2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLol Hillary supporters preparing for a GE loss, already blaming Bernie supporters
Low Dem turnout is a huge theme this primary and, because an unknown old white man isn't delivering, he's to blame. But with the first woman president in the balance, why isn't the Clinton campaign inspiring? Before you can scapegoat Bernie in November, you better figure out why your candidate, on the precipice of making history, has fallen flat as evidenced by turnout. Now, you could argue and might be correct to do so, that the DNC doesn't want high turnout. Less exposure - a small number of strategically hidden debates - makes it difficult for an unknown to simply introduce himself. John Lewis and Rachel Maddow were still litigating his participation in civil rights movement last night. That's just one example of how unknown he is and how easy it is for the establishment to turn it against him. So low voter turnout is by design. GE debates will expose Trump and history will bring Dems to the polls come November. Otherwise, low primary turnout is a function of Bernie's obscurity and Hillary's unfavorables. Each poll indicates the electorate cares most about a politician's honesty. And every poll indicates Hillary's biggest problem is people don't find her trustworthy.
Hillary supporters, you only have a flawed, uninspiring, untrustworthy, Republican lite candidate to blame if Dems don't turnout in November.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)The world's only fat speed freak is going to have a sad come election night.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)It will be yuge.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Bernie if turnout is low in November. The others have an 11 month head start on you. Do you have a breaking point? TBD
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)Nice try.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Are you new to DU?
Welcome!
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)smiley
(1,432 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)carry on.....
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)And I've been here a long time.
Bravo, friend.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)The response from Hillary supporters is: get a grip (me).
Total projection. Can you see that now? Do you understand how projection works?
I'll help: a person unconsciously attributing their own issues onto someone or something else as a form of delusion and denial.
In noting an observation, I was accused of being delusional. Do you have a better understanding of what your doing when you're calling me delusional now that I've explained projection? I've painstakingly spoon fed you, it should be very clear.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We do need to work on enthusiasm. Enthusiasm for Sanders borders on non-existent and Clintons turnout isn't anything to brag about.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Did you mistype something there? Or in the alternative: may I please have some of whatever you are smoking?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I'm looking at vote counts. Factual information. I wish it wasn't the case. No reason to be offensive when uncomfortable facts are presented.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)The best they can do is look for a candidate likely to get out the vote. But noooooo, Debbie doesn't want that. Her GOP friends might suffer if we get out the vote.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,452 posts)Get a grip. I can't speak for other HRC supporters but I'm thinking more about the likelihood of us winning in November and waiting until we actually lose (if that even is that likely to happen) to start blaming certain groups of people. /s
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)From today
Uh-oh!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511391762
This is typical Hillary supporter scapegoating. But in this thread, everyone is either defensive, distancing themselves, or in denial about your palpable fear of losing to Trump and scapegoating.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)as opposed to voting for the first ever woman president.
And blacks and Latinos? We all know how much they hate Hillary and love the Donald.
I'm very, very concerned.
WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)It's not my fault you haven't noticed. All ready to blame Bernie supporters.
djean111
(14,255 posts)they are a woman. I am a woman, and I will wait for someone like Liz Warren to run.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)That's like an anti-war person helping W by refusing to vote for Kerry in 2004. Entirely your prerogative of course, but I hope you change your mind (and Trump hopes you don't change your mind).
RiverLover
(7,830 posts)will turn out in droves right? What do you care if some of us here don't vote for the war hawk, corporate purchased corrupt candidate just bc we share similar body parts? We need to get republican-minded "democrats" out of the party, not reward them with the WH.
How else will we see this country get back on track?
With more off shoring jobs? More dereg Wall Street? More cuts to welfare? An even bigger defense budget? Corps not paying taxes and buying our representatives.
I'm not willing to vote for that again. A Democratic vote should be for an actual Democrat. Male female black white or brown. I don't care. At some point and why not now, we have to make a stand.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)deploy Nader meme immediately!!!
Corey_Baker08
(2,157 posts)WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)It took a bit, because I didn't think all of her supporters were equally dense. Maybe you're not. Perhaps the first responder is the only knucklehead and the rest of you based your response on her comment.
NCTraveler being the exception.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Response to highprincipleswork (Reply #29)
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere
(5,252 posts)I think I have it now.