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EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:28 AM Feb 2016

Bill Clinton throw Obama under the bus (video)

This video shows Bill blaming Obama for Wall St corruption - which is of course funding his wife's campaign... if only Obama had done a better job making change then his wife wouldn't be so beholden to the rigged system... but don't worry, Hillary is only beholden to the rigged system until she's President... then she'll really make change... like using mob money to set up the FBI to fight the mob... what could go wrong...





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Bill Clinton throw Obama under the bus (video) (Original Post) EdwardBernays Feb 2016 OP
Sanders years of consummate Obama bashing isn't going to be changed by any 1 or 2 statements uponit7771 Feb 2016 #1
if EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #2
What's NOT authentic is Sanders NOT being straight up with voters and saying exactly what you uponit7771 Feb 2016 #4
hmm EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #5
...then they spell cheK you but I too digress. No, Sanders should be more clear that he doesn't like uponit7771 Feb 2016 #8
huh? EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #10
1. Your video is from 2015 and I mentioned the CURRENT SCENE ... good try though uponit7771 Feb 2016 #11
you realise EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #12
You're right- Bill went off script. Divernan Feb 2016 #17
Bill has never forgiven Obama for beating his wife in 08. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #3
^^^ This ^^^ - Funny How Those Facts Have Become So Forgotten cantbeserious Feb 2016 #14
Why don't you post the extended clip? boston bean Feb 2016 #6
I don't have it EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #7
hmmmm uponit7771 Feb 2016 #9
Whoops, looks like they got their lines crossed Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #13
The strategy seems to be Bill trashes in white states. joshcryer Feb 2016 #15
Don't forget EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #18
It is unbelievable. joshcryer Feb 2016 #19
He just can't get over the fact we preferred Obama to the two for one couple. Skwmom Feb 2016 #16

uponit7771

(90,152 posts)
1. Sanders years of consummate Obama bashing isn't going to be changed by any 1 or 2 statements
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:37 AM
Feb 2016

... Bill makes.

Sanders is now running away from his consommate Obama bashing and I've not seen hide or hair of his Obama bashers Cornell West or Bigga.

Authentic my ass...

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
2. if
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:41 AM
Feb 2016

he was running on the idea of continuing Obama's legacy, you'd have a point, but a campaign like Hillary's which is based on the Obama legacy can't embrace it, then on the other hand trash it as being responsible for a rigged financial system.

This is the problem Clinton has - she can't pretend to be Sanders - her new strategy - without figuring out a way to talk about the corrupt financial system that ALSO shields her from criticism......

This is just attempt one - blame Obama... she's corrupt because of Obama, but don't worry she'll continue his legacy...

That's what happens when you lie all the time - eventually your lies run into each other and your narrative collapses... Hillary 2016.

uponit7771

(90,152 posts)
4. What's NOT authentic is Sanders NOT being straight up with voters and saying exactly what you
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:48 AM
Feb 2016

... said about him NOT continue Obama's legacy cause he knows damn well he'll be rejected out right.

Clinton doesn't need to be Sanders just a continuation of one of the most popular and progressive dem presidents in US history.

Bill Clinton obviously went off script, I have yet to see this as a theme of the Clinton's being to blame Obama as Sanders has...

That's not passing mustered now

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
5. hmm
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 06:58 AM
Feb 2016

I don't want to be that guy but, before I respond to that:

It's pass muster... no one is "passing mustered". And consummate, not "consommate".

And "hide nor hair" not "hide or hair".

But I digress.

"What's NOT authentic is Sanders NOT being straight up with voters and saying exactly what you said about him NOT continue Obama's legacy cause he knows damn well he'll be rejected out right."

If I understand this, you are saying that Sanders should be more clear about wanting to do something different to what Obama has done. Like free university education, and universal health care? Like decriminalising cannabis on a federal level? Like putting a tax on the wealthy to fund social programs?

It's ABSOLUTELY clear that Sanders wants to start with what we have that's working and making it better - as he sees things. And if something is NOT working, change it. No one is confused by this but you seemingly. It's pretty much the whole reason people support Sanders...

uponit7771

(90,152 posts)
8. ...then they spell cheK you but I too digress. No, Sanders should be more clear that he doesn't like
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:18 AM
Feb 2016

... Obama, associating his campaign with overt racialized bomb throwers like West and Bigga like he did in IA who, by the whey, are suspiciously missing from his current scene in SC ....establishes that.





uponit7771

(90,152 posts)
11. 1. Your video is from 2015 and I mentioned the CURRENT SCENE ... good try though
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:31 AM
Feb 2016

...2. Doesn't "dislike" = still not good enough and Sanders is not going to say in front of the SEC state audiences who are full of PoC what he's been saying for the last 3 years, even in the recent debates Sanders hugged Obama with faint passing of what he's been saying for the last 3 years at least.

Disengionous...

Don't be fake Sanders, you don't like Obama and tell the people why...

He knows damn well a good portion of his campaign hinges on people not knowing how disastrous the 2010 election was for America and the historically gerrymandered GOP congress

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
12. you realise
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:39 AM
Feb 2016

that it's only February?

And you also should click the links because there's things from 2016.. I don't EXPECT you to be thorough, but it would be nice.

Disengionous is not a word.

"Doesn't "dislike" = still not good enough and Sanders is not going to say in front of the SEC state audiences who are full of PoC what he's been saying for the last 3 years, even in the recent debates Sanders hugged Obama with faint passing of what he's been saying for the last 3 years at least."

This is very hard to comprehend; could you please rewrite it carefully. ^^ For instance, what does " hugged Obama with faint passing of what he's been saying for the last 3 years at least" mean?

I can kinda surmise your "point" however, and I'd say this: not good enough for whom? For the millions still without healthcare or access to college education? Or not good enough for people that prefer Party and the cult of personality over progress? Because, I - and Sanders supporters - aren't into the cult of personality - neither is Sanders. This is not a biography contest, but a war of ideas... and if your ideas leave millions uneducated or without a proper education, then your ideas stink.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
17. You're right- Bill went off script.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:27 AM
Feb 2016

He's done that to his wife repeatedly throughout their marriage and in her earlier campaigns.

With things in such disarray in her campaign, and him second guessing Mook daily, we can expect many, many more "off-script" moments from him.

My impression that his off-script moments, like Chelsea's

"Sen. Sanders wants to dismantle Obamacare, dismantle the CHIP program, dismantle Medicare, and dismantle private insurance,"


are slip-ups which tell us what the Clintons, in their delusions, say to each other over the breakfast table - that is if they ever just sat around a simple breakfast table.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
7. I don't have it
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:14 AM
Feb 2016

but you can if you do...

I assume you mean the part where he diminished Obama's race, saying "everyone is mixed race" ....

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
13. Whoops, looks like they got their lines crossed
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:42 AM
Feb 2016

They're supposed to be wrapping themselves in Obama right now. Let's hope their 'target audience' is paying attention....

joshcryer

(62,260 posts)
15. The strategy seems to be Bill trashes in white states.
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 08:02 AM
Feb 2016

Hillary embraces in minority states.

Then Hillary says she doesn't agree with her husband about that, but she appreciates that he thinks she'd be an even better President, etc, passes off a joke that it's what husbands would say.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
18. Don't forget
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 09:11 AM
Feb 2016

The level of cynicism thst sort of strategy requires.

It requires think that POC are just too dumb to figure out that they're being played. That POC are so monolithic and thst their vote can be so taken for granted that one side of the campaign can attack Obama while the other side promises to continue his legacy.

It's disgusting.

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