Party Joins GOP Effort To Protect Payday Lenders
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/03/01/3755213/wasserman-schultz-payday-loans/
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz Is Taking A Ton Of Heat For Helping Payday Lenders
Democrats are not happy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-payday-lenders_us_56e1a9d6e4b065e2e3d50764
DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz joins hands with GOP in assault on Elizabeth Warrens consumer protection agency
http://www.salon.com/2016/03/01/dnc_chair_debbie_wasserman_schultz_joins_hands_with_gop_in_assault_on_elizabeth_warrens_consumer_protection_agency/
Clinton has said nothing about this since it came up weeks ago! And Hillary is not a corporate hack? Right! Silence screams complicity!
kristopher
(29,798 posts)Approval number for Obama among 204 independents.
Approve 34%
Disapprove 62%
Undecided 4%
With the parties trying to stomp down insurrections at both ends of the spectrum we've seen an unprecedented primary season, is there any reason to think things will stabilize for the GE?
What happens if it becomes a 4 way race in the GE?
Clinton, Kasich, Sanders, Trump?
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Trump may well run as an independent if he is "cheated" (ha ha) out of the Republican nomination. Sanders won't do the same, unless he is ahead in pledged dels by July and really really really cheated, but that's also extremely unlikely. If Sanders comes back to take the nom, a fake centrist in the Bloomberg mode may also enter (not Bloomberg, obviously - he's good for like 1.5% in any scenario, the buffoon). Ventura has said he will enter - an amusing scenario that would set up the first ever WWE vs. WWE contest. He'd take more votes from Trump and accustomed non-voters than from Clinton, but definitely a little bit from both.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)It makes me want to argue just because of your phrasing. We all do it sometimes but it is a bad habit that shuts down dialog and keeps people of like mind from connecting.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)But other scenarios, as detailed in my post, seem possible to me.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Given the advantages Senator Sanders opponent had/has, it behooves our party's leaders to think carefully as to how and why he is still very much in this race.
wyldwolf
(43,875 posts)Chichiri
(4,667 posts)BainsBane
(53,173 posts)So those numbers don't mean much. The winner of the Democratic primaries will, and that is clearly Clinton.