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Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:43 AM Feb 2016

When Hillary Anoints Herself the Democratic Nominee Tonight or After Super Tuesday .....

I don't want hear her supporters start demanding that Bernie Sanders drop out immediately.

Remember 2008? According to her own rules, it was OK for HER to stay in the race no matter what! Hillary when so far as to evoked one of the saddest, most awful, moments in United States political history (the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy) as a reason to do so. I wonder how Ethel Kennedy and Bobby's 10 kids felt when Hillary displayed such a zeal and desperateness for her to be president:

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California." Hillary Clinton May 2008

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When Hillary Anoints Herself the Democratic Nominee Tonight or After Super Tuesday ..... (Original Post) Chasstev365 Feb 2016 OP
He can do what he wants. As long as he gets in line come GE time. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
gets in line? Merryland Feb 2016 #4
She will bring him to heel whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #7
what a dog of a comment. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #26
As Hillary would say, "Arf! Arf! Arf!" n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #97
Beat me to it! tazkcmo Feb 2016 #51
Of course not. Sander's made it clear from the beginning that he is not running still_one Feb 2016 #12
Oh FFS are you full of yourself. No wonder people here are starting to get sick of Hillary. nt Logical Feb 2016 #6
My 81 year old mom who loved Bill and Hillary is sick of Hillary. dinkytron Feb 2016 #14
Good point. nt Logical Feb 2016 #79
Starting to? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #93
Ooo...tough guy! TM99 Feb 2016 #9
OK. I'll "look into it." (n/t) Mike__M Feb 2016 #78
Bernie will tow the line if he loses but most of his supports will not krawhitham Feb 2016 #10
I don't think h can last a full campaign season artislife Feb 2016 #43
Hillary supporter here. That's pretty callous and, I suspect, by design. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #25
well said. tazkcmo Feb 2016 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #84
This is proof FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #98
what a cold-blooded comment about RFK death. Merryland Feb 2016 #2
It was part of her justification for staying in. dchill Feb 2016 #5
It's so weird & so off in such a peculiar & hard way Merryland Feb 2016 #13
It may explain their timid daugher. artislife Feb 2016 #44
I remember that. I hesitated to believe that even she would say something so vulgar. It was a GoneFishin Feb 2016 #3
"Anoints Herself " sufrommich Feb 2016 #8
Can she possible have 2,382 delegates after Super Tuesday? krawhitham Feb 2016 #16
Understanding probabilities mythology Feb 2016 #86
Maybe, like in Animal House, Debbie's set up "Double Secret SuperDelegates"? nt Buns_of_Fire Feb 2016 #95
Amazing, isn't it? NurseJackie Feb 2016 #17
She "Annointed" herself the winner of Iowa before 1/2 of the results we in Chasstev365 Feb 2016 #22
Yes, it's their usual pattern of denial and delusional thinking. If she wins, Lil Missy Feb 2016 #83
That was such a weird thing to say. I was left wondering if she wasn't hoping to Marr Feb 2016 #11
That is what I thought at the time in 2008 krawhitham Feb 2016 #18
I expect she will run her race all the way to the convention as well. LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #15
But president ejbr Feb 2016 #19
Let's see... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #20
Which makes her demented statement ok? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #23
Please see Post 29. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #32
You don't think that was a tactless, hurtful comment in 2008? Chasstev365 Feb 2016 #24
Her statement was taken out of context... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #29
Um... talk about bait and switch whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #35
I am sad that you find Robert F Kennedy and Cesar Chavez ... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #38
Sorry you haz a sad whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #40
I said it was taken out of context... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #41
How was it taken out of context? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #49
She said any candidate should stay in the race because he or she never knows what will happen... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #59
Good, keep her words in mind when your team is screaming for Bernie to drop out n/t whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #64
He should let his conscience dictate and stay in as long as he wants. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #66
Yep, just like Hillary's "conscience" did whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #68
I try to be civil to you and you insult me. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #71
Hate to interrupt your victim moment whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #72
All right then. I say this without snark. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #74
Plan to, same to you whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #75
Thanx DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #76
Cesar L. Chavez. Do you know much about him? Vattel Feb 2016 #63
Haven't you noticed? whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #30
Roll that beautiful bean footage: PonyUp Feb 2016 #21
one of KO's best special comments lapfog_1 Feb 2016 #82
Yep. And her husband did not "wrap up" the nomination until June! nt thereismore Feb 2016 #27
Just because you've concocted a scenario in your head frazzled Feb 2016 #28
She brought up RFK's assassination MULTIPLE times, beginning in March 2008.Here is Keith Olbermann's kath Feb 2016 #31
+1. Drop the mic! dchill Feb 2016 #34
On top of the "assassination" comments and allusions, which she made at least 4 times, here are kath Feb 2016 #37
Wow. She should consider herself very lucky for all this forgiveness. That's a lot. nt. polly7 Feb 2016 #45
Where's her supporters on this? n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #89
I don't think they do issues - and issues, these are. polly7 Feb 2016 #91
He won't continue onto the convention once the numbers are solidly against him. randome Feb 2016 #33
We aren't afraid of the name Nader artislife Feb 2016 #46
Do explain please SheenaR Feb 2016 #53
he will stsy until the convention and here is why restorefreedom Feb 2016 #36
In the highly, highly, highly...highly unlikely event she was indicted ... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #39
and he would not be nominated restorefreedom Feb 2016 #52
Delegates are pledged on the first ballot to those who won them. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #57
they might very well do that if they want a guaranteed ge loss restorefreedom Feb 2016 #60
After she whups him fair and square, and by a lot... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #61
it won't be by a lot, it will be by a hair at best restorefreedom Feb 2016 #62
It will be by a lot...Hillary actually beat Barack Obama in the pop vote in 08, albeit by a little. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #65
no, she actually didn't unless you count a state where he was not on the ballot restorefreedom Feb 2016 #67
It won't even be close enough to argue about this time... DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2016 #69
agree to disagree, for now.... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #90
After Bobby Kennedy's tragic Death we got Richard Nixon. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #42
Is this another "Get in Line!" post. artislife Feb 2016 #48
No this is a discussion of history. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2016 #92
It's the voters in the democratic primary... NCTraveler Feb 2016 #47
Well, here's your problem right here jeff47 Feb 2016 #50
Calm down gwheezie Feb 2016 #55
I thought she already had anointed herself. meh. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #56
Of course they will demand he drop out AgingAmerican Feb 2016 #58
"We all remember Bobby Kennedy.... " jack_krass Feb 2016 #70
Bernie's not in it for himself. He's in it for US, the people senz Feb 2016 #73
You know they will. Kall Feb 2016 #77
Onward to the convention. CentralMass Feb 2016 #80
Hell no he shouldn't drop out tonight after HRC wins. He should wait till Super Tuesday. Lil Missy Feb 2016 #81
Perhaps if you stopped throwing around words like "anoint"... brooklynite Feb 2016 #85
Funny Brooklynite Chasstev365 Feb 2016 #87
Who gives a shit about respect from the hillarians? Doctor_J Feb 2016 #94
Tell me - when you do phone banking for Bernie and encounter a Clinton voter... brooklynite Feb 2016 #99
That's a fair point. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2016 #88
Well, she's anointed herself with the blessed oil months ago. longship Feb 2016 #96

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
4. gets in line?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie is not a kindergartner and neither are his supporters. What a condescending comment.

still_one

(92,597 posts)
12. Of course not. Sander's made it clear from the beginning that he is not running
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:52 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)

as a spoiler, and he is running to win

Whoever gets the Democratic nominee, not only will all the Democratic candidates running for the nomination nation support the winner, so will the vast majority of the respective supporters

I really wish these sniping a threads would stop

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
6. Oh FFS are you full of yourself. No wonder people here are starting to get sick of Hillary. nt
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:47 AM
Feb 2016

dinkytron

(568 posts)
14. My 81 year old mom who loved Bill and Hillary is sick of Hillary.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

If she lost my mom, she has seriously fucked up.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
43. I don't think h can last a full campaign season
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

We have seen her mask slip away more and more of late. This may be a tough couple of days but Democratic voting states are coming up this March. The ones that actually vote for the Democrats in November elections.

Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
98. This is proof
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

That Hillary's supporters are fascists in lipstick. They've internalized all the worst aspects of Hillary.

"Bring them to heel" indeed.

Merryland

(1,134 posts)
13. It's so weird & so off in such a peculiar & hard way
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

I see this hardness in both Clintons. Recently heard a Democracy Now tape of Bill Clinton chewing Amy Goodman out - Live, when he was actually the President - in a really nasty way. I think both Clintons are hard as nails.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
3. I remember that. I hesitated to believe that even she would say something so vulgar. It was a
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:46 AM
Feb 2016

bit chilling.

Everything with them is psy-ops. At this point they have been caught in so many lies and distortions that I believe nothing they say.

I think most Bernie supporters are his supporters because they are onto to these goddamned games, and they are sick of them.

Screw them. We're in it until the end.

krawhitham

(4,651 posts)
16. Can she possible have 2,382 delegates after Super Tuesday?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:54 AM
Feb 2016

But I bet she will still say it is over and she is the winner

If not "Anoints Herself", then what do you call it?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
86. Understanding probabilities
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

Based on the proportional delegates it is hard to make up ground. But you're also making a declaration based on somebody's supposition about what Clinton will do.

That said Sanders has every right to stay in the race and telling him to get out is silly.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
22. She "Annointed" herself the winner of Iowa before 1/2 of the results we in
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:56 AM
Feb 2016

so the networks would do the same. Nice Rovian, Roger Allies 2000 Fox News Play!

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
83. Yes, it's their usual pattern of denial and delusional thinking. If she wins,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

it's only because she did it without votes, or because (name-your-conspiracy-here) happened

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
11. That was such a weird thing to say. I was left wondering if she wasn't hoping to
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:52 AM
Feb 2016

inspire a plan in some random nut. I mean, who would even think of that?

LuvLoogie

(7,092 posts)
15. I expect she will run her race all the way to the convention as well.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

The partisans will do what the partisans will do.

Whoever wins the nomination will reach out to the other. Efforts will join, and partisans will have a choice to join or scatter.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
20. Let's see...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016
I wonder how Ethel Kennedy and Bobby's 10 kids felt when Hillary displayed such a zeal and desperateness for her to be president.



The Kennedys feel differently*









U S Rep. Joe Kennedy III to stump for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign in New Hampshire
http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/12/us_rep_joe_kennedy_iii_to_stum.html



Can you please cite any members of the Kennedy Family who are supporting Senator Sanders?

Thank you in advance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
29. Her statement was taken out of context...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

RFK's own namesake was one of her most enthusiastic supporter in the 08 primary:







If you don't mind I will defer to the opinion of the namesake of the martyred senator and not a random internet poster with an axe to grind.


Thank you in advance.

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
35. Um... talk about bait and switch
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:11 PM
Feb 2016

You provide an insipid campaign ad to support your claim that her statement was taken out of context?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
38. I am sad that you find Robert F Kennedy and Cesar Chavez ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:16 PM
Feb 2016
Um... talk about bait and switchYou provide an insipid campaign ad to support your claim that her statement was taken out of context?[/div


I am sad that you would state that Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Cesar Chavez would participate in "an insipid campaign" ad:





DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
41. I said it was taken out of context...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016
whatchamacallit
40. Sorry you haz a sad





It was a rhetorical sad...




rhetorical

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
59. She said any candidate should stay in the race because he or she never knows what will happen...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:53 PM
Feb 2016

Given the choice to make a negative or positive inference about an action taken by Secretary Clinton there are some people who will invariably make the former, every single time.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
71. I try to be civil to you and you insult me.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:27 PM
Feb 2016

And that reveals more about you than it can ever reveal about me...





lapfog_1

(29,251 posts)
82. one of KO's best special comments
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

and heavily researched the statements of Hillary to prove that

a) she had made such offensive statements before, so this was no accident
b) she knew they were offensive because she modified them to remove the assassination remark.
c) she went back to the assassination reference later, when she was clearly losing

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
28. Just because you've concocted a scenario in your head
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

doesn't mean it has any basis in reality. Hillary Clinton will not "anoint herself the Democratic nominee tonight." And there will be no demands that he drop out immediately. I can guarantee that. But I can also guarantee that after next week, if any print or television analyst suggests that the math is becoming almost insurmountable, you will quite probably say that "Hillary" has anointed herself and that her "supporters" have demanded that Bernie quit. But it still won't be true.

kath

(10,565 posts)
31. She brought up RFK's assassination MULTIPLE times, beginning in March 2008.Here is Keith Olbermann's
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:05 PM
Feb 2016

Special comment on that, PLUS many other racist and inappropriate comments she made during that campaign:



here is a transcript, if you prefer that to watching the video. http://americablog.com/2008/05/keith-olbermanns-special-comment-about-hillary-clinton-invoking-bobby-kennedys-assassination.html


Only a horrible human being would make such statements. truly disgusting.

kath

(10,565 posts)
37. On top of the "assassination" comments and allusions, which she made at least 4 times, here are
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:15 PM
Feb 2016

Other little gems that came out of her mouth during that campaign (from transcript of the K Olbermann comment):

God knows, Senator, in this campaign, this nation has **had** to forgive you, early and often…

And despite your now traditional position of the offended victim, the nation **has** forgiven you.

We have forgiven you your insistence that there have been widespread calls for you to end your campaign, when such calls had been few.

We have forgiven you your misspeaking about Martin Luther King’s relative importance to the Civil Rights movement.

We have forgiven you your misspeaking about your under-fire landing in Bosnia.

We have forgiven you insisting Michigan’s vote wouldn’t count and then claiming those who would not count it were Un-Democratic.

We have forgiven you pledging to not campaign in Florida and thus disenfranchise voters there, and then claim those who stuck to those rules were as wrong as those who defended slavery or denied women the vote.

We have forgiven you the photos of Osama Bin Laden in an anti-Obama ad…

We have forgiven you fawning over the fairness of Fox News while they were still calling you a murderer.

We have forgiven you accepting Richard Mellon Scaife’s endorsement and then laughing as you described his “deathbed conversion.”

We have forgiven you quoting the electoral predictions of Boss Karl Rove.

We have forgiven you the 3 A-M Phone Call commercial.

We have forgiven you **President** Clinton’s disparaging comparison of the Obama candidacy to Jesse Jackson’s.

We have forgiven you Geraldine Ferraro’s national radio interview suggesting Obama would not still be in the race had he been a white man.

We have forgiven you the dozen changing metrics and the endless self-contradictions of your insistence that your nomination is mathematically probable rather than a statistical impossibility.

We have forgiven you your declaration of some primary states as counting and some as not.

We have forgiven you exploiting Jeremiah Wright in front of the editorial board of the lunatic-fringe Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

We have forgiven you exploiting William Ayers in front of the debate on ABC.

We have forgiven you for boasting of your “support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans”…

We have even forgiven you repeatedly praising Senator McCain at Senator Obama’s expense, and your **own** expense, and the Democratic **ticket’s** expense.


http://americablog.com/2008/05/keith-olbermanns-special-comment-about-hillary-clinton-invoking-bobby-kennedys-assassination.html

polly7

(20,582 posts)
91. I don't think they do issues - and issues, these are.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:51 PM
Feb 2016

'When people show you who they are, believe them' - Maya Angelou -(a quote my Grandma used to say to me whenever someone had hurt me and she'd listened to the whole story.)

This amount of 'forgiveness' sums up someone's thinking and real views, imo. That she's had to evolve now because of Sanders unexpected rise, which she'd never have done otherwise doesn't change who she really is. The fact that she's close friends with and has accepted millions from those who've gotten rich off the backs of the poor and middle class just confirms it, for me.

They can't defend this. They can't discuss the issues. All they seem to be able to do is demonize Sanders because of his terrible, horrible supporters. And that's pretty *'ing sad.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
33. He won't continue onto the convention once the numbers are solidly against him.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:09 PM
Feb 2016

If he does continue, without a hope of winning, he will go down in history as just another Ralph Nader.
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artislife

(9,497 posts)
46. We aren't afraid of the name Nader
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:36 PM
Feb 2016

Are you afraid of the name Perot? Because that is why Bill got in the first time.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
53. Do explain please
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016

How he would be a Nader if he stays in until the convention since she will not have reached 2382 by then in pledged delegates.

It makes zero sense but I'm sure you thought it was witty when you typed it.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
36. he will stsy until the convention and here is why
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:13 PM
Feb 2016

he has to claim his delegstes and not concede until they nominate her. they are trying to hold off indicting until they force him out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511352449

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
39. In the highly, highly, highly...highly unlikely event she was indicted ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:20 PM
Feb 2016

In the highly, highly, highly...highly unlikely even she was indicted the delegates she won would go to Joe Biden.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
52. and he would not be nominated
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:53 PM
Feb 2016

because even if they legally could, to nominate someone who didn't win (becsuse they opted not to run) over someone who campaigned his guts out and will be bringing close to half of the pledged delegates (in that scenario), the party would implode.

thanks for your thoughts dsb!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
57. Delegates are pledged on the first ballot to those who won them.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:50 PM
Feb 2016

If there is no winner on the first ballot they are released to vote for whomever they want. Since the delegates she won were chosen for their loyalty to her it is only logical to assume they would vote for the person most similar to her if she dropped out of the race and that would be Joe Biden...

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
60. they might very well do that if they want a guaranteed ge loss
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:01 PM
Feb 2016

not to mention the downtickets, and the dem party itself after it implodes by disenfranchising all of bernies supporters.

methinks they are much wiser than that.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
61. After she whups him fair and square, and by a lot...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:05 PM
Feb 2016

After she whups him fair and square, and by a lot, what is the basis for his moral claim to the nomination ?

Don't the voter who contributed to her giving him a whuppin have a voice?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
62. it won't be by a lot, it will be by a hair at best
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:08 PM
Feb 2016

i won't even get into the issue of fair and square, because imo that ship, captained by andy mcguire, already sailed.

edit....but her voters should have a voice..i am speaking of a situation where she has to step down and its up to the party.

they will have to nominate the only other runner or risk catastrophe...

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
65. It will be by a lot...Hillary actually beat Barack Obama in the pop vote in 08, albeit by a little.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:11 PM
Feb 2016

The pop vote at the end will be over 55% in her favor.


You can bookmark this post.


restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
67. no, she actually didn't unless you count a state where he was not on the ballot
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:15 PM
Feb 2016

Q: Did Clinton win the popular vote?
A: Obama won more votes unless you count Michigan, where he wasn’t on the ballot.
FULL QUESTION
Did Hillary Clinton actually end up with more popular votes than Barack Obama? Given that there is some discussion on whether to count the popular votes of Michigan and Florida, as well as how to count caucus votes, who did end up with the higher count?
FULL ANSWER
After the primary season wrapped up on Tuesday, Clinton commended her supporters and claimed once again that she had won the popular vote: "Nearly 18 million of you cast your votes for our campaign, carrying the popular vote with more votes than any primary candidate in history."
Did she? Now that all the primaries and caucuses are over we can take one, final look.
Obama won more total votes than Clinton in the contests where they both appeared on the ballot. Clinton won the popular vote only if you count votes from Michigan, where Obama’s name did not appear on the ballot.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/clinton-and-the-popular-vote/

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
69. It won't even be close enough to argue about this time...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

Senator Sanders will be lucky to get 40% of the votes this primary season.

Bookmark this post.

Out of the ten most populous states in the nation he will not even win one.

Again, please bookmark this post.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
90. agree to disagree, for now....
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:42 PM
Feb 2016

and no bullshit, but seriously, how does one "bookmark" a post?

i post and have a tiny ignore list....don't have all functions down, although after 12 years i should.....

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
42. After Bobby Kennedy's tragic Death we got Richard Nixon.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:28 PM
Feb 2016

Following Edward Kennedy's loss in the 1980 Primary after the Super Tuesday primaries on June 3rd of 1980, American's elected Reagan.

If Trump wins the nomination by March 15th, continuing a fratricidal contest between Democrats will give Republicans a huge advantage.

I would like my vote in the Presidential Primary on June 7 to mean something besides a coronation or protest. In our modern system it makes more sense to end the primary earlier and get Sanders on the road to Campaign for Clinton.

But if he wants to hang on to the very end, that is his choice. We can only hope, then, that Republican Donors use their anti-trump option.

Donors ask GOP consulting firm to research independent presidential bid
Conservative donors have engaged a major GOP consulting firm in Florida to research the feasibility of mounting a late, independent run for president amid growing fears that Donald Trump could win the Republican nomination.
A memo prepared for the group zeroes in on ballot access as a looming obstacle for any independent candidate, along with actually identifying a viable, widely known contender and coalescing financial support for that person. The two states with the earliest deadlines for independent candidates, Texas and North Carolina, also have some of the highest hurdles for independents to get on the ballot, according to the research.

“All this research has to happen before March 16, when inevitably Trump is the nominee, so that we have a plan in place," a source familiar with the discussions said. March 16 is the day after the GOP primary in Florida, a winner-take-all contest that Marco Rubio supporters have identified as a must-win to stop Trump's early momentum.
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
48. Is this another "Get in Line!" post.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

The h supporters are so fond of calling h tough and being vetted. What is a couple more months for her. It will make her razor sharp if she wins a long, protacted battle in the primary.

Isn't that what you have told us again and again.

No free ride for h.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
92. No this is a discussion of history.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:59 PM
Feb 2016

and the possibility of a third party run for a Republican.

Sanders will be out there campaigning for Clinton, if she wins the nomination, and I suspect he will vote for her. Sanders knows that she is a thousand times better than any Republicans. He simply prefers himself to her.



 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
47. It's the voters in the democratic primary...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:38 PM
Feb 2016

That are bringing on her victory. Love the anointed crap. Who a majority of the people are backing matters.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
55. Calm down
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:57 PM
Feb 2016

If Hillary wins more delegates, she will be the nominee. Bernie can run until there is no chance mathematically but even then, I hope he is viable enough that say if Hillary should drop dead, he can step in. I've said this from the beginning and I support HRC, I wanted at least another candidate because anything can happen. It's just pragmatic and that's not a bad word.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
73. Bernie's not in it for himself. He's in it for US, the people
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:32 PM
Feb 2016

and WE don't want him to quit.

The longer Bernie runs, the greater the likelihood of the political revolution that will return America to a healthy democracy.

Hill fans cannot understand Bernie's motivation. It is beyond them, at present.

Maybe someday they will understand. But we can't wait for them.

Kall

(615 posts)
77. You know they will.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:47 PM
Feb 2016

The indignation over attacks on universal health care seems to be very selectively applied too.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
81. Hell no he shouldn't drop out tonight after HRC wins. He should wait till Super Tuesday.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 02:59 PM
Feb 2016

I want to see his numbers on Super Tuesday with him IN the race still.

brooklynite

(95,174 posts)
85. Perhaps if you stopped throwing around words like "anoint"...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:04 PM
Feb 2016

...you'd get more respect from the Clinton people.

Sanders has shown he can win a Primary; he's apparently about to show he can lose several. That decision is being made by actual Democratic voters, as much as you'd apparently like to blame someone else.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
87. Funny Brooklynite
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:12 PM
Feb 2016

You are one of my all time favor posters on DU. I mean it seriously! I'm sure when September rolls around most of us will start to come together to stop the GOP. However right now, it seems to many of us Bernie Sanders supporters that Hillary and her supporters feel she is entitled to be the Democratic nominee, hence the anointed remark. While I would vote for her over any Republican, I personally will never forgive the RFK remark.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
94. Who gives a shit about respect from the hillarians?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:14 PM
Feb 2016

They like war and TPP and are against healthcare for all. I would be mortified if they respected me.

brooklynite

(95,174 posts)
99. Tell me - when you do phone banking for Bernie and encounter a Clinton voter...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 05:02 PM
Feb 2016

...do you thank them for their time and move on, or do you chew them out for being detestable neo-liberal DINOs?

I wondering if this might be part of Bernie's problem.

longship

(40,416 posts)
96. Well, she's anointed herself with the blessed oil months ago.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:18 PM
Feb 2016

It's her turn, after all. (Seems like we've all heard that line before, like in 2012 or there abouts. BTW, it didn't work then.)

I think it is called hubris. And a political campaign based on hubris is always in danger.

And that goes for both Bernie supporters and Hillary supporters. Dial it down, people. Dial it way down. You are just dividing the party.

Wake up sheeple! The idiots are crossing the battlements. Let's not fight ourselves when the enemy is at the gates.

And no! I do not want to read about who can and who cannot beat any arbitrary putative GOP nominee.

I think a great president said something about that once...

"Unite we stand; divided we fall."

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