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ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
Sun May 3, 2015, 05:49 AM May 2015

i'm going to ask a question here, cuz I can't find a place to ask it.

first a disclaimer, I know this group is a refuge from politics, and I am not trying to bring politics in, but I'm using a political issue as an example.

I try to understand how do peoples' minds work, esp people I disagree with.
Not for ex climate deniers - I don't try to understand how their mind works.
but suppose someone seemingly shares my values and then supports things which are counter to these values.

Cognitive dissonance it is called and it is highly evident here at du.

is anyone here interested in discussing this. I don't feel like bringing up something and then being smashed for it, and serving no purpose except to get people driven by their drama.

this group seems to be a place where people are thoughtful, and I can't find any place on du for thoughtful discussion. Am I missing it? Bec. if there is no such place, that would account for a lot of what I hate about du.

thank you for your thoughts.

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i'm going to ask a question here, cuz I can't find a place to ask it. (Original Post) ellenrr May 2015 OP
I see this all the time canoeist52 May 2015 #1
I agree about 'emotional content and not substance'.. ellenrr May 2015 #3
OK. I am up for discussion of "cognitive dissonance". bemildred May 2015 #2
I see that cognitive dissonance all the time. LWolf Jun 2015 #4
One of my favorite Far Side toons MasonDreams Apr 2016 #5
My father used CD all the time when I was growing up, and he'd then tell me to trust him. no_hypocrisy May 2016 #6

canoeist52

(2,282 posts)
1. I see this all the time
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:33 AM
May 2015

With friends on facebook. They like most of my liberal posts, but also like right-wing posts. They don't understand that the ideas fro each camp are diametrically opposed. I think they just like the emotional content and not the actual substance. It's saddening but I try to keep a sense of humor about this.

"Be assured that a walk through the ocean of most souls
would scarcely get your feet wet" -Deteriorata

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6018168

ellenrr

(3,864 posts)
3. I agree about 'emotional content and not substance'..
Fri May 8, 2015, 04:57 AM
May 2015

I blame that on the infotainment and entertainment industry.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
2. OK. I am up for discussion of "cognitive dissonance".
Thu May 7, 2015, 05:42 AM
May 2015

Edit: I don't come here more than once or twice a year, but I will see your responses to my posts.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
4. I see that cognitive dissonance all the time.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 06:33 PM
Jun 2015

I usually don't point it out, because it will inevitably offend.

I know that Democrats like to think they are somehow smarter and better than others, but, really, DU is often a mirror of its opposite. There are plenty of DUers who like having a team and an enemy, without really thinking things through. In my opinion.

And, to be honest, I'm a pretty blunt person, and I'm not that patient. You know that old response in social situations: "Hey, tell us what you REALLY think?" That's me, way too often.

MasonDreams

(756 posts)
5. One of my favorite Far Side toons
Sat Apr 2, 2016, 08:58 PM
Apr 2016

Just says it well. All emotion no thought.
Two amoeba one says to the other "stimulus response, stimulus response; Don't you ever think?"

no_hypocrisy

(46,093 posts)
6. My father used CD all the time when I was growing up, and he'd then tell me to trust him.
Sun May 29, 2016, 10:39 PM
May 2016

Even at age 4, I knew I had to trust my own judgment over my father's. I think the common parlance is "gaslighting".

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