Why did the League of Conservation Voters endorse Hillary over Bernie?

[gyroscope]

that's the real issue, not this logo nonsense.

Her lifetime score is 82% versus Bernie's 95% lifetime, and his track record is much longer.

Was someone paid off? Or is there another explanation for this?

[HassleCat]

1. An insider's game

Lobbyists tend to side with people they know will be hospitable to their sales pitches. LCV figures Clinton is a better bet for getting what they want, since she is connected.

[gyroscope]

6. Yeah, her connections to the fracking and offshore drilling industry

ought to be just terrific for the environment. lets give her an endorsement




Hillary Clinton Attending Fundraiser With Pro-Keystone XL Lobbyist
Clinton recently stated opposition to the pipeline
Jan 12, 2016
http://freebeacon.com/politics/hillary-clinton-attending-fundraiser-with-pro-keystone-xl-lobbyist/

[cheapdate]

9. My thoughts as well.

[enough]

2. Because they thought she would win. (nt)

[gyroscope]

10. And if she wins, it could be very bad for the environment

given how much she is in bed with the fossil fuel industry.

Win for Hillary, loss for the environment. Does that make sense to anyone.

[still_one]

3. Why is everything a conspiracy if it is for Hillary, but not Bernie?

[Hoyt]

11. Paranoia is really deep.

[angrychair]

15. Its not

Doesn't change the point. His voting record on things that matter most to LCV is longer and he has a higher eating from them. He opposed KXL from the beginning. He opposed giving federal land for more fracking.. He has spoken for years and passionately about the dangers of climate change.
I think when measured against past endorsements she is a good second but not a first. Not a conspiracy, just how it is supposed to work.

[reformist2]

4. Because if you go against the establishment and they win, then you could be punished.

The consequences of going against Bernie are much less risky.

[frylock]

17. This right here.

[m-lekktor]

21. People don't want to piss of the Clintons. nt

[Armstead]

5. The founder and director of it is a long-time Clinton crony

Google the organization and Carol Browner. It will become immediately apparent.

[malokvale77]

20. Also...

http://www.muckety.com/John-D-Podesta/8565.muckety

[m-lekktor]

22. Oh shit I remember that name . No wonder. nt

[Recursion]

7. Because they think she can win the general and he can't (nt)

[tammywammy]

8. The scorecard is only based off her Senate voting record

They also took into account things she did while Secretary.

http://www.lcv.org/media/press-releases/LCV-Action-Fund-Endorses-Hillary-Clinton-for-President.html

Hillary Clinton has a long history of strong environmental leadership. As a Senator, Clinton supported a number of important climate and clean energy bills, including reducing carbon and other pollutants from power plants, repealing Big Oil tax handouts, and investing in renewable energy. Clinton also proposed several environmental justice initiatives. As Secretary of State, she made climate change a top priority. Clinton appointed the first-ever Special Envoy for Climate Change who serves as the Administration’s point person for climate negotiations, including the recent, historic bilateral climate agreement with China and formed the Climate and Clean Air Coalition, a partnership with dozens of other countries to reduce short-lived climate pollutants like black carbon and methane. In 2009, Clinton made a breakthrough announcement committing the U.S. to help jointly mobilize $100 billion by 2020 to help communities across the world deal with the ravages of climate change. This commitment helped reinvigorate stalled negotiations and led to an agreement in Copenhagen.

[karynnj]

16. The LCV statement is intentionally dishonest - the bipartisan US/China pact was Kerry's, not HRC's

The lack of a date on that , explains why it is oddly out of chronological order. It hides that the bilateral relationship with China was done in 2014. That effort started when John Kerry spoke to the Chinese, found that they were open to working with him - not surprising as Kerry worked with the Chinese in the Bali conference in 2007. Obama okayed negotiations and Kerry himself played a key role. It is true that Todd Stern was very important to this effort, but without Kerry those negotiations would not have happened and for those entire negotiations he reported to Kerry, not Clinton.

Remember the debate where HRC spoke of hunting down the Chinese ... The agreement at Copenhagen was considered a disappointment to most in the diplomatic community. When she left as Secretary of State, the common wisdom is that NOTHING much would happen diplomatically on climate change. The reason - the Chinese were not working with us.

The Secretary who made climate change a signature issue is JOHN KERRY, who had worked on it for decades. When he was asked to be secretary, he told Obama that he wanted climate change to be as much an issue he addressed as women and children's issues were for Obama.

[pandr32]

12. The real issue is the dishonest use of the logo

But nice try. This is not the first dishonest tactic either--in fact, it is starting to look like business as usual--all is fair in love and war--and a faux revolution as well, right?

[FrenchieCat]

13. Because they know she can win a general election...

and so all of their hard work and progress won't be for nothing?

I don't think they endorsed solely on Votes....
as she's been First Lady, and Secretary of state....
and prior to that First lady of Arkansas....
etc.., etc..., etc...? just guessing.

[m-lekktor]

23. yeah like she did in 2008.

[99th_Monkey]

14. Leadership 'you scratch my back, i scratch yours" over membership polling and

how the candidates are actually rated by the group.

That's been an issue all along. Groups that poll members, endorse Bernie. Others? Not so much.

[jwirr]

18. IMO a lot of groups are making these endorsements way to

early and are basing them on presumed electability. They are not looking at the issues at all. They are running in fear that Trump will win.

[malokvale77]

19. John Podesta

http://www.muckety.com/John-D-Podesta/8565.muckety