MSNBC: Clinton Staffers In Colorado Aren't Telling Sanders Supporters Where To Caucus

[Shemp Howard]

I'm not quite sure what's going on here. My best guess is that Clinton people are cold-calling Democrats. If the person called does not favor Hillary, that person would be given no caucus information, even if that information is requested.

This doesn't seem to be in any way illegal. But I suppose some could reasonably say it's unethical. Here's the MSNBC clip.

[jillan]

1. Slime bags!! I am so sick of this.

[Karma13612]

28. +100

And Hillary is officially on notice:

If you win the presidency, you better fight as dirty as you are RIGHT NOW, to defeat the republican crap in Congress, and to promote the 99%-friendly promises you are making right now.

If you turn Right, and govern like republican-lite, I will make sure to yell very loudly for you to be Primaried in 2020. So, maybe you shouldn't get too comfy in that big White House.

So, are we clear??

[Beowulf]

86. I wouldn't hold my breath.

[JimDandy]

89. I am a Sanders supporter. I have been phone banking for him.

If we call someone who then identifies themselves as a Clinton supporter, we simply say "Thank you" and move on to the next call. Our job, just like the Clinton's phone banking volunteers, is to use our time to identify our candidate's supporters and get them to the polls. There is NOTHING unethical or nefarious about this.

What is happening, that is wrong, is when a county Dem party, that is supposed to be neutral, doesn't post the caucus places on their website, or doesn't tell Sanders supporters where to caucus when they call the office, or never answers emails from a Sanders supporter.

[passiveporcupine]

106. Thank you JimDandy

I suspected this was the case. For both parties.

I wish people would stop trying to make up things to be upset about.

[JimDandy]

113. Yes. There are enough real things about Clinton's campaign for me to be upset about.

If I were the manager of that reporter, or the woman off camera who replied to him, I would make them both brush up on political processes before I allowed them to cover any more political stories. They are supposed to be the professionals, not the Sanders supporter at the caucus, or even people on this thread who are not saavy to the finer details of the GOTV process.

[Politicalboi]

2. Unethical

That's her middle name.

[RoccoR5955]

80. I believe

that her picture is in the dictionary under the definition of "unethical."

[Joe the Revelator]

3. The Hillary campaign is disgusting.

[TheBlackAdder]

87. Dicks! Just a bunch of dicks do stuff like that!

[peacebird]

109. Which is why I will never vote for such a slimey unethical candidate as Hillary.

[yourpaljoey]

4. Will this nonsense force Bernie to go Indepedent?

[HooptieWagon]

53. Possibly.

It would appear the DNClintons have broken the agreement with Sanders, and he isn't obliged to honor it any longer. OTOH, after filing to run as a Dem, there will be many states that won't let him now file as an Indie...so I'm guessing he won't.

[Lizzie Poppet]

124. He's said he won't.

Unlike his opponent, he's a person of his word. I trust him to keep it this time, too.

I'm a bit sorry, as it would give a chance for the numbers of Americans who aren't willing to accept the intolerable status quo to be vividly demonstrated. But I also don't think a similar indy candidate going to happen on the other side, and that means a GOP president, for sure. I think we're getting that anyway, if Hillary wins...but a Bernie indy run would guarantee it. He wouldn't risk that, I don't think.

[UglyGreed]

5. But the Sanders campaign

and his supporters play dirty pool..........

[Jitter65]

6. Isn't supposed to be a job for their own campaign? nt

[yourpaljoey]

7. What does that mean?

[jillan]

11. It means the Clintonites can do no wrong.

[anigbrowl]

55. Nobody is obliged to GOTV for their opponent...

But anyway, this is pure fallacy of composition. For all we know it's only one phone banker doing this; we don't know whether it's representative of the campaign as a whole, and the news media makes no effort to find out because the news media thrives on fake controversy. Phone banking is a numbers game, those people are trying to get through as many calls as possible and they have no incentive to have time-wasting conversations with people who say they're voting for someone else.

Also, as a voter it's your responsibility to know where your own damn polling place is.

[KingFlorez]

12. Correct

It's up to campaigns to inform their supporters of where to go. An opposition campaign typically says thank you and disconnects when they get a no. They don't give poll information.

[Bad Thoughts]

20. It is the job of all Democrats to make it easier to vote

... to tear down barriers and obstructions to political expression, and to give information to everyone, even to those who would vote Republican.

[Earth_First]

41. THIS!

Voter disenfranchisement is not a policy which I wish to see Democrats engaging in!

This is disgustingly a tactic of the GOP...

[UglyGreed]

46. As you can see

some don't feel that way. That is why IMO they slander honest people because they know they would do anything to win and expect others to be as dishonest as themselves.

[jillan]

58. Exactly.

[dlwickham]

88. one would think that

blame everyone but themselves

[WiffenPoof]

8. I saw this myself....

Told my wife and we just shook our heads. It's little crap like this that just makes me cringe.

[sufrommich]

9. "even if that information is requested"

That's bullshit. If the caller says they're not voting for Clinton,they say "thank you" and hang up.

[Shemp Howard]

31. That's what puzzles me.

If the call went as you described, then no one on either end brought up the subject of caucus locations. But the MSNBC reporter made a point of saying that caucus info was simply not given out to the Sanders supporters.

So either the reporter is very misinformed, or information was being selectively withheld. Based on my viewing of the clip (many times), I'm going with the latter possibility.

[Generic Other]

40. I think it probably means they are not bothering to talk with non-HRC supporters

Telling people to come to the caucus might be considered information meant to be shared on a "need to know basis." It is about sins of omission really. Of course one can question the ethics of the thing, but the other side will simply feign innocence.

[SusanCalvin]

94. If they are calling for HRC,

There's no reason for them to say a thing to Bernie supporters other than, "thank you, goodbye."

[brer cat]

138. Did you bother to read the post upthread by a sanders supporter saying they do the same thing?

I am a Sanders supporter. I have been phone banking for him.

If we call someone who then identifies themselves as a Clinton supporter, we simply say "Thank you" and move on to the next call. Our job, just like the Clinton's phone banking volunteers, is to use our time to identify our candidate's supporters and get them to the polls. There is NOTHING unethical or nefarious about this.

It helps to understand how phone banking works before getting all hot and bothered over nothing.

[nichomachus]

10. Do we really want that woman in the White House?

Good luck with that -- no principles.

[Generic Other]

43. I have not for two primary cycles now

No flip flopping here.

[asuhornets]

93. Absolutely..n/t

[onecaliberal]

13. This is what Hillary supporters think is fine. How many of us have turned into what

we used to despise in Republicans?

[jillan]

14. Hillpublicans.

[onecaliberal]

18. Oh snap!

[New Earth]

35. that is the sickening part

that they are ok with this stuff

[UglyGreed]

47. Good question

[Lizzie Poppet]

105. Eye-opening, innit?

Like candidate, like supporter...

[KingFlorez]

15. Just stop it

Those making phone calls for campaign don't further engage anyone that they get a no from. You say thank you and hang up. There is no obligation to give poll information.

[Generic Other]

45. I knew someone would say this

In defense of underhandedness. She gets her funds from the DNC. The party and Mrs. Clinton should be promoting the idea of getting us all to caucus.

[UglyGreed]

49. I knew there was something

I liked about you.............

[renate]

16. blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Caucuses are stupid anyway (even if they benefit Bernie tonight). Voting by mail makes SO MUCH SENSE, not least because people wouldn't get lost on the way to casting a vote in what is supposed to be a freaking democracy.

[LisaM]

39. We have vote by mail in Seattle and I HATE it

I don't think you should have to pay to vote for one thing. But it's also not effective - turnout last fall was the lowest percentage since 1932. They have a few drop boxes, but they are madly inconvenient (one is in a park), so if you do want to use a drop box you'd better have a car available, or expect a long bus ride. I far prefer voting in person (the mail-in option was always available to those who wanted it, so it's not as if people who like that option can't have it). I'm not sure why they've clung to this system when it doesn't have any real benefits.

[Generic Other]

48. I love it but I get why the postage requirement rankles

Guess Tim Eyman's backers see no financial gain to be had from eliminating the stamp tax. Still, your point that this is what the postage on the return-ballots amounts to is well taken.

[LisaM]

57. You have to pay to mail in your signature too...

That was another thing. And - the one time I did try to mail it, it got sent back (nothing major on the ballot, thank goodness) because I mailed it after work from downtown and the post office closes at 4:30 p.m.

They actually have a very high percentage of rejected ballots with this system, which is worrisome. At least when you voted in person, if you made a mistake, either the machine would catch it or you could get a new ballot.

[George II]

17. Isn't that the job of the Sanders campaign?

[morningfog]

21. Sure if the Clinton campaign wants to be an asshole.

[George II]

26. So why are Sanders voters asking Clinton's campaign for instructions?

[morningfog]

32. Why is the Clinton campaign being a dick and trying to suppress votes?

[George II]

44. Where is Sanders' ground game?

[morningfog]

51. You don't live in the US, maybe you don't get it.

Voting is a sacrosanct right. If the biggest republican douche alive asks me where and when to vote, I will tell them.

[George II]

62. I have lived in the US all my life - in fact I was born about 2 miles from where Sanders was born...

....about 5 years after he was born.

I've lived in New York, New Jersey, Ohio, and Connecticut.

What's your problem?

[morningfog]

64. Campaigns acting like dicks and their apologists from abroad.

[George II]

71. Is that an apology?

[morningfog]

74. No. IF you lived in the US you would know what a dick move that is.

Which may be worse.

[Major Nikon]

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[morningfog]

79. Lol!

[OrwellwasRight]

69. Agree 100%

Live your principles.

[Karma13612]

34. I believe they were being phone banked? eom

[Generic Other]

50. Because the DNC is underwriting this rodeo??

There is usually the pretense of being on the same team.

[laruemtt]

19. I wouldn't trust the Clinton cult to

tell me jack sh*^............

[WillyT]

22. Yep... By Any Means Necessary...

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. This is a dirty trick

[Boldine]

24. Those partisan.............

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[JackInGreen]

98. So ye know, there's a target on your back matey,

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[AzDar]

25. Dirty Deeds Done (Not) Dirt Cheap... Clinton's Unofficial campaign song...

[UglyGreed]

52. More of the same

I really feel terrible I have brought children into this world.

[global1]

27. We Have Candidates On Both Sides Not Acting Presidential And....

not fit to be President because of it.

It's embarrassing. I shudder to think what people around the world are thinking about how this is playing out.

It really is sad.

[liberal_at_heart]

33. The curtain has been pulled back. We and the whole world can now see that we

are not a democracy.

[cherokeeprogressive]

29. She'll be a great President though... uh huh.

[liberal_at_heart]

30. The Democratic Party is in self destruct mode. If they think they will attract new members or even

keep the ones they have now doing this shit they are badly mistaken.

[Karma13612]

36. A gift from the DNC and DWS that just keeps giving, and will keep giving

for several more election cycles.

sigh

[snowy owl]

37. Unfortunately that's not true

voters forget and they go back to old habits . . . we can't expect a candidate like Bernie every four years. Maybe Warren will be ready to run and the public will finally realize centrist democrats aren't going to do anything for them which might give her an opportunity. Bernie will have created that opportunity by going the democratic socialist route first.

[liberal_at_heart]

42. The two parties are slowly dying. Less than 30% consider themselves Republican.

30% consider themselves Democratic. Over 40% consider themselves Independents. And voter turn out seems to get lower and lower all the time. Yes, I do believe both parties are in self destruct mode.

[bettyellen]

38. OMG, THEY THANKED THEM AND HUNG UP!!!! Does anyone spreading this shit know SOP for calls?

because this is SOP.

this is like the crap about the DNC not registering voters. they have typically never done this- you all have overactive imaginations.

one uneducated person makes a Youtube video complaining, and everyone loses their minds. Crazy.

[Generic Other]

54. It's like the school giving their phone bank to the partisan cheerleader mom

to call all the runners-up for the cheer team and her not bothering to tell her daughter's rivals where the try-outs are being held.

[bettyellen]

56. No, it's how every GOTV script in history goes. The Other Guy? Thxbai! Next call. LOL @ the drama.

[Generic Other]

60. I'm a nicer person than that, I guess

LOL @ the drama. This kind of attitude is why I am not supporting your candidate.

[bettyellen]

63. I'm laughing because i have made hundreds and hundreds of GOTV calls, and it's obvious people

making a BFD out of this have never seen a script, let alone made calls. It IS silly, sorry. Same as assuming the DNC was going to do massive voter registration. People who have no knowledge or experience are making up CTs based on their odd assumptions. This reminds me of the caucus workers shocked MOM votes would shift. It is embarrassing.

[Generic Other]

65. Like I said, you have convinced me that your candidate would never earn my vote

I don't stay on script. I hang up on insincere people before the script starts.

I can find my own way to the caucus.

[bettyellen]

70. I'm sure you'd love me to feel personally responsible for your vote, but I cannot.

Again, that would be pretty silly- and I think we BOTH know better.

[Generic Other]

75. I'll feel just fine canceling somebody's vote out

A month ago, I still hoped there was a chance I could back HRC. Every day, I find a new reason why I shouldn't.

[bettyellen]

77. Wow, that is a very spiteful take on voting. Always the thinned skinned ones, LOL. Never fails.

[Ned_Devine]

83. Or, just maybe your idea of "ok, just politics" is gross and perverted. Maybe?

[anigbrowl]

90. Wow, tell us how you really feel

'Gross and perverted'? Because a phone banker decides not to waste time on someone who tells them they're wasting their time?

I seriously doubt every Sanders phone banker was asking every Clinton supporter if they needed directions to the polling plac.e The job is to call as many people as possible while the clock counts down, it's that simple.

[Ned_Devine]

99. Maybe I'm new, but when I canvassed in NH...

...and people told me they were voting for Hillary, I still asked if they knew where their polling place was and if they had transportation. I must be dumb

[bettyellen]

123. You're certainly ... unusual. But campaigns can't force people to stay on script and work

efficiently I guess/ Cheers to you, less phone calls, but better ones!

[Ned_Devine]

128. Ok, are we through squabbling?

[bettyellen]

130. :hugs: I appreciate that neither roof us went full asshole. :cheers: that is important!

[Generic Other]

148. And that's why you seem like a credit to your candidate

Might as well just robo-call if you can't be polite. You aren't doing much in the way of volunteering when you can barely stand to interact with the strangers you call! Only calling to be nice to some. Just calling to annoy the heck outta the rest of us apparently. That attitude is what bugs me. And it has nothing to do with the OP's complaints. It has to do with the HRC people's lack of civility. It is "gross and perverted" as you say. Thanks for reminding the volunteers that not everyone appreciates their "tactics."

[Ned_Devine]

149. You're the first person to get what I was trying to say

[bettyellen]

117. They have the same script, politely getting off the phone if they are decided on another candidate.

And as you say, on election day, seconds matter. To pretend the SOP for phone bankers is anything else completly lacks integrity. How low will people go to pretend they have the moral high ground? Insulting volunteers low. It's foolish and petty.

[bettyellen]

101. Gross and perverted for helping your candidate with scripted GOTV calls? Bernie's people are

working with the same basic script. Everyone does this. It is a non-story whipped up by someone who fooled the reporter.

Meanwhile you just called thousands of us dedicated enough to GOTV "gross and perverted" for working in service to democracy. That is ignorant and mean spirited. Get over yourself.

[Ned_Devine]

103. I like to help people even if they're not on my "team". That's just how I operate

Anything else just seems gross and perverted. So, put that in your hat and call it macaroni.

[bettyellen]

107. Well unfortunately "Thanks and goodbye" are part of everyone's script these days. Maybe you can get

a campaign job to change it, instead of hurling insults at people who work hard for both candidates. What a load of bullshit.

[Ned_Devine]

112. I've knocked on doors in two states in multiple cities and made hundreds of calls

I'm still helpful to people even if they're going in a different direction. If you want to continue to defend being rude and unhelpful, by all means, have at it

[bettyellen]

114. It's generally considered polite to be expedient- not waste the voters time. Thanks and good evening

is NOT rude.

[Ned_Devine]

116. But if that person asks you where their polling place is, do you think it's ok to hang up on them?

Because that's what this story is and that's what I find to be gross and a perversion of our system of how we treat other human beings.

[bettyellen]

118. Nope, but the reporter complained they were just saying Thanks and good night. LOL. Not an issue.

[Ned_Devine]

120. The reporter said "...they would not tell them where their caucus location was".

[anigbrowl]

111. So do I, but that's not a good excuse for getting egotistical about it

I find this characteristic makes me less good at sales type jobs, so although I've volunteered on several political campaigns I won't do phone banking, it's a waste of my time and campaign's resources, plus I hate talking to strangers if I can avoid it. But labeling other people as 'gross and perverted' for doing things differently from you strikes me as astonishingly self-absorbed.

To be perfectly frank, I don't trust people who are so sure of their own moral righteousness, with that attitude you're capable of any sort of injustice as long as you have a handy rationalization. I've heard enough of that shit from people who don't like me because I'm queer and think it gives them a license to take a pop at me.

[Ned_Devine]

115. What the fuck are you talking about? This is about being a good person as opposed to not helping...

...people. I think if someone wants to know where their polling place is, I'm going to tell them and not hang up. I think there's a perversion to the system of the way we treat other human beings and the way we behave when hanging up on someone in that situation seems "ok" and normal. I also think it's gross, hence "gross and perverted".

[anigbrowl]

121. You don't get to speak to me that way. Who the fuck do you think you are?

See? It's not pleasant to have complete strangers swear at you, but you were perfectly willing to start doing so to defend your vision of yourself as a good person.

You also switched around from 'find out of they know where their polling place is' to 'if someone wants to know where their polling place is,' a quite different situation that has nothing to do with the alleged behavior of the phone bankers in question.

How quickly you went from telling me what a great person you are to swearing at me and changing the subject of the conversation to make yourself look good. Think about it.

[Ned_Devine]

131. Your argument meandered off to nowheresville and it was the first thing I thought

Like "dude, what the fuck are you talking about?" And I'm still thinking it now

[anigbrowl]

159. Sure you are. You'll be thinking about it for a long time.

[SusanCalvin]

95. ^THIS^

[jillan]

59. It was an msnbc employee

[bettyellen]

61. Well they are an idiot to think this is a big deal. seriously desperate for news I guess.

[Pisces]

66. information is not difficult to find.

[Ken Burch]

67. Of course not...they want to make sure the people don't get a say.

HRC supporters feel they are entitled to every delegate everywhere.

[OrwellwasRight]

68. I once registered voters for a governor's race I won't name.

We were told that if we looked at the registration form and they had checked that they wanted to register Republican, we were supposed to give them the form back and tell them to mail it in themselves, and to only accept forms from those registering Democratic.

I thought the instructions were sketchy, disrespectful of voters and anti-(small d) democratic. I didn't listen to the instructions and accepted all registration cards. The person in charge reprimanded me. Whatever. I don't believe that "winning" by cheating is good for our country. And isn't that why we care about this? If we only do it to see who can win, we might as well get into baseball. 162 chances to win each and every year...

[Loki]

72. What a bunch of crybabies.

Where was the BS campaign. No information given to their caucus members or supporters and they expect the opposing campaign to give them directions? Come on, lack of organization is not Hillarys fault. Grow up. You don't want to take responsibility for your lack of organization. If I needed that info I certainly wouldn't go to my opponents to give it to me, then whine when they wouldn't, couldn't or didn't . Yea Bs supporters are going to play nice and give Hillarys delegates directions. LOL. biggest laugh of the night.

[RoccoR5955]

82. I know many who would

give ANYONE directions to their caucus, or polling place, regardless of who they would vote for.
I am one of them.
Don't call me a crybaby, because I have some sense of decency!

[Loki]

146. Oh please, I've watched the sense of decency

On this board disintegrate into a disgusting display of temper tantrums by people who want their way or the highway. If BS doesn't win, I won't vote or I'll vote for Trump or every Democrat who has not endorse your candidate is a piece of shit. No longer will I sit here and act like it hasn't happened. Calling the Democrats no better than a Republican is an insult I won't take anymore. You all have become absolutists and no better than the tea party clowns.

[RoccoR5955]

155. So you are willing to live

in a fantasy land, where one candidate who has endorsed Republican ideals, should just be tolerated, and those who want to inform people of that should sit down and shut up. They should just give up and blindly endorse the candidate of your choice.
I get it.

[Loki]

157. You don't know what you are talking about .

I've lived longer, seen more, experienced more than to believe in your little fantasy world. It's called Disney Land. I choose to live my life sanely and without stupid ideology pushed around like its the real world. It's not and just because you believe it, doesn't make it so.

[RoccoR5955]

158. Oh?

I don't think that you have lived longer than I have. I have seen things that were thought to be fantasies come around in my lifetime. Perhaps you just have not been alive long enough, and/or have lived a sheltered life.

[RATM435]

73. The clintons are fucking slime bags.

[brooklynite]

76. I guess some people can get offended by anything...

Any campaign (including Sanders) will thank the voter and terminate the call when the voter says they're voting for someone else.

[Plucketeer]

81. Yeah!

Why help to promote active involvement in the voting process when they're simply wasting your precious time?

[brooklynite]

84. Show me a Sanders phone-bank script that doesn't do the same thing...

[wildeyed]

110. They probably think

the Clinton campaign should be responsible for giving them a ride to the polls too. Or maybe the DNC

[warrprayer]

85. Kick

And rec

[wildeyed]

91. Duh.

Y'all have really never worked a campaign before, have you You ID YOUR supporters and turn them out. Not your opponent's supporters. Turning out your opponents supporter is like scoring a goal on yourself. It's a no-no, said every campaign organizer, ever.

[Leontius]

92. Why the hell should they give Sanders voters any info

You don't want to vote for me fine I'm not giving my opponents voters any help that would just be stupid.

[morningfog]

96. Why? To not be a total asshole.

[wildeyed]

100. No.

That is not how the game is played.

[Leontius]

134. So you would give Trumo or Cruz voters polling info in the nov election.

Not a smart move.

[morningfog]

141. Yes. This is silly.

[Lizzie Poppet]

104. Archetypal Hillary supporter, a mirror of your candidate.

I trust you realize that's not a compliment...

[wildeyed]

108. No.

Y'all are just very naive about how campaigns are actually run. This is standard operating procedure. Your bad if you don't understand the rules of the game you are playing. And it's not like the info is TOP SECRET. They can look it up

[Lizzie Poppet]

119. It's precisely because I'm NOT naive about campaigns that I posted that, actually.

And I don't view this as a "game," either. Another illustrative difference...

[wildeyed]

122. Yeah, Clinton campaign should score an own goal

to be up to your high, high standards.

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[Lizzie Poppet]

126. Don't worry...I don't expect you to understand.

Enjoy your celebrations tonight (I actually mean that...).

[wildeyed]

127. Because you didn't explain anything.

Just made vague insinuations.

[Lizzie Poppet]

129. Golly, maybe that's because I wasn't attempting to do any such thing.

That it needed to be explained is the point...

[Freaked Out]

139. That's why we reject you Hillpublicans.

Take it or leave it. Actually, leave the Democratic Party and join the Republican Party, where Clinton is *slightly* to the left of the three jokers on there.

I'll take Bernie, than you.

[wildeyed]

156. Welcome to DU!

[Leontius]

137. You going to support Republican voters in Nov with info or maybe a ride to the polls?

If not why?

[Lizzie Poppet]

140. The former, quite possibly. I'm a civil, polite person, for the most part.

The latter? Nope...we don't have polls in Oregon: it's all vote-by-mail.

[OldHippieChick]

97. This is such BS

I live in Colorado. The party has sent numerous notifications as to caucus locations. EVERYBODY interested in going to the caucus is aware of where they are to go. I have gotten many calls and I know where to find it on the web. This is a tempest in a teapot. No one, repeat NO ONE has asked me who I plan to caucus for.

[giftedgirl77]

102. Another uninformed bs OP.

If you don't understand the process don't try & pretend like u do.

[wildeyed]

125. And what is up with the reporter?

What a derp. When a political reporter doesn't know something that basic, then they don't have the A-team playing, that is for sure.

[72DejaVu]

132. Normal campaigning redefined as dirty tricks again

[Chico Man]

133. These sort of threads are becoming quite entertaining

In a rubber neck sort of way.

What a disaster some folks on this site have turned themselves into. What ugly rabid hatred. It's really quite horrible.

[Freaked Out]

135. Clinton will begin to lose every single state

from now on.

When reports are out that Bill and Hill Clinton did very dirty campaigning tonight, then the people should fully reject the Clinton and the pending dynasty.

It's over for Clinton. She has gone far enough, and the rest of the states after the 15th are NOT favorable to her.

[Marr]

136. That should be Hillary's campaign slogan: "Unethical, but Technically Legal".

[Lizzie Poppet]

143. "Hillary 2016: There Probably Won't Be an Indictment."

This is fun!

[Cordy]

144. I guess they didn't tell the caller

where Rubio, Cruz & Trump were caucusing either. Shame they should actually move on to do the jobs they are paid to do, and not run a Chinese lottery.

[Generic Other]

150. I thought they were volunteers

hmmmm....does she buy "LIKES" on Facebook too? Oh yeah. Silly me. She does.

Me <---- Not impressed.

[artislife]

151. I have to say, that camp is pretty inventive

Not in a good way, but they think of more ways to turn off an potential crossovers.

Nothing is really that surprising anymore.

[merrily]

152. Same thing they did in 2008 with Obama supporters. Tricks. New. Dog. Old. Teach.

[BreakfastClub]

153. Sander's campaign does the same thing. sorry. :-( nt

[merrily]

154. Bullshit. All the shenaning stories out of every caucus have been about the Hillary campaign, not

Bernie's.

Republicans do that same false knee jerk. Every time they get caught at something, they say, "Both sides do it." It's bullshit then, too.