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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 02:53 AM Feb 2016

The Ring of Truth

Bernie has it, he speaks the plain language of everyday Americans rather than the carefully calibrated and focus group tested jargon of the average politician. He actually knows how to say yes and no, something most politicians are loath to do.



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The Ring of Truth (Original Post) Fumesucker Feb 2016 OP
He is so pure. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #1
You say that like it's a bad thing Fumesucker Feb 2016 #2
Not hardly. He voted for intervening in Afghanistan and the Balkans eridani Feb 2016 #15
Not pure, just not a calculating phony flip flopper like Hill. cali Feb 2016 #21
He doesn't have the blood of a million INNOCENT Iraqis dripping from his hands. - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #24
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #3
mmmmmmmmnoooo, coming out ever so slowly that Sanders is human... a human politician uponit7771 Feb 2016 #4
OK Fumesucker Feb 2016 #6
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2016 #12
Well that's a silly argument Kentonio Feb 2016 #19
A lot of his supporters don't think it is, to them he's rationally MORE pure than anyone on the... uponit7771 Feb 2016 #22
We've been over the reasons why bringing up the CFMA is disingenuous. Kentonio Feb 2016 #23
I'll bet you can argue that Sanders was responsible for the Iraq War too. - nt KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #25
He's practically a saint. n/t zappaman Feb 2016 #5
Thanks for kicking my thread Fumesucker Feb 2016 #7
You're welcome and please accept my apology for inserting the word "practically". zappaman Feb 2016 #11
if he's so truthful hill2016 Feb 2016 #8
Lots of them are invested in it not adding up. Ron Green Feb 2016 #9
cause they're not for revolution and they get paid by Exxon and Goldman Sachs to hug Hillary uponit7771 Feb 2016 #13
Clueless TV commentators gyroscope Feb 2016 #14
I don't think they're clueless. I think they are lying to protect entrenched interests. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #18
The commentators are protecting the interests of health care profiteers. Enthusiast Feb 2016 #20
Not taking money from Wall Street gyroscope Feb 2016 #10
Its refreshing to listen to Bernie. He isn't condescending. He speaks honestly and simply. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #16
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #17
He's a public servant. I don't think saltpoint Feb 2016 #26
Real speaktruthtopower Feb 2016 #27
Matter of taste, I guess Recursion Feb 2016 #28

eridani

(51,907 posts)
15. Not hardly. He voted for intervening in Afghanistan and the Balkans
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:50 AM
Feb 2016

Still, he's much less beholden to the MIC and he has never said that Iranians are his enemies.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
4. mmmmmmmmnoooo, coming out ever so slowly that Sanders is human... a human politician
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:11 AM
Feb 2016

... that has his own bag of bad.

Its different from any of his opponents but it exist

Sanders can throw no stones, no matter how the argument is phrased that he can...


uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
22. A lot of his supporters don't think it is, to them he's rationally MORE pure than anyone on the...
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 09:48 AM
Feb 2016

... stage and can throw as many stones as he wants...

That's not true

For instance, Sanders voted for the CFMA but then chides Hillary for taking money for working for wall street.

Hell, at least she gets paid... he does it for free...

Neither of them can throw stones, Hillary doesn't have a wall street vote equilvalent to the CFMA screw up that Sanders voted for

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
23. We've been over the reasons why bringing up the CFMA is disingenuous.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:34 AM
Feb 2016

And that's completely setting aside the small fact that it was during the Clinton administration. The idea that getting tricked into supporting that Clinton backed act means Sanders can't call Hillary out on her Wall St. ties is just nonsense.

I don't know why you bother beating this dead horse. Do you imagine some Sanders supporter is going to change their mind at this stage? You keep bringing it up, we keep showing its nonsense, and around and round we go...

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
13. cause they're not for revolution and they get paid by Exxon and Goldman Sachs to hug Hillary
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:50 AM
Feb 2016

... a lot with cute puppies /sarcasm

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
14. Clueless TV commentators
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 03:56 AM
Feb 2016

I'd rather listen to the doctors and nurses about healthcare.
(turn off the boob tube for once).

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
18. I don't think they're clueless. I think they are lying to protect entrenched interests.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:31 AM
Feb 2016

It is pure misinformation from one end of the dial to the other. We need to break up the big media conglomerates.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
20. The commentators are protecting the interests of health care profiteers.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 07:39 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie's plan would create massive savings! The quality of health care would actually increase because health care would be free of unnecessary red tape.

Commentators that agree with Bernie are not allowed a voice on corporate media. This is so obvious that it is laughable.

We have the entire developed world as health care examples we could emulate rather than allow health care pirates to control everything as we do now.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
16. Its refreshing to listen to Bernie. He isn't condescending. He speaks honestly and simply.
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 05:57 AM
Feb 2016

He has a sincere and warm smile..

And he's real in every sense.

Too bad more people don't connect with him.

He's certainly trying to connect with as many people as possible

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
26. He's a public servant. I don't think
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 11:51 AM
Feb 2016

anyone can realistically state that someone like Ted Cruz is a public servant. Cruz serves his Christ and will burn every bridge in Christendom in the serving.

Yet Republican primary voters may put Trump or Cruz at the top of their ticket. I'm sure they don't care what I think of that, but they are risking the dissolution of their beloved Republican Party if they do. The Trump voters are all anger and no brains. The Cruz voters are so imbued with the Afterworld that they have lodged their heads up their butts in this one.

Bernie is beholden to none of the money that motivates Trump. He is not flogging fundamental Christianity like Cruz. He's talking issues, with a powerful undergirding of financial justice.

From the size of his campaign audiences, I'd say folks are interested in hearing what he has to say.

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