2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWould you trust Hillary to not hand over more and more American sovereignty to big corporations?
Obama is giving away American sovereignty to big corporations with the TPP:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/kill-the-dispute-settlement-language-in-the-trans-pacific-partnership/2015/02/25/ec7705a2-bd1e-11e4-b274-e5209a3bc9a9_story.html
(ISDS = Investor-State Dispute Settlement section in the TPP)
From Elizabeth Warren:
If that seems shocking, buckle your seat belt. ISDS could lead to gigantic fines, but it wouldnt employ independent judges. Instead, highly paid corporate lawyers would go back and forth between representing corporations one day and sitting in judgment the next. Maybe that makes sense in an arbitration between two corporations, but not in cases between corporations and governments. If youre a lawyer looking to maintain or attract high-paying corporate clients, how likely are you to rule against those corporations when its your turn in the judges seat?
If the tilt toward giant corporations wasnt clear enough, consider who would get to use this special court: only international investors, which are, by and large, big corporations. So if a Vietnamese company with U.S. operations wanted to challenge an increase in the U.S. minimum wage, it could use ISDS. But if an American labor union believed Vietnam was allowing Vietnamese companies to pay slave wages in violation of trade commitments, the union would have to make its case in the Vietnamese courts.
Can you trust Hillary to not do the same and/or more?
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)will be Vietnamese farmers.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,752 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)and that she will take on Wall St.
Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)and bank account
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)But I thought it was the "gold standard."
To answer the original question: No frickin' way!
I'd trust her to wipe my server though. You know, like, with a cloth.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)where the wind blows and the money flows.
Sometimes lying about A to get the B.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)shawn703
(2,702 posts)Which Hillary do you really believe?
revbones
(3,660 posts)*fingers in ears*
LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Press Virginia
(2,329 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)NO NO NO
Arizona Roadrunner
(168 posts)US Chamber of Commerce has informed members not to worry about Clinton's "current" position on TPP. They imply that after the election, she will then "currently" be in favor of TPP. Follow the money.......
grasswire
(50,130 posts)SamKnause
(13,112 posts)Hell no !!!
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Does a bear shit in a toilet?
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)And sure as shit takes every corporate bit of cash she can lay her hands on without a thought about any of us .
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)On economic and environmental justice. And once we are all financially subjugated how exactly do we do we have any means of maintaining or advancing social justice?
handmade34
(22,759 posts)shawn703
(2,702 posts)When she said she wants to continue Obama's policies? Obama considers the TPP to be the capstone of his presidency. That would be a big slap in his face to not support the TPP, would it not?
mindem
(1,580 posts)I don't want a Clinton anywhere near a trade deal. Hillary would be a stellar example of bait and switch.
tazkcmo
(7,304 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)She will support the TPP and any future trade pacts without hesitation and continue to do the work of the banks.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)aways as well as tax relief for the rich.
Expect cuts in SS and age increased
More free trade deals Hillars owes Corpirate America and they will collect
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)The reason to keep it in political hands is to keep those hands directly accountable. History argues against a Clinton fighting the trend of corporatization.
I'd love to believe the Hillary has just been playing the game for her entire career in order to circumvent institutional sexism, and that once in office she could tell corporate powers that be to fuck off.
But I'm not optimistic.