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Related: About this forumWhy does Hillary keep lying abt Bernie's HealthCare Plan? Is it $$$$ she got from healthcare ind?
For example, she repeatedly says that Sanders has not levelled with people about the cost of full Medicare for all, or single-payer. Really?
In other countries, single-payer is far simpler and more efficient than our present profiteering, wasteful, corporatized healthcare industry. Canada covers all of its citizens, with free choice of doctors and hospitals, for about $4,500 per capita, compared to the over $9,000 per capita cost in the U.S. system that still leaves tens of millions of people uninsured or underinsured.
Detailed studies in the New England Journal of Medicine show big savings from a single-payer system in our country.
It is Hillary Clinton who is not levelling with the people about the costs of maintaining the spiraling U.S. costs of drugs, hospital stays and insurance premiums that are the highest in the world.
The costs include: 1) the waste of well over $1 trillion a year; 2) daily denials of coverage by the Aetnas of the corporate world; 3) about forty thousand Americans dying each year, according to a peer-reviewed Harvard Medical School study, because they cannot afford health insurance to get diagnosed and treated in time; and 4) daily agonizing negotiations over insurance company denials, exclusions and bureaucratic paperwork that drive physicians up the wall.
Clinton hasn't explained why she was once for single-payer until she defined her "being practical" as refusing to take on big pharma, commercial hospital chains and the giant insurance companies. She is very "practical" about taking political contributions and speaking fees from Wall Street and the health care industry.
In other countries, single-payer is far simpler and more efficient than our present profiteering, wasteful, corporatized healthcare industry. Canada covers all of its citizens, with free choice of doctors and hospitals, for about $4,500 per capita, compared to the over $9,000 per capita cost in the U.S. system that still leaves tens of millions of people uninsured or underinsured.
Detailed studies in the New England Journal of Medicine show big savings from a single-payer system in our country.
It is Hillary Clinton who is not levelling with the people about the costs of maintaining the spiraling U.S. costs of drugs, hospital stays and insurance premiums that are the highest in the world.
The costs include: 1) the waste of well over $1 trillion a year; 2) daily denials of coverage by the Aetnas of the corporate world; 3) about forty thousand Americans dying each year, according to a peer-reviewed Harvard Medical School study, because they cannot afford health insurance to get diagnosed and treated in time; and 4) daily agonizing negotiations over insurance company denials, exclusions and bureaucratic paperwork that drive physicians up the wall.
Clinton hasn't explained why she was once for single-payer until she defined her "being practical" as refusing to take on big pharma, commercial hospital chains and the giant insurance companies. She is very "practical" about taking political contributions and speaking fees from Wall Street and the health care industry.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ralph-nader/hillary-clinton-sugarcoat_b_9222616.html
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Why does Hillary keep lying abt Bernie's HealthCare Plan? Is it $$$$ she got from healthcare ind? (Original Post)
amborin
Feb 2016
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Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees
amborin
Feb 2016
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merrily
(45,251 posts)1. Habit?
I kid. Sort of. Maybe.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)2. I've heard that money holds new influence over her
amborin
(16,631 posts)3. Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/
Hillary Clintons Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees
Hillary Clintons sudden attack on Bernie Sanders single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible not that it is a bad idea.
Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.That was certainly Clintons position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.
But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.
This means that Clinton brought in almost as much in speech fees from the health care industry as she did from the banking industry. As a matter of perspective, recall that most Americans dont earn $2.8 million over their lifetimes.
Hillary Clintons record on single-payer dates back to 1993, when she was tasked to help formulate White House policy. According to the notes of former Clinton confidante Diane Blair, Clinton told her husband during a dinner in February 1993 that managed competition a private health insurance market was a crock, single payer necessary; maybe add to Medicare.
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In 2008, a young medical student named Lisa Goldman queried Clinton about health care during an event she held in New Haven, Connecticut. Goldman told the Boston Globe that Clinton said she believed the plan to be politically unfeasible at the time, however if a bill establishing it reached her desk, she would sign it into law.
We dont have one size fits all; our country is quite diverse. What works in New York City wont work in Albuquerque, she told an assorted audience of 20,000 employees of the electronic health records industry on February 26, 2014; the speech earned her $225,500.
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Hillary Clintons Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees
Hillary Clintons sudden attack on Bernie Sanders single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible not that it is a bad idea.
Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.That was certainly Clintons position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.
But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.
This means that Clinton brought in almost as much in speech fees from the health care industry as she did from the banking industry. As a matter of perspective, recall that most Americans dont earn $2.8 million over their lifetimes.
Hillary Clintons record on single-payer dates back to 1993, when she was tasked to help formulate White House policy. According to the notes of former Clinton confidante Diane Blair, Clinton told her husband during a dinner in February 1993 that managed competition a private health insurance market was a crock, single payer necessary; maybe add to Medicare.
snip
In 2008, a young medical student named Lisa Goldman queried Clinton about health care during an event she held in New Haven, Connecticut. Goldman told the Boston Globe that Clinton said she believed the plan to be politically unfeasible at the time, however if a bill establishing it reached her desk, she would sign it into law.
We dont have one size fits all; our country is quite diverse. What works in New York City wont work in Albuquerque, she told an assorted audience of 20,000 employees of the electronic health records industry on February 26, 2014; the speech earned her $225,500.
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Important OP and thread.
libtodeath
(2,888 posts)6. Excellent questions!
kristopher
(29,798 posts)7. That seems probably, doesn't it? nt