Dubya was a fucking asshole, but he was a likable asshole

[Xipe Totec]

Mitt, you are no Dubya.

Go home...

Californication, Massatooshits, Utahrus, I don't care.

Wherever it may be, just go.

[immoderate]

1. He WAS more likeable than Mitt.

Not that I liked him.

--imm

[Cosmocat]

41. He had one particular talent

even to this day, he does not have to directly pander to the far right wing.

For whatever reason, he could bullshit around it, with a wink, and the far right knew he was on board with what they wanted.

They just trusted the guy.

Romney is the extreme example, but even people like Santorum, someone FULLY on board with the far right, speaks to it in a very direct and vitriolic manner.

Bush II was very much the same plutocrat that Romney was, and his whole image as a down home texas boy was very much contrived, the BS about clearing brush, that they forced the "liberal" media to do all of their photo ops from his "ranch" with the lone broken down stable they kept up just for that reason and never showing the new, multimillion dollar ranch house.

He just had a gift to be able to talk in a moderate manner while having the far right know he was on board with them.

[immoderate]

92. Interesting observation.

I guess it helps to be a fundie or wing nut to appreciate it, but I can that.

--imm

[Cosmocat]

94. There just was something about him

that he did not have to say the off the wall nonsense that the Santorum's, the Nwets seem to trip over themselves to have outdo one another screaming about the far right lunacy. But, the fundies and party just inherently liked and trusted him.

It serves their purpose to passively throw him under the bus now because they had the free run of things and it was raging disaster. But, at the time, he got elected, and they LOVED him, without his having to ever say the Bachmann like stupid A crape that most of these people have to say to get their support.

[northoftheborder]

82. I don't have that same gut wrenching hatred of Mitt...just a disdainful lack of respect.

[immoderate]

91. Well, as a rule I avoid using "hate" referring to people...

It's for things like Brussels sprouts, mosquitoes, and water up my nose. I can think of some other things, but I'm hard pressed to think of a person in that light. If they exist, I've probably repressed them.

As for Mitt, I don't hate him, but he displays some attributes that might warrant abhorrence, loathing, repugnance, or revulsion. And I detest that he thinks he could or should be POTUS. That's arrogant for a no-nothing such as he is.

But I wouldn't say I hate him, (unless he bought the company I worked for, and fired everybody, and ran it into bankruptcy so he could pocket a hundred Mil, then I might hate him.

--imm

[warrior1]

2. he wasn't a likable asshole

just an asshole who stole a presidency and nearly ruin our country.

[Habibi]

3. No, he wasn't.

Likable, I mean.

[Xipe Totec]

6. Compared to Mitt?

Let's get real, at least Dubya got elected.

Somebody liked him, even if it was 48%, that was close enough to steal the election.

But Mitt?

Seriously?

[Habibi]

45. All righty, then. Good grief.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

57. It's debatable whether he was elected

stolen election

[Xipe Totec]

62. Did you read my entire post? nt

[truebluegreen]

87. but yeah, definitely an asshole. n/t

[notadmblnd]

4. Yeah, I loved him in Harold and Kumar Escape from Guantanamo Bay

[TroyD]

5. He also benefitted from Electoral Theft, OP

Don't forget his friends Katherine Harris & Ken Blackwell, along with brother Jeb.

[MotherPetrie]

7. They used to say that about Reagan too. I thought they were both vile.

If anything I think Bush was more hateful than I think Romney is.

I've never seen a video of Romney making fun of a woman who was about to be executed.

[deutsey]

103. I agree

Rove worked hard to project the image of likability for Bush (the whole stupid "guy you could have a beer with" meme), but I think there are plenty of examples that expose just how bogus that image was.

He was a hateful, vindictive, authoritarian asshole.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. I don't think he was especially likeable -

he was more like the annoying in-law who comes to your family holiday party, tells dirty jokes to your elderly aunt, drinks all the liquor, tells more dirty jokes, gets on the computer to show porn to your kids, then won't go home but instead falls asleep on your couch, where your 12-year-old daughter finds him the next morning. Wearing nothing but his tighty whities.

But I will give W credit for seeming to be a human, although an unattractive one. Mittens, however, is so cold and phony that he doesn't even seem to be an actual person. Tweety compared him to Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still.

[Xipe Totec]

15. I think we are in total agreement

We are talking about degrees, and Dubya at least seemed human.

Stupid, obnoxious, moronic, unbearable, but human.


Mitt?

We need a separate kingdom because the mushrooms rejected him as too impersonal.

[MichiganVote]

9. George Bush was detestable, totally a liar.

[Whisp]

10. I never liked Bush for one nanasecond.

he is a mass murdering thieving liar.

[baldguy]

11. I disagree totally.

Both W and Willard are likely to stab you in the back & eat your liver, but while Willard would feel bad about it the next day, W wouldn't think twice about it.

[Xipe Totec]

13. And yet, he was re-elected

I'm not saying I liked him. I'm not saying you liked him.

I'm saying enough people liked him, and identified with him, and wanted to have a beer with him, that he got close enough to steal the election.

Mitt hasn't even have that much.

Can't we agree that there are degrees of assholiness, and that Mitt is much, much, higher in the asshole scale than Dubya?

[RKP5637]

79. We had republican friends over recently that were still proud they voted for

Bush twice. They, seem to love him, go figure. So, I agree, some still love the guy. Ugh!
One went as far to say he was just misunderstood.

The weird part is these are very nice people if you exclude their political leanings.

[Xipe Totec]

84. Weird, isn't it?

It's not about logic, or intelligence, or even sense.

These people like him first, and then justify or rationalize their affection for him after the fact.

Conversely, there are people who still have a visceral hatred of the man and everything he stands for.

Is it justified? Probably.

Is it rational? Probably not.

It is emotional. The opposite of Romney who elicits as much emotion as a slug baking on the sidewalk.

[RKP5637]

90. Yep, I think your initial post was quite correct. If one strips away what Bush did, he

actually has a sense of humor. If it were not for what he did, who he was, many would not probably have the visceral response to him. I do have to confess, I found him funny sometimes. ... like the time he left the podium after a major speech and the exit door was locked and it was all caught live on camera, he handled that well.

On the other hand, Romney repulses me. I ran across too many pukes like Romney in my corporate life. Reagan was another conundrum. As many democrats have said at the time, liked the man and hated his politics. Romney, IMO, is way at the other end of the scale. I don't think too many cozy up to him like they did Bush or Reagan.

PS: That doesn't mean I condone any of them, I'm just trying to strip away the political aspect of them ... Romney would still be a cold fish IMO.

[truebluegreen]

88. I don't think he was elected

OR re-elected.

Appointed the first time and stole the election the second time.

Never elected.

[Zoeisright]

12. No, not really.

Mitt is more polished, but Dubya is a complete ass. I'd kick both of them to the curb because they're unfeeling dipshits.

[Indpndnt]

14. Compared to Willard. Otherwise, no. Hell, no.

[Xipe Totec]

16. That is exactly my point; compared to Willard. nt

[Siwsan]

17. I guess I need your definition of likable

I still can't watch or listen to him without wanting to throw a punch.

[Xipe Totec]

19. Me neither, but he seemed likable to enough people that he got elected and reelected

Mind you, I am AWARE of the impact of the supreme court on the elections, but even for that, he had to be close enough that winning was plausible.

You hate him, I most assuredly hate him, and most Democrats hate him.

But Willard is hated not only by Democrats, but by Republicans.

He is universally loathed.

That is the difference.

He was likable enough that people were willing to vote for him even though he was terminally stupid.

[Ebadlun]

18. Mitt seems to be being held to a higher standard

Bush could barely articulate the word 'policy', never mind articulate an actual policy, but he somehow got a pass, while his opponents were criticized for lesser flaws.

It's a welcome development that Romney/Ryan are being taken to task - in part because of much more aggressive Dem operation.

But regarding the OP, no, Bush was not a nice man.

[tanyev]

20. The Talibornagains embraced him as one of their own.

He didn't have to veer right to get them on his side, and even if he sometimes tossed out a more centrist bone, they trusted that he didn't really mean it.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

21. You could almost excuse Dubya because he was a complete moron

and most likely the figurehead for folks like Cheney.

But he was still cocky, flight suit-wearing prick.

[center rising]

22. Dubya wasn't likeable, he was a Cheeeeeney stooge!!

[graywarrior]

23. We don't want his ass in Mass, thank you very much.

[SoonerPride]

24. I disagree.

I thought he was a smug moron and I hated his guts.

Romney is an automaton.

It's like hating your toaster.

[fujiyama]

25. Like almost everyone on this board

I found him arrogant and completely detestable. I didn't find him likable in the least...

But, I'll give him this - on the surface at least - he had an "every man" appeal to many Americans that Romney very obviously lacks. Even though he came from wealth and rode through life with a silver spoon, he didn't flaunt his wealth in the patrician style Romney does. Even his ignorance was a projection of being ordinary in a sense. And by the time the debates in '00 came around, expectations were so low, as long as he didn't drool on stage, he would win.

He was also able to sell a notion of "compassionate conservatism" to many Americans (at least in '00) and the biggest difference between Romney is he seemed decisive (even though 99% of the time he was decisively WRONG).

Ultimately he also ran much more disciplined and focused campaigns. Romney's ineptitude is just staggering. I thought our guys ran some poor campaigns but this takes the cake. It is just God awful.

[mshasta]

26. false!!

bush was a dick...still is and it will be...a dick...not a freaking likeable dick but a nasty d-i-c-k .

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

27. No he wasn't. Bush was an ass, an empty suit, a hack and a fucking clown.

I will never like him. He is shit, and so is rMoney. They just have different levels of digestible matter floating around in their heads.

Fuck them both.

[Nostradammit]

28. Likable my lilly-white ass ~

There was NOTHING likable about George W. Bush. In fact, he and Mitt share the same "son of the boss" personality that makes them so completely repugnant to decent people.

[Kennah]

29. Dubya was better than Rmoney in that ...

... his team was better at swirling bullshit into ice cream. Also, I think Dubya, for all his gaffes, probably did a better job than Rmoney at public speaking. Pretty sad state of affairs for the GOP. With President Obama, Majority Leader Reid, and Speaker Pelosi, pretty fucking grand state of affairs for the American people.

[BeyondGeography]

30. Dubya was much better at politics

A big part of that was appearing to be likable.

[Lint Head]

31. Bush was fucking treasonous murderer who committed

dereliction of duty when he destroyed the economy.

[backscatter712]

32. He did fool a lot of people.

During the early years, he was a bit smoother than he was by 2008, when he was clearly showing "dry drunk" symptoms (and I'm skeptical of the "dry" part...)

rMoney can't even pass a Turing test, and he comes across to most people as "the boss that fired me" - his campaign's turned into a true disaster!

[graham4anything]

33. everything happening to Mitt/Ryan, is being done to make Jeb 2016 acceptable(and it's working)

for the Bush's to regain the nomination at least, and attempt to be President, they have to not only make sure Mittens loses badly, but also to repudiate forever the radical rightwing extremism of the republicanlibertarianteaparty that Ryan represents and will attempt to advance to top of ticket in 2016.

Bush was never stupid. It was a manufactured act of an elite Conn. family to make themselves stupid and Texan and perfectly perfected in 2000 (thanks Ralph Nader you swine).

the republicans will be nominating Jeb in 2016 IMHO as predicted by me years ago now, to bring peace to the party and to say they are winners to the party. It will work.(It already is).

That W is considered an asshole, well, he is according to history a two term president, and the spin is Jeb is a better person/ more qualified. All part of the plan.

Mittens just was doing the "Dole(as in Bob) dive in 2012 to make room for the entire theft machine to be turned back on in 2016.

God hopes the democrat party stays together and remembers the prize is the White House in 2016 and 2020 and that a Clinton will again defeat a Bush like in 1992. Go Hillary.
Our happiness depends on it being Hillary45, not Jeb45.

because I am 100% positive Jeb will be the nominee as planned by the Bush family in 2008.
(remember as much as we dems don't like the Bush politics, everything they did helped THEIR plan and their finances. EVERYTHING. If anyone believes otherwise, then the asshole is not the Bush family but those that think what Bush did was not what he planned on doing.

stupid is believing they were stupid.

(and go find an old copy of Paul Waldman's "Fraud- the strategy behind the Bush family lies and why the media didn't tell you".(still available on amazon and everywhere else one can find a book.) (and see how everything was spun again and again to fit what they needed to do).
(and note-this was a book when I read it, I had a hi-light marker in hand to underline the important parts. I quickly noted that every single word in the book was underlined.)

[TroyD]

37. How can they run the brother of George W. Bush?

Why would people want to elect the brother of the man who destroyed the country and is ranked as the least popular President of all time? Someone so unpopular he has to hide out in Texas and couldn't even show up to the RNC.

And how can a THIRD member of the same family run for President so soon without it looking like America is turning into a dynastic Royal Family?

[graham4anything]

40. watch how they can (and will)

(or) like an old comedy routine...

you know that
and I know that

but as you see with the teapartyextremists- 24% of the country would vote for the tea party extremists
add another 25% who still idolize the Bush name (especially in the rightwing(and it's all rightwing) media

add to that the billionaires who just want to win

and the republicans have their candidate named Jeb who in another 4 years will keep emphasizing he is not W or his dad(yet his dad, is beloved and they just don't know or care about IranContra and all that illegal stuff, and those people don't believe 2000 was a theft).

As sure as I am that Obama would win in 2012 from day one, I am sure the republican nominee will be Jeb after a long fight for the nomination with the others.
(You don't think Chris Christie will be allowed that nomination do you? He might get VP to hope they can win some votes, especially CT and NH

and they won't give it to their unqualified women condidates or some other newbee.

We gotta assume Jeb will get it, and be prepared for the single hardest election fight in the general, because for all the threads here on DU about a theft, a theft with the people who already know how to do it (i.e. the Bush family and the whole system they know) will make it more possible.

And we have to make sure our best candidate, our strongest candidate in 2016 will win
(and as the law won't change, it won't be Obama running for a 3rd term, but for us to win, President Obama will have to fully support and be very public about it, Hillary and all of Obama's voters will have to put aside any past issues and fully support her.

Because 2016 will after Obama's reelection, be even more important to hold all the parts together, than this year. (And to fully change the US Supreme Court).
Why would their side elect Bush? Because they are stupid and add that in 2016, they will be hungry for a winner and the Bush's know how to "WIN" at all costs.

Bush41 was the one that bought Lee Atwater into the picture and Karl Rove to shape 43.
Jeb was the one that promised election night 2000 on national tv that the results were wrong and he personally guaranteed Florida would end up for W. The rest is history.

(and btw, no offense to either great Mass. person who could run in the future, but neither can defeat the Bush's. Ask Mike Dukakis about someone from Mass. running against him, it cannot be someone from Mass. It will need to be Hillary.) IMHO and except for the 2000 theft, I was never in my mind wrong about any political race going back to the LBJ win in 64.

which reminds me-America elected 2x Richard Nixon, and back in 1968 the same questions were asked about who in America could possibly vote for him after his past loses and promblems. They did.

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. I'm sorry, but I didn't like him. And now that he's off my teevee, I'm just indifferent. Meh....

[NCLefty]

35. Dubya could at least claim stupidity (or lack of smarts) for what he did.

And then push most of it off onto Cheney.

Mitt doesn't come off as hurr-durr-stupid like Dubya did. I think it's just being out-of-touch (but annoyingly persistent with the whole "running for president" thing) that is his problem.

I will leave you with Dubya, dancing with African musicians:

[Tribetime]

36. not likable, but he made his lies believable to his followers

r money gives the impression even he does not believe what he is saying

[JI7]

38. i Didn't think he was likable at all, the difference is Bush had the trust of the wingnuts

which ROmney doesn't have. so he was more free to campaign in the middle .

in 2000 it was before 9/11. the atmosphere was different. they ran against Clinton getting a BJ. he still really lost this election though it was closer than it should have been for the reasons i give.

in 2004 it was FEAR FEAR FEAR. this election was so close that Kerry actually could have won unlike other elections like McCain in 2008.

in both elections the whore media propped him up, especially in 2000 with their attacks on Gore. in 2004 it was more about the whore media treating swift boat attacks as a real news story and the phony terrorist alerts as real important things .

[alphafemale]

39. Well, he had at least enough passable social skills that Turd Blossum could sell him.

I think * could have spent an afternoon in a tavern, pub or gin joint and been able to talk to people.

I think Mitt would be thrown out or beaten to a pulp within 15 minutes.

I think * fakes it though.

I'm sorry. But there's just something really broken and wrong about losing a child to death and then just never speaking about her again.

That's creepy.

on edit

(Talking about bush sister)

[yellowcanine]

42. Speak for yourself. I didn't find him likable. He was a bully.

I don't find bullies likable or charming. He also indulged in what I call "aggressive ignorance" by not caring whether his sources of information were reliable or not as long as they confirmed his world view. I don't find that likable either.

[ellie]

43. Says you

I hated that fucker with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns. I am glad my father wasn't around to see Bush 2. He would have stroked out.

[Jennicut]

44. I detested the man but he new how to BS people, bs certain voters and even the media.

Romney is much more awkward and uncomfortable about it.

I saw through Bush but many did not. No one sees Mitt as people able to schmooze people like W. could.

[hamsterjill]

46. I don't think Bush was likeable, but he was better at pretending than Mittster is.

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You see, Bush has had to "pretend" his whole life. It's kind of like acting. He had to pretend that he graduated from Harvard, when we all figured out that his name got him through. He pretended to have served in the national guard, when we all knew he didn't. Bush learned at an early age how to "turn on the charm" when needed, and he was comfortable and confident that his act could cover up his absolute total and utter lack of real knowledge.

Mittster? Nah...not so much. He's spent his whole life wondering to himself why he's such a nice guy and wondering why no one likes him! He's never developed the acting skill that Bush had.

Stahp it! This is hard! LOL

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

51. I think that's exactly right. Bush was better at politics.

He was able to seem likeable, at least to those who were predisposed to like that good-ol'-boy type. It wasn't that hard to think, yeah, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer but he might be kind of fun to hang out with. We know now that he's a total dick, but before the 2000 election his essential dickishness hadn't become manifest because he was good at faking not being a dick. But Mittens has never before had to fake not being a dick (dickishness being a requirement of a successful vulture capitalist), and he just can't do it. So now, before the election, we already know he's a total dick.

[Xipe Totec]

47. WOW! Tough crowd!

[RainbowUnicorn]

48. Don't worry. You're right.

Bush won because he fooled people with the compassionate conservative stuff.

[RainbowUnicorn]

54. Democrats aren't truthers. Put down the crack pipe. nt

[realFedUp]

58. Dear 24 post newbie

Wake up and smell the untruths in this country.
We won't forget that this country lied to us about
what happened that day and basically
put out the sign:
"Nothing to see here, move on."

Get thee over to Faux...it's 40 days, you need to be on your
knees permanently.

[RainbowUnicorn]

63. Is that what you tell the people in the white coats?

Say hi to Napoleon for me.

[Xipe Totec]

74. Focus on the topic of the thread

It would be more constructive than taunting the other poster.

FWIW, we're of the same mind on this topic.

I like you, and I want you to stick around, so word of advice. Read the terms of service:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

[mvd]

76. Thanks for giving him the link

I have my own 9/11 thoughts, and they aren't like the official story, but we should keep the focus on the topic.

I disagree about Bush being at all likeable. He just has a facade unlike Romney.

[Xipe Totec]

78. And I accept your opinion on the topic of Bush's likeability.

After all, that's the topic of discussion.

I only hope that people can understand that I'm making a relative, not an absolute assessment of likeability.

The point I'm TRYING to make is that, compared to Mitt, Dubya is Mr Charisma in the flesh....


Peace

[mvd]

81. I understand

Bad charisma, but charisma. To me, his kind of charisma made him unlikable.

[Xipe Totec]

71. Please, please, please, STOP.

Focus on the topic of the OP.

[Paladin]

50. Dubya? Likable? Not Bloody Likely. (nt)

[tularetom]

52. He was just better at talking like an ignorant hick

which made him seem more likeable. He was every bit as much a nasty, privileged, silver spoon trust fund baby as Romney but he possessed the ability to make himself sound like somebody you'd "want to have a beer with".

Both of them are actually this guy:

[Xipe Totec]

72. You and I are in agreement

Mittens is Dubya, but without charm.

[hollysmom]

53. Unless you crossed him - I think it was that he liked sports, that made him human. n/t

[Xipe Totec]

70. Yes. nt

[Skittles]

55. sorry, no, Dubya was NOT likeable

anyone with an ounce of sense should have EASILY seen through his bullshitting ass

[Xipe Totec]

69. Ah, but that's the point

Not every voter has an ounce of sense.

Likeability has nothing to do with intelligence.

Like attracts like.

And let's face it, half of the electorate has below average intelligence by definition.

[Art_from_Ark]

56. Likable?

What's likable about...
A guy who went to extremes to steal a presidential election?
A guy who called the US Constitution "a goddamn piece of paper"?
A guy who bragged about spending 10 minutes maximum examining cases of death row inmates before signing the death warrants for 152 of them?
A guy who publicly mocked at least one of the inmates he had put to death?
A guy who started two wars and drained the Treasury in the process?
A guy who thought the phony baloney excuse he made for starting at least one war was funny?

[Xipe Totec]

68. Ask the electorate

and the supreme court.



And, please, read all the prior posts before replying. It may be that your points have already been covered.

[Art_from_Ark]

73. It "may be" that my points have already been covered???

You are telling me to "read all the prior posts before replying", yet you yourself don't know if my points "have already been covered"?

At any rate, I have summed up a few reasons why Idiot Son was NOT likable. The electorate wanted Gore in 2000. And quite a few people think that Romney is "likable", regardless of what the consensus is here.

[Xipe Totec]

75. There's like 20+ posts on this thread making the same point as you

Yes, I do know that your point is already covered.

You are late to the party.

The "may" in my reply was a courtesy.

[Art_from_Ark]

86. What are you talking about?

There are not "20+ posts" talking about the same things I brought up. No one talked about Idiot Son's record with death row inmates, no one mentioned his lame-ass attempt at humor about the non-existent "weapons of mass destruction..." Go back and read the posts. Geeez

And let's get this straight-- G.W.bu$h was NOT likable to a HUGE segment of the population. And the electorate wanted GORE in 2000!

[TexasCPA]

61. I worked on Governor Ann Richards campaign

I was so shocked when that idiot beat her. She tore him a new asshole during the Texas debates.

[Xipe Totec]

65. I loved Ann Richards!

She was my Gov. I voted for her.

My heart broke when she lost to Dubya.

I'm afraid that most here have misunderstood the message of my OP, which is simply this:

EVEN DUBYA WAS BETTER THAN MITTENS.

That does not mean Dubya was good, it just means Mittens is worse.

[MrMickeysMom]

85. Yeah... He was born with a silver foot in his mouth!

God, I miss Ann Richards...

And, boy, do I hate these Bush Crime Family members pimped by Dick Cheney and the PNAC bunch of crips and bloods...

[RKP5637]

93. I was amazed too, it was absolutely incredible he won over her. I just don't understand people. n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

64. No Shrub was not liable

[Xipe Totec]

66. Yes, he was liable

[Rosa Luxemburg]

113. oops pardon my keyboard! Likable not liable!

[Xipe Totec]

114. LOL I knew what you meant.

Peace!

[mvd]

67. I despise Bush. Sometimes phony can be even more..

appalling than being outwardly out of touch like Romney. Not a lot Of Americans are as politically astute as those posting here, and Bush (as well as Reagan) fooled many.

[Arugula Latte]

77. I couldn't stand him. He made my skin crawl.

[northoftheborder]

80. I used to dream of being in some kind of reception line with Bush coming through, shaking....

.....everybody's hands, and when he got to me I would just reach up and slap him silly...then when I woke up I realized that the Secret Service would have grabbed me and slammed me up against the wall before I touched him....

Can't stand the man; still cringe when I see his stupid face.

[Arugula Latte]

83. I had similar dreams, except in my reception line scenario I'd tell him off and shake my finger

in his stupid vapid face and call him an asshole and a mass murderer and several other choice things.

[Permanut]

89. That's like choosing between a cockroach and a maggot..

hard to say which is more likeable.

[Egnever]

95. Nope not ever

Guy was a turd from the get go.

[stevend56]

96. Have to disagree

For the first GWB term, I got a sick to my stomach feeling every time I saw him. I only found out later that I wasn't the only person to have this reaction.

[NYC Liberal]

97. Was he likeable when he told a dead soldier's mother,

"How do you know his life would have been good?"

Or when he said at the G8 summit in 2008, "Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter!"

Or when he made his "haves and have mores" joke?

Or when he made a 13 year old cry by sarcastically dismissing her question?

Or when he mocked a blind man and told him to take off his sunglasses?

Or when a reporter addressed him as "sir" and he responded "Who are you talking to?" (wanting to be addressed as "Mr President&quot

Or when he shoved his way past Bill Clinton to get in front at the Clinton Library dedication?

Or when he told a reporter he had a "face for radio"?

I understand that perhaps some people's anger towards Bush will subside as his presidency fades into history, but I didn't find the asshole likeable at all.

[Xipe Totec]

104. Don't ask me, ask the 46% who still like him

Shooting the messenger does not change the message.

Quote:

I just read a poll by the Bloomberg News. At first I was somewhat dumfounded. But now I may understand it.

The poll was about ‘favorability’. The results showed that Romney’s rating was at 43%, and vice-president Biden’s at 42%. The statistic I couldn’t understand was that George W. Bush had a rating of 46%!

I certainly understand that Romney is not a very ‘likeable’ person. But to be in an inferior position to the worst president in our nation’s history is somewhat shocking. Romney has gone out of his way to distance himself from the former president. As with many other attempts by Romney to ‘downplay’ certain issues and situations, this one is now in the spotlight.

I dissected the poll carefully. Then I saw an angle that made some since.

“W’s” favorability rating is out of pity. It’s what happens when we encounter a somewhat mangy stray dog. He might not be the animal you would first choose to take in as a pet, and he may be a little “slow”, but there is a certain sweetness about him. He needs to be cared for. If he was left alone, he’d just wander around looking for someone to love him and accept him into their life.



http://guardianlv.com/2012/09/romney-is-not-a-very-likeable-person/

[NYC Liberal]

106. That's not what your OP said.

Your OP didn't say "Some people find Bush more likeable than Romney" or link to an article discussing it. It simply said, with no quoting, Bush was likeable.

[Xipe Totec]

109. With a likeability of 46% you cannot say he is universally disliked

Which is what you are claiming; that he did such horrible things that it is impossible for anyone to like him.

Yet here we are.

There are 208 million eligible voters (adult US citizens) in the US. 46% of that is 95 million people.

[NYC Liberal]

116. Again, that's not what your OP expressed.

Your OP expressed what seemed to be your OWN opinion that Bush was likeable.

[Xipe Totec]

117. You seem to be confused. My opinion that Bush is likeable does not mean I like him

Only that I acknowledge that people like him.

Please read more carefully.

[MatthewStLouis]

98. At least you knew what you were getting with Bush. Rmoney is fickle and aloof. Scary and unknowable.

[hisownpetard]

99. Likeable? Really? Seriously??!

Wow.

[Xipe Totec]

100. LOL

You have to read the entire post

We're talking relative likeability between Dubya and Mittens.

48% of the public still likes Dubya, versus 43% for the Mittster.

Not enough to get either of them elected but that's still a sizable chunk of the US population.

As much as we hate Dubya, and believe me I hate that phony Texan, there are still a lot of people in this country who like him. And that's a fact you and I can't change, no matter how much it galls us.

[Blue_Tires]

101. Likable? uhh...NO

[orpupilofnature57]

102. Shrub was What ??????????

He was the biggest piece of shit to ever Ruin our Country , Are you out of your fucking Mind ????? To put a positive spin on Poppies puppy is asinine.

[Xipe Totec]

105. Word of advice: criticize the post all you want, but don't get personal. nt

[orpupilofnature57]

107. Sorry, advice taken

Please don't find anythings redeeming about Hitler, pedophiles or cancer for the rest of today 9/28/12 ,Just pleading not advising, thanks and Sorry again.

[Xipe Totec]

112. Thanks!

Peace!

PS: I hate the sonababitch too.

Somehow, that part was lost in the message.

[moobu2]

108. Yeah, he had the fake ranch and the Stepford wife thing going on.

That seemed to appeal to a lot of people for some reason.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

110. I never found Bush the least bit charming or likable

His dumbass bs act drove me up the wall. I think he's a mean-spirited, small-minded shit. I can’t find someone who lied to my face and got thousands killed “likable”. He’s not smarmy like Romney, but I wouldn’t mind Romney’s oily fake personality if there was a caring human being behind it. To me both are complete assholes and it makes them both unlikable. And Romney has a long long way to go before I hate him like I hate Bush. Bush earned my hatred.

[crunch60]

111. The Bush Family, not likable, not one of them, incluiding the shrub, Duyba.

Lets not ever forget the Bush Family Evil Empire.

http://knowyourbfee.blogspot.com/

[Justice]

115. no, he wasn't. Romney is not worse than Bush, he is equally as bad.

[onecent]

118. no W was not a likable asshole ..HE WAS JUST A

FUCKING ASSHOLE...AND NEVER EVER EVER LIKABLE.

Mitt is bad...but NO ONE CAN EVER TOP THE ASSHOLE OF ALL ASSHOLES
W

[Dash87]

119. I know what you mean.

W was not likable to us, but he was at least a smidgen of a normal human being. He didn't talk like a robot, strap his dog to the top of a car, call half of the nation mooching losers, accidentally insult every foreign country he visited (setting some kind of world record, probably), or walk like the Tin Man from the Wizard of Oz - at least not in his campaigns.

He saved the idiocy for later (trying to massage a foreign leaders' shoulders, trying to escape from a tough press conference only to find the locked door, getting a shoe thrown at him, choking on a pretzel).

Basically, what i comes down to is, Mitt Romney must be a colossal idiot if he can't even avoid gaffes on the campaign trail. The fact that this man even went through the primaries is scary.

[Xipe Totec]

120. Brother!

Thank you for your understanding




It is a luxury to be understood.
— Ralph Waldo Emerson