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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:20 PM Feb 2016

Thanks, Hillary: ISIS Surging in Libya (they weren't there before your reckless bombing campaign)

What We Know About ISIS in Libya

The self-described Islamic State, also known as ISIS, has long been making a push to capitalize on the chaos in Libya.

For over a year, it has carried out terror attacks, taken over territory and released propaganda from its franchise in Libya. Now, a new assessment from the Pentagon states the number of ISIS fighters in Libya has doubled since the fall to over 5,000, spurring fresh debate among security officials over the possibility of foreign intervention.

Analysts and officials worry that Libya is increasingly becoming a sort of fallback option for ISIS as it loses territory and power in Syria and Iraq.

“If we look at the raw numbers, the presence of ISIS [in Libya] is definitely strengthening and growing. I think the security threat they pose is definitely going up,” Riccardo Fabiani, senior North Africa analyst at political risk research firm Eurasia Group, told The WorldPost.

The threat ISIS presents in Libya is different than in other nations, and is related both to the group's changing capabilities and to the country's ongoing instability


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/isis-presence-in-libya_us_56b369e2e4b08069c7a6352f
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Thanks, Hillary: ISIS Surging in Libya (they weren't there before your reckless bombing campaign) (Original Post) amborin Feb 2016 OP
another GOP talking point here on DU SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #1
It's a progressive talking point; numerous studies have shown her reckless role in destabilizing Lib amborin Feb 2016 #2
Spot on EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #3
This might help: dana_b Feb 2016 #5
this is a great summary of Hillary's reckless & bad judgement in Libya & Syria amborin Feb 2016 #9
Yes, and I didn't realize that dana_b Feb 2016 #10
Well, there was someone who was SoS at the time we started bombing Libya. jeff47 Feb 2016 #7
Libya and Syria are HRC's big foreign policy disasters as SOS Arazi Feb 2016 #4
and hiring them as proxies! don't forget the hiring part! MisterP Feb 2016 #6
Wait, I thought foreign policy was a strength for HRC? casperthegm Feb 2016 #8

amborin

(16,631 posts)
2. It's a progressive talking point; numerous studies have shown her reckless role in destabilizing Lib
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:23 PM
Feb 2016

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
3. Spot on
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:26 PM
Feb 2016

And her legacy continues to depress... Like the billions of weapons she signed off on to Saudi Arabia, which are now being used to commit war crimes in Yemen.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
5. This might help:
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:29 PM
Feb 2016

Gaddafi was not "deposed." He was tortured and murdered, very likely by Islamists allied with NATO forces. The "radical elements" that are causing "a lot of turmoil and trouble" in "this arc of instability" are, in fact, Islamists whom Clinton picked as allies in the region, and she has pressed to supply them with arms in Syria as well as Libya. She really rates mention as an American mover of the "instability" in the region second only to Bush and Cheney.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-bromwich/hillary-clintons-libya_b_8590130.html

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
10. Yes, and I didn't realize that
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:57 PM
Feb 2016

this part:

He (Khadafi) threatened to kill the rebels in Benghazi; the threat was dismissed by US army intelligence as improbable and poorly sourced. But Hillary Clinton overrode US intelligence, outmaneuvered the Pentagon (the secretary of defense, Robert Gates, had opposed the NATO bombing unreservedly), mobilized liberal-humanitarian and conservative pro-war opinion in the media, and talked Obama into committing the US to effect regime change in a third Middle East country.
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I knew that she was partly responsible but I didn't know that she overrode them! I thought that we (our Pentagon) had blown it too.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
7. Well, there was someone who was SoS at the time we started bombing Libya.
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

She reportedly was the one pushing for that bombing campaign, with other members of the administration skeptical that it would turn out well.

Then she said "We came, we saw, he died. Hahahaha".

And now, ISIS has a foothold in Libya, instead of super-bastard Gaddafi keeping them out.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
4. Libya and Syria are HRC's big foreign policy disasters as SOS
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:29 PM
Feb 2016

her foreign policy incompetence is a huge problem for me

casperthegm

(643 posts)
8. Wait, I thought foreign policy was a strength for HRC?
Fri Feb 19, 2016, 01:47 PM
Feb 2016

Yeesh. Well she can always say she still has that great no-fly zone idea for Syria. I mean, what could go wrong with that?

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