Why do you have to do this? Hillary won today - so why do you have to spread untruths about Bernie's

[jillan]

supporters?

I felt terrible when I heard the story of what happened to Delores Huerta. I thought - oh please Bernie supporters - DON"T do this!

And it turns out it wasn't even true! The people in the room were shouting NEUTRAL!

And why was she even speaking in Spanish anyway? If she was wanting to communicate to people that did not speak English she should of had someone standing next to her to translate her words into English because not everyone in that room speaks Spanish!!

Instead of celebrating winning a hard fought caucus, some of you chose to attack Bernie supporters for something they did not even do.

Shameful!

[LexVegas]

1. " And why was she even speaking in Spanish anyway?"

And there it is.

[jillan]

4. Did ya miss the part where I said without a translator standing next to her?

my gosh!

[tammywammy]

13. Well they ended up with no Spanish translation of what was going on. n/t

[Ken Burch]

55. That was the moderator's fault.

Bernie's supporters didn't want that to happen...they just wanted a neutral translator.

Why was that so much to ask?

[Starry Messenger]

26. Right?

[Bubzer]

56. Wrong.

[Hissyspit]

29. No, it's not.

[frylock]

39. Keep it up, man.

[djean111]

2. it is how they roll. How their campaign rolls. nt

[frylock]

40. In shit, like a dog.

[Peregrine Took]

54. So true...and then they will want us all to forget the filthy tricks

And join hands with them in November. I have a long, long memory.

[Bubzer]

57. Same here.

[farleftlib]

3. a clean win is no fun for them

They need to smear Bernie and his supporters even when the smear has been thoroughly debunked.

[dinkytron]

45. Its all part of the kitchen sink Bernie knew was coming.

[dchill]

52. They can't GET a clean win.

[noretreatnosurrender]

5. It gets worse

It gets worse than that...now they are trying to bait people into knocking Huerta. It's the same thing they did with John Lewis. It's really sad to see. Those of us who see what they're doing will not be able to forget them very easily. Not very bright if you want people to come together after a primary. If their candidate wins it's going to be really hard for a lot of people to rally around the candidate. It's just not necessary to do these kind of things and it really needs to stop.

[jillan]

7. Exactly!

[villager]

27. It's pretty disgusting -- the vituperation, and perpetual "gotcha" politics, instead of building the

...coalition they'll need in the fall, to defeat the GOP candidate.

[TDale313]

6. I don't get it, either.

They are out to destroy him and anyone who dared support him, and it's just fucking ugly.

[farleftlib]

9. careful

I got a hide for saying that a comment was ugly.

[Live and Learn]

22. Really? WTF That is perfectly within TOS. nt

[farleftlib]

34. It was badly phrased

but I thought it was obvious I was talking about the comment and not the commenter but it got locked anyway.

[Live and Learn]

37. Yep, can't give them any excuse. Some pounce like vultures if given any opportunity. nt

[Nanjeanne]

10. They have to. He is winning the Latino vote. They need to smear him to sway people away.

[Jackilope]

25. Time and time again, the heels are dug in despite debunking and truth shown.

There seems to be an active dislike and expectation that surely Sanders or Sanders supporters are racist -- despite that fact that we are embracing Sanders message that when we ALL come together there is nothing we can't do.

I am befuddled. It is acknowledged that when it comes to stepping in it regarding racism, the Clintons aren't saints. It does seem that despite the Clinton's past transgressions, Sanders must work doubly hard and despite that will never be good enough, nor are his supporters. This is directed at a candidate and his supporters that are tired of a corrupt system.

This latest business with "English only" uproar, posts, then eventual walk back and "oops, my bad" is just one more example of how quickly HRC advocates are desperate to divide.

[virtualobserver]

53. they only care about winning

imagining that they care about anything else is a waste of time. Once they have won, they will care about other things.

[Nanjeanne]

8. It should have been a neutral person at the caucus

It is wrong for a surrogate to be the one doing the translation. That's a simple fact. It wasn't a Clinton rally she was translating at.

She was wrong in what she heard. It happens. But she should admit it and say "sorry" and we can all move on from it.

[plus5mace]

11. I thought Hillary must be losing to go this negative.

Now I realize she really hates us and wants us to leave the Democratic Party.

[morningfog]

16. She is losing. She has bled support in every state.

She has lost 30-40 point leads everywhere.

[Bohemianwriter]

12. How many times....

does one have to cry wolf before people will stop reacting and not give a shit?

I am referring to all the venom emanating from the Hillary camp.
It's like walking into a snakepit sometimes..
Or a wrestling storyline...

Let's face it, American politics have become like pro-wrestling...

[jillan]

14. Amen to that! I would hope they would be celebrating tonite instead of this.

[Bohemianwriter]

15. *And when called out on it..

they double down...
It's like they have watched FOX and GOP as instruction videos...

[jillan]

18. I literally felt terrible about this when I heard what supposedly happened.... and now to find out

it wasn't even true?

The burn I am feeling right now is not because of Bernie. I am pissed.

[Bohemianwriter]

21. Makes me lose...

hope in humanity even more...

[Live and Learn]

23. I honestly can't wait till the primaries are over so I can put them all on ignore.

I don't normally use it but there are quite a few that I never need to hear from again.

[villager]

30. Yeah -- it's neither very "Democratic" nor certainly "Underground" with these Lee Atwater-y posters

nt.

[Arazi]

17. NV was way too close and Bernie won the Latino vote

the smackdown has to start immediately since a huge part of their firewall just disintegrated

If it takes lying, well, that's HRC's trademark

[amborin]

42. this is a great analysis; they've apparently succeeded in

using lies, smears, and outright fraud to alienate a significant portion of
the African American vote; now they're trying the same tactics
to alienate Latinos; don't think it will work, though

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. It is... the politics of personal destruction

tm 1990s... and when I came out of a movie theater to read about maybe dirty tricks... what canI say? I had to laugh.

[giftedgirl77]

20. Holy shit, so now whenever we want to speak our native language

we should have a translator standing by so as to not offend those that can't understand?

[jillan]

24. Maybe what is needed is a translator to translate English since that's what was lost in translation.

Neutral doesn't even sound like English Only!

[pa28]

28. False attacks appealing to race and sex will have lasting consequences.

If Hillary wins the nomination she'll find many previously loyal Democrats have been alienated beyond the point of return. They've just gone too far.

[merrily]

31. Hillary was once 40 percent ahead in Nevada. She didn't win by much and Bernie won the

the Hispanic vote, which he wasn't supposed to be able to do.

[amborin]

43. by any sane standard, the Nevada results have highlighted how weak a candidate Hillary is; nt

[d_legendary1]

51. Apparently winning by 6% = kicking Trump's ass

despite the fact that he's winning by 10% or more. At this rate she will most likely lose to a Republican. I'm voting for her should she win, but the outlook is bleak at best.

[jfern]

32. They are the worst sore winners I have ever seen

[desmiller]

33. I believe that

They're trying to tarnish Bernie through his supporters - even if they have to lie about it. If they can't attack Bernie directly, attack the lifeline of his campaign - his supporters.

[Skwmom]

35. Because when you falsely accuse your opponent you hope to divert attentions from your own corrupt

actions.

[ucrdem]

36. Here's what Dolores Huerta told ThnkProgress today:

“The fellow that was running the caucus said that the first person to come up to the stage could translate, so I went up. Nobody else did,” she said. “Then the Bernie people started yelling no, no, no. One of their people came up, and I suggested we both translate. But the moderator decided we would have no translation. So the Bernie people preferred we would have no translation just because I was going to do the translating. It’s ridiculous, because if I had said something that wasn’t accurate, I’m sure somebody would have corrected me.”

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/02/20/3751830/dolores-huerta-interview/

[jillan]

38. Read what you posted! THE MODERATOR SAID NO TRANSLATION - not the Bernie people FFS!

Over one hour on tape.

[Rebkeh]

41. One reason and one reason only. It's to keep Bernie on the defensive

It's harder to fight out of a defensive position than it is to hold the offensive one, even after the truth has been made public. Lies continue to circulate despite being debunked, it's how bullies win. It also demoralizes people and they disengage - which ends up helping the GOP in the end.

It's not personal, it's strategy, and it is despicable. Well, it's not personal to them, just poc. Ironically.

Edited to add: Okay more than one reason.

Also, it is bait. The more Bernie supporters raise hell about it, the more racist we appear. It doesn't help when there are actual cases of racism too... it's a quagmire.

[drray23]

44. this is splitting hair.

At the end of the day, it is because the Bernie supporters raised a stink about Huerta translating that the moderator decided to go english only because there was no consensus. A pretty nasty attitude from the Bernie camp. This effectively prevented some caucus goers who are mainly spanish speaking to fully understand the rules.

I dont see why they objected. Had Huerta purposely tried to alter what was said during translation, she surely would have been called on it by the Bernie's spanish speaking people.

[jillan]

47. It was the MODERATOR not the Bernie supporters. A Bernie supporter came up to help translate.

They were BOTH told no...

Delores' own words right here:

“The fellow that was running the caucus said that the first person to come up to the stage could translate, so I went up. Nobody else did,” she said. “Then the Bernie people started yelling no, no, no. One of their people came up, and I suggested we both translate. But the moderator decided we would have no translation. So the Bernie people preferred we would have no translation just because I was going to do the translating. It’s ridiculous, because if I had said something that wasn’t accurate, I’m sure somebody would have corrected me.”

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/02/20/3751830/dolores-huerta-interview/

[Fairgo]

46. The victim role as a work of performance art

But vapours will not propel you into the whitehouse

[SciDude]

48. I've been scouring the Internet and noticed nothing but nasty attacks from Clinton supporters.

It's a nasty truth but they want to win for the sake of winning and not for the good of the country. Most Clinton supporters comments I've seen mock and attack "Bernie Bros" and basically make it clear we are not Democrats.

I agree, I'm no longer a Democrat so I certainly won't be voting for Clinton even if she does win the nomination.

Be careful what you wish for Clinton oligarchs!

[jillan]

49. Welcome to DU!! And yes I feel the same way. The Democratic Party as left me.

I am more convinced of that today.

[restorefreedom]

50. i have a theory...

its about the convention

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511292876