2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDanTex
(20,709 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)We've covered so much ground already
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)Hillary Clinton, the prototypical outsider candidate. Yeah, right.
brooklynite
(94,525 posts)...like Planned Parenthood and the Human Rights Campaign.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Interesting take.
tblue37
(65,340 posts)She is the definition of a well-connected establishment politician, as are many other women.
Has she been the victim of sexist attacks and discrimination--well, yes, of course she has.
But when she claims something is sexist when it is not, or when she claims to not be part of the establishment simply because she is a woman, she weakens valid claims of discrimination, undermining, and oppression caused by sexism--whether those valid claims are advanced by her (or on her behalf) or by other women.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)She's flailing very badly. Throwing the gender card right now.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Do we really think -that- personality is good for international diplomacy?
vdogg
(1,384 posts)She was the freaking Sec. Of State, and yet somehow, we didn't go to war with Russia.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)How, exactly, are we responsible for Putin deciding to invade Ukraine? They've had their eye on that territory for years, and Putin does whatever he damn well pleases no matter who's in power. Been that way for years.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)google will be an aid in that.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)How does that work?
valerief
(53,235 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)LOL
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i will say it..you are a fucking crook and a liar and a sellout.
happy?
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)Yeah? Wall Street perhaps?
elleng
(130,895 posts)anything SUBSTANTIVE???
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)OMFG
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)I think audiences should be silent.
brooklynite
(94,525 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)Clinton completely flustered and throwing everything and seeing what sticks.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)Back off on the campaign donations, Hillary. You're going to lose...
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)In case he had any of those intentions.
On account of his dumb endorsement.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)brooklynite
(94,525 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)Have a nice evening watching Clinton feeling the real Bern.
snagglepuss
(12,704 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)Thank you for that.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...and she has nowhere to go.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)everyone is against me
Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)Not realizing we already found out that this was a sneak attack by her hubby to force Bernie to vote yea because it was embedded in a must-pass bill.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Joy Reid ?@JoyAnnReid
These two are about to start asking their friends to hold their bookbags and make some room on the blacktop. #DemDebate
ram2008
(1,238 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)where Bernie tore him a new one...
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)It's apparent from the audience reaction.
H2O Man
(73,537 posts)Bernie Sanders is having one of his best nights, and that Hillary Clinton is having a bad night.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)And I'm pissed so there.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)redwitch
(14,944 posts)Grrrrr
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...Hillary's refusal to accept money's influence in Washington doesn't look good.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)cui bono
(19,926 posts)or watch it later.
This sounds like a good one!
.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)I'm commuting home, so I can't watch right now ...
But, that was hilarious .. Thanks
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)napi21
(45,806 posts)I don't THINK I've heard any lies from either candidate, and there's a lot of emotion.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)Arazi
(6,829 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)@BenjaminNorton
Clinton literally just claimed that taking millions of dollars (ie, bribes) from Wall Street doesn't mean it influences you.
#
Bryce Read ?@thebryceread
If your only argument against being part of the establishment is that you're a woman...you need more of an argument. #demdebate
dana_b
(11,546 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...publicly financed? It's individual donors giving him money.
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)as did his brain
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)he goes after bernie for not taking public money?
wtf
JudyM
(29,236 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... done without superpacs!!!
ArcticFox
(1,249 posts)I've watched that stupid Pizza Hut commercial for the third and final time. Guess this debate is for reading about.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Secular Talk
1m1 minute ago
Secular Talk ?@KyleKulinski
Here we go. Hillary's Wall Street plan: "Hey c'mon guys. Cut it out" #DemDebate
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...please please please...
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)snot
(10,524 posts)Any suggestions re- online alternatives?
Updated, sorry, I pasted in the wrong link; just corrected it. Thanks for your suggestions, I'll check them out!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)audio only but no chris matthews
dana_b
(11,546 posts)he doesn't want to say that she's taken from them.
He is a nice guy. But she is beginning to piss him off and that is going to cause her trouble.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)Bet she wishes she had that one back.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)Told Wall Street off before the mortgage crisis.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)They already ARE!!!!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)redwitch
(14,944 posts)Damn, I can't find the vomit smilie.
...their phone numbers.
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Yeah, that didn't come out well.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)My god how can anyone believe this bullshit.
metroins
(2,550 posts)Flying Phoenix
(114 posts)She's bombing right now.
metroins
(2,550 posts)I feel like bernie is making good statements but Hillary is more realistic.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)B.S. - they WANT you in charge!! Such crap....
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Matthew Herper ?@matthewherper
Sanders: Kid gets found with marijuana, jail. Goldman pays a $5B fine, nobody goes to jail. #DemDebate
bam!
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)....gold standard.
LittleBlue
(10,362 posts)Laughing my ass off right now.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)He was totally hands off, as has been approach to all legislating.
And the banks should be broken up NOW, not after they put us at risk! Ahem, we are at risk riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight now!!!!!!!!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)I can only speak from my experience. Read the news -- MOCs were pissed about how hands off Obama was. The first time he went up to the Hill to ask House Dems to vote for something he wanted was last year, when he went to beg for votes for Wall Street's Fast Track bill. That's just the way it is. He has been stand-offish with Congress, and them's the facts.
senz
(11,945 posts)Like your daughter and son-in-law?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Probably trying to bait a reference to her daughter, the hedge funder.
senz
(11,945 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I, I, I, I, I.....
Me, Me, Me, Me....
Yeah, let the American people judge. Open her mind with real number, Bernie
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)...lies?
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)no one disagrees that money is influential.... if you do, you are not being real
tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)and quick'
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)"I'll look in to it"...
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)You mean she's already looked into it?
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)hillary"i will look into it"
bwahahahaahahahahaha
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)questionseverything
(9,654 posts)hc....umm i'll look into that
it is her record i hate
dana_b
(11,546 posts)she so much wants to be like Bernie!!
senz
(11,945 posts)mia
(8,360 posts)very telling.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)tomm2thumbs
(13,297 posts)and Boo's... these will show up in the news this week
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)"Cut it out."
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I will look into it,
No release of them in other words
napi21
(45,806 posts)Sounds like an oops to me.
Heddi
(18,312 posts)uuuh I'l look into it
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)"I'll get back to you on that"
Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)"Hillary won the debate."
Earth to bubble. Come in bubble. Reality awaits your arrival.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...your record is the last thing you should encourage anyone to look at.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)oil and pharmaceutical companies is disingenuous.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)Go, Bernie!
pa28
(6,145 posts)Oh my.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Will you release the transcripts?
I'll look into it
How can anyone trust this woman. All she had to say is yes if there's nothing to hide
dana_b
(11,546 posts)No! let's hear YOUR words!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Alameda
(1,895 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)she is almost speechless
dana_b
(11,546 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)corruption is rampant"
valerief
(53,235 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Not only do we bail them out once...
And, she feels deeply about this? I find that disingenuous.... In fact, it's a fraudulent statement.
I, I, I, Me, ME! ME!
bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Lenders regarding the bank mortgage crisis?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)or is bernie getting UUUUGE applause tonight?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)Don't think that is going to help.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)who is a progressive/what is a progressive. And she wants us to vote for her if she wins the nomination
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I wonder what tomorrow will bring.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)indefensible position than to jump over to the other side until the spotlight is taken away.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Maybe she can start laughing
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)good she will be. He needs to say what am I chopped liver. Because she has been insinuating all night how she can do the job but he can't. He needs to say I am qualified to do the job of President for the people and including the people in the process of healing our nation.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)All promises, no policies.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)it's all they have, so they keep using it.
Nobody has yet to state exactly what she could get done.
senz
(11,945 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)...give them some room.
senz
(11,945 posts)dana_b
(11,546 posts)true!
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)my dogs can't stand Secy. Clinton. They get very agitated and jockey for my attention when she is talking.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)They could catch a lot of hyperbole.
Jane Austin
(9,199 posts)Goldens. And yes, they can catch anything!
senz
(11,945 posts)My newer kitty has finally gotten used to my yelling at Hill.
I just tell 'em rightwingers are dogs.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)(still getting out of the depression of Mr. Mickey's passing, you know)... They shall be weaned by the yelling and ecstatic joy of the November results!!!
senz
(11,945 posts)It takes time. They'll be lucky kittens, MMM.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I KID.
ProudToBeLiberal
(3,964 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)good response when they asked again.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Hillary pretty much did the same thing and I don't blame her.
senz
(11,945 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)He grimaces every time.
senz
(11,945 posts)Could use a little "face" coaching, probably.
senz
(11,945 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)This is not working for me at all. However, I will vote for the Democratic nomination no matter what.
Peace
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)I don't think she actually is the devil.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)hilarious!
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)issue to everything else.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)It was a really cute, unguarded moment. You could see he forgot about the camera. It was charming.
senz
(11,945 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)If this were a GOP debate, her fear mongering neocon bullshit would be a big hit.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)The question isn't whether you are more experienced. The question is whether or not you have good judgement like Bernie did when Iraq came to vote.
senz
(11,945 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)What about ISIS? I didn't vote for the war in Iraq. What about Afghanistan? I didn't vote for the war in Iraq.
Is that his foreign policy plan, harp back to who voted for or against the IWR???? Please......
senz
(11,945 posts)How do you know what he knows? Have you held high level positions in government?
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Uh oh, he is insulting their leader as paranoid. SHHHHH SHHHH>
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)Considering Bill was once President, that is magnified.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)good for him.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)She was wrong about talking with Iran. No way to spin that.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)IDKWTF that was supposed to mean.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)"THEY'RE HARBORING TERRORISTS!"
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I love it.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)
GoneFishin This message was self-deleted by its author.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)On the foreign policy section. This is the most comfortable she's looked this whole debate.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)will eat Rubio, Cruz and Trump alive.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)But, what about Social Security?
INdemo
(6,994 posts)last time she was asked that question she just laughed it off. This time she said " I will look into that"
then Todd let her slide.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)You gave me goose bumps right there....
INdemo
(6,994 posts)lying face...Its bad enough to have to listen to her lie
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Maybe she should tell that to her DU fans.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)She continues to say she is the best the most qualified. He has to say something. They cut him off and each time he does not come back at her.
senz
(11,945 posts)She would not do the same for him.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)She just said who ever the voters "believe" when referring to her capabilities.
Hillary Clinton has lied during most of the debate and why should voters believe her on the stump..she will be a completely
different candidate tomorrow back sucking up to Wall St.
senz
(11,945 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)She did not.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)Bernie Sanders won big time on this issue. Bernie tells the truth Hillary is lying tonight but she will tell the truth when she is at her fundraiser tomorrow with Bain Capital.