"Would you say that Hillary Clinton is honest and trustworthy or not?"

[berni_mccoy]

67% of America says Hillary IS NOT trustworthy.

68% of America says Sanders IS trustworthy.

"Would you say that Hillary Clinton has strong leadership qualities or not?"

55% of America says she has strong leadership.

57% of America says Bernie has strong leadership.

"Would you say that Hillary Clinton cares about the needs and problems of people like you or not?"

55% of America says Hillary DOES NOT care.

61% of America says Bernie DOES care about the needs and problems of Americans.

Who is more electable now?

Source: Quinnipiac poll taken Feb 18th of 1342 voters +/- 2.7%. http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us02182016_Urpfd42.pdf

[ladjf]

1. I agree with all of the above polls about Hillary and Bernie. nt

[roguevalley]

16. don't worry. someone will say cornell west invalidates all of it.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

2. I stand with the majority

...

[yourpaljoey]

3. the headline made me chuckle

I needed that

[berni_mccoy]

24. I'd laugh too if it weren't such a sad state of affairs

[seaotter]

4. Most telling is that Hillary has been unable to move those numbers in any meaningful way.

She is a flawed candidate who will not win in the general.

[Cal33]

5. The trouble is, there are still too many people who don't know about this. The anti-Sanders

people are still rather successful in their efforts at keeping him away from the public, although
they are becoming less and less effective. If Sanders only had the full publicity he deserved
right from the start, he'd have been the front runner today.

[BainsBane]

6. Yes, the many millions spent by the GOP attack machine has paid off

and created that FALSE perception that Clinton is dishonest, but if you probe specific points those claims don't hold up.


Clinton's statements by ruling

Click on the ruling to see all of Clinton's statements for that ruling.

True40 (25%)(40)
Mostly True42 (26%)(42)
Half True34 (21%)(34)
Mostly False23 (14%)(23)
False20 (12%)(20)
Pants on Fire2 (1%

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/

Sanders's statements by ruling

Click on the ruling to see all of Sanders's statements for that ruling.

True10 (16%)(10)
Mostly True21 (33%)(21)
Half True13 (20%)(13)
Mostly False10 (16%)(10)
False10 (16%)(10)
Pants on Fire
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/bernie-s/

Politifact rates 51% of Clinton's statements true or mostly true, compared to 49% of Sanders.

[berni_mccoy]

7. Lol! Sniper fire, enlistment stories, on and on...

Hillary has done this all on her own. If there are words coming out of her mouth, there is a good chance you shouldn't take them at face value.

[Ichingcarpenter]

15. Hillary doesn't know what going viral means...No really she doesn't

which means she doesn't understand a major portion of technology of the past century and this century and why her words in the past matter and go viral

About that cloth hillary ?




Clinton not knowing what ''going viral '' meant


Poor Hillary Clinton; first she didn’t know how to work a fax machine, then she didn’t know how to email from a computer, and now on Tuesday she seemed to admit she doesn’t know what “going viral” means.

The anecdote comes to us courtesy of The New York Times.

When a voter approached her at a polling station at Parker Varney School in Manchester, N.H., on Tuesday to ask for a picture, he explained that his friend had taken a selfie with the former first lady on Monday and he was jealous because the shot “went viral.”

“You went viral?” Mrs. Clinton said to the man’s friend. “That sounds like some kind of disease.”

The use of the word “viral” to describe fast-spreading content dates back to the dawn of the Internet Age. The idiom “gone viral” was used by Newsweek in a 1999 article, for example.

http://www.mediaite.com/print/hillary-clinton-has-no-idea-what-going-viral-means/

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/stephen-colbert-mercilessly-mocks-hillary-for-marketing-on-aol/

[berni_mccoy]

17. Many politicians (more on the right than the left) seem to forget the things they've said

until someone shows them the YouTube video of them saying it. And then you hear the excuses start flying.

Hillary is also suffering from this technical illiteracy.

[wiggs]

23. politifact aside, these perceptions are CREATED by the gop and the media

and become assumptions or givens. Then...the media and pollsters announce that this is the way the public feels, as though they didn't have something to do with it.

...It's like when Cheney fed misinformation to the NYT and then quoted the NYT article as evidence for his argument.

...It's like when the public option initially had the support of 70% of the public prior to the gop pissing all over it for years until the polls eventually reflected the meme of disfavor...now the gop gets to say that the public is against the ACA and any govt health care support because some polls say that.

There's a reason for media consolidation and for corporate media ownership. It's much easier for pundits and journalists to just refer to the meme and the drama than it is to point out the actual facts (especially when it serves the policy purposes of the corporate owners). It's good TV, good ratings, to hang simple characterizations around the necks of public figures rather than confuse viewers with shades of gray.

No...I don't believe Clinton is especially dishonest or untrustworthy because I hope I'm not a low information voter and I've looked into issues and have decided for myself if having a private email server at that time is tantamount to crime, misdemeanor, poor judgement, or dishonesty....and have decided for myself if she lied or not...and have decided for myself whether or not the tens of thousands of released emails are remarkable for what they reveal or if they are remarkable for LACK of much of interest. I see her give speeches and participate in debates and I don't see dishonesty or lack of authenticity. Just don't.

Having said that, I also see that Bernie is above reproach in those regards. Amazing, genuine person and politician. I've been listening to his brunch with bernie hours for years and IMO he's a terrific person, a great mind, straightforward, and I'm not sure I've ever heard anything on the issues that I would disagree with.

Both are good people, IMO. One is a better primary candidate than the other. One is probably more ready for the ugly world of the general election and governing than the other. But both are good people. IMHO.

[Jarqui]

30. You can't blame all of the lies and flip-flops on the GOP and media

When she does it and the media exposes it? That helps spread the word. But they can't spread the word unless she's really lied.

There are 340 videos on Youtube addressing her lying and a bunch more on her flip-flops. It's a staggering collection.

And these lies are usually demonstrated by playing a clip before showing her saying one thing followed by a clip after showing her contradicting what she just said in the prior clip.Hillary exposing Hillary leaves no one to blame but Hillary.

Now you might holler "CONTEXT!!" and may have a point on a few. But the volume is too immense to dismiss it.

I kind of covered this here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511300121#post48

[cali]

25. No. It's more what Hillary has done and said than the convenient

Vast Right wing conspiracy. At every turn she's given them ammunition.

[Politicalboi]

28. Dream on

I've heard her lies. She is going to set us back when the GOP win in November. Who is hated more by the GOP? They will be out in DROVES to vote AGAINST her. She has so much baggage they won't be able to get through it all by November.

[Raster]

37. as has been pointed out before...

Red America will crawl across broken glass and through fire to VOTE AGAINST HILLARY CLINTON.

I live in blood red Maricopa County (Joe Arapio, anyone?), in blood red Arizona. When you mention Bernie Sanders, people are willing to listen, maybe ask a question or two. When you mention Hillary... their faces contort and flush with anger, they fling spittle from their almost-rabid mouths as they violently spit out the words Hillary Clinton.

By hook and by crook (emphasis on "the crook&quot , Hillary Clinton will most likely be the Democrats nominee for the Presidency. She has the party's elite and faithful working overtime to pave the way for her gucci'd feet. But, she is unelectable in the general election. FAR TOO MANY NEGATIVES.

[Skwmom]

8. And in the GE those numbers will climb even higher. n/t

[amborin]

10. this

[berni_mccoy]

18. Yep.

[uponit7771]

9. After millions in tax payer money spent by GOP in trying to tank her honesty numbers this is no ...

... surprise.

Sanders will have a harder time than HRC though

[berni_mccoy]

12. Please, she's done it all by herself.

See response 7 above.

[uponit7771]

13. Bhengazi was not all buy itself, what are we freeperville now?!

[berni_mccoy]

14. Every Hillary supporter here says the Bhengazi hearings were a gift

Showing her strength and fortitude. Republican asshats gave her positive polling numbers and sympathy from the general public.

[uponit7771]

32. The subject was what the GOP has done to HRC so HRC didn't MAKE them get the Bhengazi hearings

[TTUBatfan2008]

21. What do you think they will do in a general election?

She has received zero negative campaigning from Sanders on the FBI situation. Zero negative campaigning from either Obama or Sanders on the Bosnia sniper fire situation. Zero negative campaigning from Sanders on the Clinton Foundation donations while she was Secretary of State. The GOP will not hold back on these subjects at all.

[cali]

27. After all her in your face conflicts of interest

After her lies and evasions,

And sorry hill will have it much, much tougher than Bernie. She is toxic. I'll be blaming her supporters, among others, in November.

[Politicalboi]

29. That may have cost them $1.00

Tank her honesty.

She did that ALL on her own. She stands NO chance. Just like Medicare for all NO CHANCE!

[uponit7771]

33. Yes, cost them 1usd but cost Americans public millions

[panader0]

11. Oh hell yes! All repubs except Cruz are viewed as MORE HONEST THAN HILLARY!

[berni_mccoy]

22. Sad isn't it that she's fooled so many Democrats into supporting her?

[Hydra]

34. Sad state of affairs

That anyone to the Right of Bernie gets a trustworthy rating above single digits.

I heard 30% of Americans think they are in the 1% though...maybe that explains it?

[bobthedrummer]

19. She, like many others in positions of authority, is not honest nor trustworthy. Like Kissinger.

Bill Clinton: "Hillary didn't study lists of my contributors." (CNN interview June 2015)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/11/politics/bill-clinton-foundation-hillary-2016

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. Obviously, the people have turned into Reds, Hippies, Idealists, who are out of touch with reality.

All of them drooling for "free stuff" and unicorns.

Or, maybe they have seen the "reality" of the political/corporate state and oppose it.

[Purveyor]

26. These numbers just aren't improving and I doubt that they will. eom

[Punkingal]

31. They won't.

[Major Hogwash]

35. 86% of members of DU agree with this poll.

The other 14% . . not so much.

[Raster]

36. Unfortunately Hillary may eke out a victory in the primaries*, becoming the Dem nominee...

...But I don't think she is nationally electable. Her negatives are way too high with too many people.

But we certainly can't let a little problem like national unelectability sway the Good Ship Clinton from it's rightful course, now can we? After all, it is Hill's turn, and Bill and Hill have their "Date with Destiny." Gosh I long for the good ol' days when Bill's "Date with Destiny" was a stripper he picked up in an Arkansas roadhouse.
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*Most likely the only way for Hillary to secure the nomination is the bought-and-paid-for "super" delegates, which go against EVERYTHING democratic principles stand for.