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Now that we are out of most of the Southern states (Original Post) UglyGreed Mar 2016 OP
The race angle noiretextatique Mar 2016 #1
Now we have Castro UglyGreed Mar 2016 #5
As I asked someone on Facebook, noiretextatique Mar 2016 #22
Can you forward the message to me alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #2
I'm sure if you contact UglyGreed Mar 2016 #3
Oh, website? How quaint alcibiades_mystery Mar 2016 #7
So why the first UglyGreed Mar 2016 #8
My tinfoil hat must have blocked the message rbrnmw Mar 2016 #12
Brock is an Atwater-spawned scumbag, first cousin to KKKarl Rove... Raster Mar 2016 #4
It does not matter UglyGreed Mar 2016 #6
Meh. That holier than thou attitude doesn't hold much water here. We have archives. JTFrog Mar 2016 #9
BenieBros meme UglyGreed Mar 2016 #10
If it wasn't so accurate it might be funny. JTFrog Mar 2016 #11
Yeah in your own UglyGreed Mar 2016 #14
Well you would know. JTFrog Mar 2016 #16
Tell Janey to delete UglyGreed Mar 2016 #18
Well, give Sanders supporters credit for following orders too ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #13
Yeah UglyGreed Mar 2016 #17
Nice revisionism Onlooker Mar 2016 #20
In her own words UglyGreed Mar 2016 #21
Yeah, that part is really unfair noamnety Mar 2016 #19
The Southern State meme that just won't die. Garrett78 Mar 2016 #15

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
22. As I asked someone on Facebook,
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:23 PM
Mar 2016

Are you opposed to education and healthcare? And we have Hillary's role in the Honduras coup. That is getting exposed.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
2. Can you forward the message to me
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

I think I deleted Brock's email directives by accident this morning!

Thanks.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. Oh, website? How quaint
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:33 AM
Mar 2016

The website is for Heroic Outsiders (tm) to squabble over.

We EvilInsiders have a direct telepathic link with Comandante* David Brock for most things, but I failed to sense this change of direction while BrockChanneling this morning, and there was the matter of that deleted email. Anyway, thought you would know. Sorry to bother.


* If you recall last week's BrockChannel message, we're to refer to Brock as Comandante for the remainder of the states, tu sabes?

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
8. So why the first
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

reply??? Makes a lot of sense to me Go forth and slander, you are truly an asset to the cause

Raster

(20,998 posts)
4. Brock is an Atwater-spawned scumbag, first cousin to KKKarl Rove...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:28 AM
Mar 2016

...Employee of the month at Oligarchs "R" Us. He has the parking place to prove it.

It is amazing that most enamored of the Clintonista persona can't see past the blather and bullshit. I wonder if late at night, after the servants have been dismissed for the evening, if Bill, Hill and little Chelsea don't sit around the crackling fire and ruminate on Chelsea's little "run" after Hill has had her two terms. Oh, exciting... America's royalty! Move over Wills and Kate... the colonies are catching up!

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
6. It does not matter
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:31 AM
Mar 2016

to most. They want what they want and will accept any course of action to get where they want to be.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
9. Meh. That holier than thou attitude doesn't hold much water here. We have archives.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

And I can't imagine Bernie being very proud of the BernieBros and their efforts to take down the entire party if they don't get their way. And I really can't imagine him being very proud of those so-called supporters embracing right wingers in their frenzied excitement to burn the party to the ground.

I mean as long as we are talking about pride and supporters.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
16. Well you would know.
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

You've definitely brought some of the nastiest right wing propaganda out there right into our den.



UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
18. Tell Janey to delete
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

her WESTERN REPRESENTATION PAC propaganda and then I may respect anything you may write in the future.......

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
13. Well, give Sanders supporters credit for following orders too ...
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

... they've done a pretty good job portraying Hillary as a racist, homophobic, warmongering, money grubber. They've done almost as good as the Republicans have. They're very Donald Trumpish in their approach, but then again that's what a political revolution and an insurgent campaign is all about, so it's not all bad. But, you have to accept when Hillary's team fights garbage with garbage, it's part of the price the Sanders campaign pays.

UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
17. Yeah
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

we came we saw................... a couple of super predators but thought that they should not be allowed to be married because marriage is between a man and a woman......

 

Onlooker

(5,636 posts)
20. Nice revisionism
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

No, Sanders really did not play a role in marriage equality, but remember: You must believe that everything Sanders did was right. He can do no wrong. In my opinion, everything is context. Sanders is a great leftist in a state that is liberal. The Clintons are moderate progressives in a nation that is quite conservative. Sanders history with gay rights is better than Hillary's, no doubt about it, but drop your delusions. You can still support him even though he though fled to an almost all white state that was liberal, where he rarely had to compromise (except on gun rights, the stealth bomber, gay marriage, and apparently the Minutemen).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage_us_569fcc4de4b0a7026bf9e06f

Sanders did support civil unions as far back as 15 years ago, but it was for the same reason he opposed the federal Defense of Marriage Act in 1996: his strong belief in state's rights. He wasn't advocating for legal marriage for same-sex couples. He actually avoided the subject.

As one Vermont columnist put it in 2000, getting a straight answer from Sanders on gay marriage "was like pulling teeth... from a rhinoceros." In 2006, Sanders said he supported civil unions but not same-sex marriage, again deferring to states

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/01/23/no-bernie-sanders-the-pioneer-marriage-equality.html

What is surprising, really, is that Sanders supported Vermont’s civil unions for precisely the same reason he opposed DOMA in 1996; his staunch belief that equality or the lack thereof was the purview of each individual state, not the federal government. In 2006 Senator Sanders reiterated his support for civil unions, but not same-sex marriage and once again demurred to the “Tenther” position deferring to each state the purview to either allow, or deny, LGBT equality under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution; the same position held by several former Confederate states today.

...

In fact, in 2000 a Vermont opinion columnist wrote that not only was the Vermont Independent not an advocate for marriage equality, he shunned talking about the issue like plague by avoiding the subject altogether. As the columnist put it in 2000, “getting a straight answer from Sanders on gay marriage was like pulling teeth… from a rhinoceros.”

http://time.com/4089946/bernie-sanders-gay-marriage/

But his record on gay marriage is more complicated than he now makes it sound. While Sanders generally opposed measures to ban gay marriage, he did not speak out in favor of it until 2009. That’s still ahead of Clinton, who released a YouTube video announcing her support in 2013, as well as most other Democratic Senators, but not as early as he’s now casting it.

...

In 2006, when the Bush White House proposed an amendment to the Constitution defining marriage as between a man and a woman, Sanders spoke out against the Republican plan, saying it was “designed to divide the American people.”

But when Sanders was asked by a reporter whether Vermont should legalize same-sex marriage, he said no. “Not right now, not after what we went through,” he said.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
19. Yeah, that part is really unfair
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:53 AM
Mar 2016

Even as a bernie supporter, I have to agree that it's really unfair to label someone who voted for the Iraq war, spent most of her career and adult life opposing gay marriage, and takes millions for speeches to Wall Street a homophobic moneygrubbing warmongerer.

I don't think I ever called her a racist, but her supporters have claimed that it's clear to the AA community that she hates all blacks. I actually never heard a Bernie supporter say that.

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