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Official Debate Thread 2 (Original Post) TexasTowelie Feb 2016 OP
Wow! This is a debate! DanTex Feb 2016 #1
The one-on-one is so much better firebrand80 Feb 2016 #10
Yes. So much more ground. DanTex Feb 2016 #15
What does being a woman have to do with not being establishment? Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #2
its the victim/woman thing...again nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #6
That was my question EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #7
Apparently it has to do with supporting Hillary Clinton... brooklynite Feb 2016 #8
So being a woman is evidence someone is not an establishment politician. Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #64
As a woman I feel rather embarrassed when other women do that sort of thing. tblue37 Feb 2016 #61
Thank you Cassiopeia Feb 2016 #68
+1000 kath Feb 2016 #200
She's throwing everything right now. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #3
This is an opponent in her party's primary, imagine her arguing with Putin HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #130
Are you kidding? vdogg Feb 2016 #189
Except for that proxy war thing we kicked up in the Ukraine. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #191
We kicked that up? vdogg Feb 2016 #203
You really need to read about the uprising and the people behind it. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #208
Women can't be part of the establishment? TCJ70 Feb 2016 #4
Playing the dreary gender card. Blech. nt valerief Feb 2016 #5
Sanders beautifully pivoted the establishment to SuperPACs. joshcryer Feb 2016 #9
Yes he did. Loud applause and Hillary looking tense. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #12
Clinton lying about her her campaign has remained "positive" Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #11
Say it to my face!!! firebrand80 Feb 2016 #13
if you got something to say, say it restorefreedom Feb 2016 #14
Yeah, but you're inconsequential. BERNIE needs to man up. BlueCaliDem Feb 2016 #178
i completely agree. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #188
"Represented my constitutents" Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #16
Are they going to discuss their PLANS and PROPOSALS, elleng Feb 2016 #17
Hillary was just booed LittleBlue Feb 2016 #18
!!! cui bono Feb 2016 #50
So was Bernie. grossproffit Feb 2016 #170
And now the gloves come off... brooklynite Feb 2016 #19
Bernie is so owning this debate right now. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #27
Hillary you're not the establishment? JRLeft Feb 2016 #20
Shut the f#ck up Hillary - jeezus AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #21
Amen. Shut the fuck up. Hillary. azmom Feb 2016 #31
Big Boos for Clinton! TCJ70 Feb 2016 #22
Howard Dean will never get elected in Vermont again Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #23
Bernie's going to have a freaking stroke nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #24
he just destroyed her. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #25
Bernie's dissing lobbyists and how they've bought Congress! nt valerief Feb 2016 #26
Strictly from a political standpoint I don't understand by Sanders pivoted from Clinton to Wall St brooklynite Feb 2016 #28
Of course you don't. You're a part of the problem. Not thinking things through. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #37
lol snagglepuss Feb 2016 #190
heh. kath Feb 2016 #218
Well...he just said it to her face... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #29
and heeeeere comes the victim card restorefreedom Feb 2016 #30
Deritatives card now. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #32
a moment of comic relief restorefreedom Feb 2016 #33
Hillary got berned! LOL n/t ram2008 Feb 2016 #34
BINGO! Sanders v. Greenspan! I think Mr. Andrea Mitchell is still applying salve bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #35
Bernie has the ability to combat the lies. He's holding it together. Gregorian Feb 2016 #36
Truth and integrity are damn good defenses n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #160
Heads and shoulders .... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #167
I think that H2O Man Feb 2016 #38
agreed dana_b Feb 2016 #41
Why do I get the feeling that the "extra" debates are about to evaporate? n/t winter is coming Feb 2016 #222
I am better I am better than you I am better hear me I am better!~~~~ bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #39
That was intense. I had to get up and walk around nt. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #40
Me too! redwitch Feb 2016 #42
This is where the passion gets to come out... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #46
Lucky you, I'm trying to make dinner! Gregorian Feb 2016 #56
Okay, I'm going to have to findn a live stream if it's not too late... cui bono Feb 2016 #59
Best one on either side I've seen. Both candidates are bringing it. We'll see how it shakes out. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #62
This just in, Hillary claims victory in debate!! CNN confirms it! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #43
LMFAO Trajan Feb 2016 #74
There was a commercial break. I had to kill some time. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #90
I have to say, this the best debate, on eitherr side, that we've see so far! napi21 Feb 2016 #44
I agree. And the questions are better dana_b Feb 2016 #51
Hillary lied that Sanders wants to destroy the ACA eom Arazi Feb 2016 #141
No lies from HRC? somehow I really, really doubt that. kath Feb 2016 #230
twitter is on it.... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #45
Good answer n/t dana_b Feb 2016 #47
Chuck Todd asks a really good question, why isn't Sanders participating in public financing uponit7771 Feb 2016 #48
Isn't his campaign, by definition... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #53
yes, it is 100% publicly financed - his question fell flat tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #69
Live Media Reaction: Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #49
todd doesn't go after hillary on wall st but restorefreedom Feb 2016 #52
chuck waxed his eyebrows. JudyM Feb 2016 #54
So Sanders you're no better than CLINTON!! She's saying the same thing about getting things uponit7771 Feb 2016 #55
Live stream keeps kicking me off ArcticFox Feb 2016 #57
I am having good luck with the stream at MSNBC.COM GoneFishin Feb 2016 #66
as am i. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #70
temporarily this is working on YouTube tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #81
you can also search youtube for debate and select 'LIVE' for recent streams tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #93
this is working for me Matariki Feb 2016 #157
I called shenanigans!!! Cut it out! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #58
someone agrees with you restorefreedom Feb 2016 #73
I'm not following it on Twitter, thanks! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #83
yw :) twitter is keeping me sane right now...,nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #91
Shenanigans with Mortgages. Talk about out of touch! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #60
She predicted the crash to Wall Street? OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #62
Bernie...Bring up her video blaming homeowners... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #65
You mean this video? OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #165
Yes sir! n/t TCJ70 Feb 2016 #168
Did the camping assoc. pay her 600k? nt Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #67
She charged colleges more than Goldman Sachs. beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #76
Her son in law works for a hedgefund ffs ViseGrip Feb 2016 #71
I'm having trouble streaming this at http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-live ; snot Feb 2016 #72
MSNBC.COM GoneFishin Feb 2016 #82
here ViseGrip Feb 2016 #85
young turks restorefreedom Feb 2016 #86
gentleman dana_b Feb 2016 #75
Yup. redwitch Feb 2016 #87
I wish he would just ask her why she would agree to do a speech for a company like Goldman Sachs EmperorHasNoClothes Feb 2016 #77
"These are guys who know how to make smart investments" Hillary on her own Wall Street support. pa28 Feb 2016 #78
Hillary Depaysement Feb 2016 #79
bernie keeps getting the biggest applause lines. nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #80
IF they pose a systemic risk?? dana_b Feb 2016 #84
Hillary: Stop picking on Wall Street! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #88
Defending Wall Street isn't going to help her! Punkingal Feb 2016 #112
Hillary: Trust me, we won't do it again. Gregorian Feb 2016 #89
Hillary now says Glas Steagal is not enough....she's too much. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #92
She's got their number. redwitch Feb 2016 #97
Yeah... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #106
on speed dial. Gregorian Feb 2016 #108
here ya go.... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #111
It's the word "puke" nested between colons. winter is coming Feb 2016 #238
The Wall Street guys, the Hedge Fund guys, the Shadow banking guys are all against me! Avalux Feb 2016 #99
She's doing well. metroins Feb 2016 #102
If she was a stand up comedian, sure. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #121
I don't think so at all. metroins Feb 2016 #174
IF the cirumstances warrant?? dana_b Feb 2016 #94
pot v wall st restorefreedom Feb 2016 #95
Is Hillary going to back up all of these plans she just discovered? Gregorian Feb 2016 #96
Wall street trying to stop her so much they gave her campaign $15 million Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #98
yep! But he won't say it out loud dana_b Feb 2016 #107
I love Obama.....but just because he passed something doesn't mean its the... Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #100
Hillary should run for comedian LittleBlue Feb 2016 #101
Obama did not "push through" Dodd-Frank OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #103
All legislation ?!?!?! You guys lose credibility with this kind of thinking uponit7771 Feb 2016 #153
I don't know who "you guys" are OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #182
"These hedge fund guys" senz Feb 2016 #104
I notice she floats the "hedge fund" phrase to him fairly routinely... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #126
Yep, and then she can play poor hurt victim. senz Feb 2016 #147
I've got these guys number? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #105
Yeah Wall St. is really trying to stop her....does she just assume people are going to believe her.. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #109
Yep. What a load of crap. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #115
Obama took Wall Street money and didn't prosecute them, NO ONE WENT TO JAIL! ViseGrip Feb 2016 #110
they got their money's worth from Obama and the Democrats in power tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #123
she comes across as 100% IN-authentic about Wall Street - she better hope the subject changes tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #113
RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS!!! MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #114
She won't release them.... Punkingal Feb 2016 #135
Wait.... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #159
todd..will you release wall st speeches? restorefreedom Feb 2016 #116
"I'll look into it!" bullwinkle428 Feb 2016 #117
and I helped kill Bin Laden! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #122
transcripts from all your paid speeches questionseverything Feb 2016 #118
release the speeches and let the facts speak for themselves dana_b Feb 2016 #119
She always tries to take credit for bin Laden. senz Feb 2016 #120
Won't release the transcripts... mia Feb 2016 #124
She said she didn't know... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #134
Of course she won't. It would end her and you know it. morningfog Feb 2016 #184
"RELEASE THE TRANSCRIPTS!!!" tomm2thumbs Feb 2016 #139
Here ya go: Mike__M Feb 2016 #125
transcripts, YES Duckhunter935 Feb 2016 #127
OOPS. Why not just say yes to releasing the transcripts of your speaches? napi21 Feb 2016 #128
oh fuck oh fuck "will you release the transcripts" Heddi Feb 2016 #129
That dodge was worthy of Sarah Palin CanonRay Feb 2016 #145
do you want maple syrup on your waffling?? eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #148
After all this, in plain sight for the whole world to see, there are still those who will say... Binkie The Clown Feb 2016 #131
Secretary Clinton... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #132
Implying that Bernie does not want to go after OrwellwasRight Feb 2016 #133
i want the transcript of her Monsanto speech....oh yes I do. I alreayd know of a line in there.... ViseGrip Feb 2016 #136
"The business model of Wall St is fraud." valerief Feb 2016 #137
Wow. Chuck Todd wants the Goldman transcripts. pa28 Feb 2016 #138
So....is she going to release the transcripts? Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #140
Fuck this SheenaR Feb 2016 #142
"look at my record" dana_b Feb 2016 #154
They would just be fake anyway. n/t Skwmom Feb 2016 #173
too many interruptions, where is the debate? Alameda Feb 2016 #143
here is where Bernie scares everyone with a 401K! Gutsy! bettyellen Feb 2016 #144
fraud, weak regulations, bail them out - break them out!!! dana_b Feb 2016 #146
up! not out- oops! dana_b Feb 2016 #149
sanders..the business model of wall street is fraud restorefreedom Feb 2016 #150
SNL with Larry David on Saturday will be fun this week! nt valerief Feb 2016 #151
The business model of Wall Street is FRAUD... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #152
Bernie please keep flying commercial. bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #163
It's safer for someone who continue to piss off them who own this country, isn't it? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #176
Yup bklyncowgirl Feb 2016 #206
He should mention Walmart Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2016 #155
I think he already mentioned Wallyworld Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2016 #183
I know how to handle them. azmom Feb 2016 #156
No Hillary, many have not bounced back yet...after losing their homes. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #158
many are still struggling - some don't have jobs yet dana_b Feb 2016 #171
The arena with them....or paid by them.....you know, whatever. Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #161
I'll just tell them to 'cut it out'. eom Karma13612 Feb 2016 #164
Someone help me....didn't she blame the victims of the money nc4bo Feb 2016 #162
yes Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #169
Thanks Motown!nt nc4bo Feb 2016 #210
End the loophole - rebuild intrastructure - create jobs - yes! dana_b Feb 2016 #166
is it just me.... restorefreedom Feb 2016 #172
I think he is just killing it, but I am bias. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #177
me too, but it seems like it is happening nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #194
I've noticed that too. The audience has gone nuts for him. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #187
Is Hillary trying to "claim" "Bernieship"? Out "Bernie" Bernie. Interesting strategy? newthinking Feb 2016 #175
yes, it's the whole progressive debate dana_b Feb 2016 #180
I guess this is a day when she is a Progressive. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #181
Yes and it's disgusting. But I think it will fool some people. What better way to avoid defending an GoneFishin Feb 2016 #186
Doesn't seem to be, according to the audience... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #204
I want Bernie to stop letting her go on and on about how bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #179
She is starting to sound like Trump. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #185
That's one of the few talking points her campaign thought they would need. It has failed, but... arcane1 Feb 2016 #215
Aren't there any Hill supporters here? senz Feb 2016 #192
They may be having a rough time tonight... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #196
Or watching at the cave? senz Feb 2016 #207
that vote and war helped create groups like Isis dana_b Feb 2016 #193
President Sanders.. Keep Saying It Chuckie!!!! Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #195
Please don't kick them off DU, bu Jane Austin Feb 2016 #197
Are they hunting dogs? MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #211
Yes they are. Jane Austin Feb 2016 #252
My dearly departed cats got used to my yelling at dubya. senz Feb 2016 #270
And, when we become kitten parents again this fall... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #274
Totally understand. senz Feb 2016 #276
Ms. Hillary, people are still dying over that vote ViseGrip Feb 2016 #198
Let's draft Muslims! Awesome. bettyellen Feb 2016 #199
Holy crud he just completely not answered the afghanistan question. ny ProudToBeLiberal Feb 2016 #201
hope they'll get back to it. he skirted the faith question, then came back with a bettyellen Feb 2016 #209
It was a crazy hypothetical. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #213
I hate it when she laughs at him. senz Feb 2016 #202
He has a very hard time giving Obama credit. bettyellen Feb 2016 #205
Lol vdogg Feb 2016 #214
He's not very self-conscious. senz Feb 2016 #220
Bernie Sanders and President Obama like each other. senz Feb 2016 #280
I want to like her, I really do hibbing Feb 2016 #212
I'd rather have a beer with him, but am voting for the nominee. bettyellen Feb 2016 #216
Agreed, more of a minion. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #219
Ha ha ,,,the media didn't cover his foreign policy speech! ViseGrip Feb 2016 #217
because somehow it was also about economic equality too! he needs to maybe stop adding that bettyellen Feb 2016 #223
LOL, loved Bernie bugging his eyes out and nodding like a turtle. bettyellen Feb 2016 #221
Have you ever seen a turtle? senz Feb 2016 #255
Many! Have you? bettyellen Feb 2016 #257
Bugged out eyes? Nodding? senz Feb 2016 #265
Yep, my neighbor has a dozen in his yard. Bernie channeled one for a moment there.... bettyellen Feb 2016 #269
Yes, JUDGMENT. senz Feb 2016 #224
They just let her talk non-stop and interrupt him. Punkingal Feb 2016 #225
It's not going to make a difference. Avalux Feb 2016 #231
It's pissing my hubby off. LOL Punkingal Feb 2016 #237
She pulled the ready on day one card! bettyellen Feb 2016 #226
Bernie's right. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #227
Boy does she want to take credit for getting bin Laden. senz Feb 2016 #228
the organized bin ladin raid...."I was at the table" ViseGrip Feb 2016 #229
What Sanders knows about foreign policy can be held in a thimble. Beacool Feb 2016 #232
He's been in the U.S. legislative branch for 30 years. senz Feb 2016 #240
Ohhh, rank the threat. He wants to say Isis. But now says N Korea. bettyellen Feb 2016 #245
I hate how Hillary wants credit for everything the Obama Administration has done. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #233
I hate that he tries to hang everything Bill did on Hillary! bettyellen Feb 2016 #239
Relevant. Spouses are usually the candidates top policies advisors. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #250
Are they? She worked on health care pretty much. Worked super hard on it. bettyellen Feb 2016 #253
Glad he corrected her. Hope he continues. senz Feb 2016 #234
He sounds like he has done a much deeper dive into international issues. bettyellen Feb 2016 #235
Hawk attacks Dove and loses, film at 11:00 Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #236
More like dove knows squat about foreign policy. Beacool Feb 2016 #243
He won that portion of the debate. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #247
The whole No Korea then Russia thing was stilted and weird. bettyellen Feb 2016 #251
Bwahahahahahahahaha! Punkingal Feb 2016 #249
Clinton sounds like the shrub administration when they were fear mongering to get into Iraq. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #241
As Commander In Chief Sen. Sanders.... Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #242
Hillary makes me feel that I'll live in perpetual war. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #244
Very weird how they are forcing him to be concerned about foreign threats. Awkward! bettyellen Feb 2016 #248
This message was self-deleted by its author GoneFishin Feb 2016 #246
Hillary is Killing It vdogg Feb 2016 #254
I think she sounds arrogant and know-it-all. Punkingal Feb 2016 #263
Either of our candidates CanonRay Feb 2016 #256
HELL YES! NO CLOWN CAR OVER HERE!!! bettyellen Feb 2016 #261
She just recited the P.N.A.C, though now history. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #258
Yes. I a well aware of their manifesto, and what she said gave me a chill. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #262
She's against privatizing the VA... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #259
Hillary did not answer the question about releasing her speech transcripts.the INdemo Feb 2016 #260
NEW DEBATE THREAD : bettyellen Feb 2016 #264
Bernie you are the very best for this country, and our veterans. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #266
Im finding its much easier to just listen to this debate because I don't want to see her INdemo Feb 2016 #267
Bernie is right on having better 'judgment', over experience. People still dying over bad judgment. ViseGrip Feb 2016 #268
Well, Hill seems okay with Iowa being a tie. senz Feb 2016 #271
OMG! People's votes don't count? Caucus not! She fluffed it off! Disaster....awful ViseGrip Feb 2016 #272
Good General Election strategy on Bernie's part. senz Feb 2016 #273
Amazing how closely her talking points match those of her DU fans. senz Feb 2016 #275
Bernie has to tell her that he is the best candidate for Presidency. bkkyosemite Feb 2016 #277
He is a fine man. senz Feb 2016 #278
Hillary Clinton should never use the word "believe" INdemo Feb 2016 #279
Hillary wouldn't use Flint for political purposes, would she? senz Feb 2016 #281
So glad he brought up the inherent racism in the Flint situation. senz Feb 2016 #282
Bernie Sanders just won the Trade Agreement argument hands down He hit it out of the park INdemo Feb 2016 #283

brooklynite

(94,525 posts)
8. Apparently it has to do with supporting Hillary Clinton...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:26 PM
Feb 2016

...like Planned Parenthood and the Human Rights Campaign.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
61. As a woman I feel rather embarrassed when other women do that sort of thing.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:40 PM
Feb 2016

She is the definition of a well-connected establishment politician, as are many other women.

Has she been the victim of sexist attacks and discrimination--well, yes, of course she has.

But when she claims something is sexist when it is not, or when she claims to not be part of the establishment simply because she is a woman, she weakens valid claims of discrimination, undermining, and oppression caused by sexism--whether those valid claims are advanced by her (or on her behalf) or by other women.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
130. This is an opponent in her party's primary, imagine her arguing with Putin
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

Do we really think -that- personality is good for international diplomacy?

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
189. Are you kidding?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:57 PM
Feb 2016

She was the freaking Sec. Of State, and yet somehow, we didn't go to war with Russia.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
203. We kicked that up?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

How, exactly, are we responsible for Putin deciding to invade Ukraine? They've had their eye on that territory for years, and Putin does whatever he damn well pleases no matter who's in power. Been that way for years.

 

Flying Phoenix

(114 posts)
27. Bernie is so owning this debate right now.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:30 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton completely flustered and throwing everything and seeing what sticks.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
23. Howard Dean will never get elected in Vermont again
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

In case he had any of those intentions.

On account of his dumb endorsement.

 

Flying Phoenix

(114 posts)
37. Of course you don't. You're a part of the problem. Not thinking things through.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:34 PM
Feb 2016

Have a nice evening watching Clinton feeling the real Bern.

 

Flying Phoenix

(114 posts)
32. Deritatives card now.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:31 PM
Feb 2016

Not realizing we already found out that this was a sneak attack by her hubby to force Bernie to vote yea because it was embedded in a must-pass bill.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
33. a moment of comic relief
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

Joy Reid ?@JoyAnnReid
These two are about to start asking their friends to hold their bookbags and make some room on the blacktop. #DemDebate


bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
35. BINGO! Sanders v. Greenspan! I think Mr. Andrea Mitchell is still applying salve
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

where Bernie tore him a new one...

H2O Man

(73,537 posts)
38. I think that
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:34 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders is having one of his best nights, and that Hillary Clinton is having a bad night.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
46. This is where the passion gets to come out...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:36 PM
Feb 2016

...Hillary's refusal to accept money's influence in Washington doesn't look good.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
59. Okay, I'm going to have to findn a live stream if it's not too late...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:39 PM
Feb 2016

or watch it later.

This sounds like a good one!

.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
44. I have to say, this the best debate, on eitherr side, that we've see so far!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:36 PM
Feb 2016

I don't THINK I've heard any lies from either candidate, and there's a lot of emotion.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
45. twitter is on it....
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:36 PM
Feb 2016

@BenjaminNorton

Clinton literally just claimed that taking millions of dollars (ie, bribes) from Wall Street doesn't mean it influences you.
#

Bryce Read ?@thebryceread
If your only argument against being part of the establishment is that you're a woman...you need more of an argument. #demdebate

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
53. Isn't his campaign, by definition...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:38 PM
Feb 2016

...publicly financed? It's individual donors giving him money.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
55. So Sanders you're no better than CLINTON!! She's saying the same thing about getting things
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:38 PM
Feb 2016

... done without superpacs!!!

ArcticFox

(1,249 posts)
57. Live stream keeps kicking me off
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:39 PM
Feb 2016

I've watched that stupid Pizza Hut commercial for the third and final time. Guess this debate is for reading about.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
73. someone agrees with you
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:41 PM
Feb 2016

Secular Talk
1m1 minute ago
Secular Talk ?@KyleKulinski
Here we go. Hillary's Wall Street plan: "Hey c'mon guys. Cut it out" #DemDebate

snot

(10,524 posts)
72. I'm having trouble streaming this at http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-live ;
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:41 PM
Feb 2016

Any suggestions re- online alternatives?

Updated, sorry, I pasted in the wrong link; just corrected it. Thanks for your suggestions, I'll check them out!

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
87. Yup.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:43 PM
Feb 2016

He is a nice guy. But she is beginning to piss him off and that is going to cause her trouble.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
78. "These are guys who know how to make smart investments" Hillary on her own Wall Street support.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:42 PM
Feb 2016

Bet she wishes she had that one back.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
99. The Wall Street guys, the Hedge Fund guys, the Shadow banking guys are all against me!
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:44 PM
Feb 2016

My god how can anyone believe this bullshit.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
95. pot v wall st
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:44 PM
Feb 2016

Matthew Herper ?@matthewherper
Sanders: Kid gets found with marijuana, jail. Goldman pays a $5B fine, nobody goes to jail. #DemDebate

bam!

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
103. Obama did not "push through" Dodd-Frank
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:45 PM
Feb 2016

He was totally hands off, as has been approach to all legislating.

And the banks should be broken up NOW, not after they put us at risk! Ahem, we are at risk riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight now!!!!!!!!

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
182. I don't know who "you guys" are
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:55 PM
Feb 2016

I can only speak from my experience. Read the news -- MOCs were pissed about how hands off Obama was. The first time he went up to the Hill to ask House Dems to vote for something he wanted was last year, when he went to beg for votes for Wall Street's Fast Track bill. That's just the way it is. He has been stand-offish with Congress, and them's the facts.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
126. I notice she floats the "hedge fund" phrase to him fairly routinely...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

Probably trying to bait a reference to her daughter, the hedge funder.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
105. I've got these guys number?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:45 PM
Feb 2016

I, I, I, I, I.....

Me, Me, Me, Me....

Yeah, let the American people judge. Open her mind with real number, Bernie

 

Joe the Revelator

(14,915 posts)
109. Yeah Wall St. is really trying to stop her....does she just assume people are going to believe her..
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:45 PM
Feb 2016

...lies?

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
123. they got their money's worth from Obama and the Democrats in power
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:47 PM
Feb 2016

no one disagrees that money is influential.... if you do, you are not being real

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
131. After all this, in plain sight for the whole world to see, there are still those who will say...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

"Hillary won the debate."

Earth to bubble. Come in bubble. Reality awaits your arrival.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
142. Fuck this
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

Will you release the transcripts?

I'll look into it


How can anyone trust this woman. All she had to say is yes if there's nothing to hide

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
152. The business model of Wall Street is FRAUD...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

Not only do we bail them out once...

And, she feels deeply about this? I find that disingenuous.... In fact, it's a fraudulent statement.

I, I, I, Me, ME! ME!

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
162. Someone help me....didn't she blame the victims of the money
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

Lenders regarding the bank mortgage crisis?

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
175. Is Hillary trying to "claim" "Bernieship"? Out "Bernie" Bernie. Interesting strategy?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:53 PM
Feb 2016

Don't think that is going to help.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
180. yes, it's the whole progressive debate
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:55 PM
Feb 2016

who is a progressive/what is a progressive. And she wants us to vote for her if she wins the nomination

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
186. Yes and it's disgusting. But I think it will fool some people. What better way to avoid defending an
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:56 PM
Feb 2016

indefensible position than to jump over to the other side until the spotlight is taken away.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
179. I want Bernie to stop letting her go on and on about how
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 10:54 PM
Feb 2016

good she will be. He needs to say what am I chopped liver. Because she has been insinuating all night how she can do the job but he can't. He needs to say I am qualified to do the job of President for the people and including the people in the process of healing our nation.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
215. That's one of the few talking points her campaign thought they would need. It has failed, but...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

it's all they have, so they keep using it.

Nobody has yet to state exactly what she could get done.

Jane Austin

(9,199 posts)
197. Please don't kick them off DU, bu
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:00 PM
Feb 2016

my dogs can't stand Secy. Clinton. They get very agitated and jockey for my attention when she is talking.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
270. My dearly departed cats got used to my yelling at dubya.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016

My newer kitty has finally gotten used to my yelling at Hill.

I just tell 'em rightwingers are dogs.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
274. And, when we become kitten parents again this fall...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:28 PM
Feb 2016

(still getting out of the depression of Mr. Mickey's passing, you know)... They shall be weaned by the yelling and ecstatic joy of the November results!!!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
209. hope they'll get back to it. he skirted the faith question, then came back with a
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

good response when they asked again.

hibbing

(10,098 posts)
212. I want to like her, I really do
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:03 PM
Feb 2016

This is not working for me at all. However, I will vote for the Democratic nomination no matter what.

Peace

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
216. I'd rather have a beer with him, but am voting for the nominee.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

I don't think she actually is the devil.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
223. because somehow it was also about economic equality too! he needs to maybe stop adding that
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:06 PM
Feb 2016

issue to everything else.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
269. Yep, my neighbor has a dozen in his yard. Bernie channeled one for a moment there....
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:22 PM
Feb 2016

It was a really cute, unguarded moment. You could see he forgot about the camera. It was charming.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
231. It's not going to make a difference.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

If this were a GOP debate, her fear mongering neocon bullshit would be a big hit.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
227. Bernie's right.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:07 PM
Feb 2016

The question isn't whether you are more experienced. The question is whether or not you have good judgement like Bernie did when Iraq came to vote.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
232. What Sanders knows about foreign policy can be held in a thimble.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:08 PM
Feb 2016

What about ISIS? I didn't vote for the war in Iraq. What about Afghanistan? I didn't vote for the war in Iraq.

Is that his foreign policy plan, harp back to who voted for or against the IWR???? Please......

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
240. He's been in the U.S. legislative branch for 30 years.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:11 PM
Feb 2016

How do you know what he knows? Have you held high level positions in government?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
245. Ohhh, rank the threat. He wants to say Isis. But now says N Korea.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:12 PM
Feb 2016

Uh oh, he is insulting their leader as paranoid. SHHHHH SHHHH>

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
250. Relevant. Spouses are usually the candidates top policies advisors.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:13 PM
Feb 2016

Considering Bill was once President, that is magnified.

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
241. Clinton sounds like the shrub administration when they were fear mongering to get into Iraq.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:11 PM
Feb 2016

"THEY'RE HARBORING TERRORISTS!"

Response to TexasTowelie (Original post)

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
254. Hillary is Killing It
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:15 PM
Feb 2016

On the foreign policy section. This is the most comfortable she's looked this whole debate.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
260. Hillary did not answer the question about releasing her speech transcripts.the
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:16 PM
Feb 2016

last time she was asked that question she just laughed it off. This time she said " I will look into that"
then Todd let her slide.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
266. Bernie you are the very best for this country, and our veterans.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:19 PM
Feb 2016

You gave me goose bumps right there....

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
267. Im finding its much easier to just listen to this debate because I don't want to see her
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:20 PM
Feb 2016

lying face...Its bad enough to have to listen to her lie

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
277. Bernie has to tell her that he is the best candidate for Presidency.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:31 PM
Feb 2016

She continues to say she is the best the most qualified. He has to say something. They cut him off and each time he does not come back at her.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
279. Hillary Clinton should never use the word "believe"
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:35 PM
Feb 2016

She just said who ever the voters "believe" when referring to her capabilities.

Hillary Clinton has lied during most of the debate and why should voters believe her on the stump..she will be a completely
different candidate tomorrow back sucking up to Wall St.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
283. Bernie Sanders just won the Trade Agreement argument hands down He hit it out of the park
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 11:55 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie Sanders won big time on this issue. Bernie tells the truth Hillary is lying tonight but she will tell the truth when she is at her fundraiser tomorrow with Bain Capital.

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