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Don't have the nerve to post this elsewhere (Original Post) Brainstormy Mar 2022 OP
As an atheist, I can see why he included that statement. no_hypocrisy Mar 2022 #1
Joe's faith is a coping mechanism which helped him when his wife and daughter were killed. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #2
I just use unicorns. :) n/t Brainstormy Mar 2022 #4
Yes whatever works. Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #7
One can have faith and not be religious Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #3
of course. But that's a different use Brainstormy Mar 2022 #5
Perhaps 🤔 Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #6
I always liked this definition of faith: mitch96 Mar 2022 #8
I think the word "faith"... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #9
Yes I really recoil when they want to say religion but they go with faith-based Walleye Mar 2022 #10
If they want to avoid the word religion... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #11
They don't want to say religion because they know religion has a lot to answer for in world history Walleye Mar 2022 #12
agree. It's mealy-mouthed nonsense, like Brainstormy Mar 2022 #14
there's a big difference Brainstormy Mar 2022 #13
Biden's Irish Catholic Warpy Mar 2022 #15

no_hypocrisy

(46,746 posts)
1. As an atheist, I can see why he included that statement.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 08:37 AM
Mar 2022

After Trump's false prophet act, I understand why Biden feels the need to invoke faith. It's unfortunately expected.
Plus, Biden, as head of the Democratic Party, likely has pressure to prove that Dems are as religious as the RWNJ's.
Plus, Biden is genuinely pious. He may have been inspired at the moment.

Irish_Dem

(50,610 posts)
2. Joe's faith is a coping mechanism which helped him when his wife and daughter were killed.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 08:47 AM
Mar 2022

And then his son's death.

It was a coping strategy which saved him.

Deeply ingrained, he falls back on it during times of crisis.

It is not a bad thing, it gives him a confidence, strength and optimism.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. Perhaps 🤔
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 09:03 AM
Mar 2022

Faith is up to the individual involved. I really don’t think that Biden’s statement is a huge issue.

mitch96

(14,042 posts)
8. I always liked this definition of faith:
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:24 AM
Mar 2022

"firm belief in something for which there is no proof. " Merriam Webster
What ever works for you to get thru the day and not harm or hurt anyone. YMMV
m

2naSalit

(88,037 posts)
9. I think the word "faith"...
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:24 AM
Mar 2022

Has been co-opted by the uber religious and/or foisted upon those who are just trying to avoid the word religion.

Faith, in my interpretation and it bothers me that so many think it is a synonym of religion:

The strong sense that some thing or event is what one expects it/that to be whether there is tangible evidence or not.

Walleye

(31,629 posts)
10. Yes I really recoil when they want to say religion but they go with faith-based
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:27 AM
Mar 2022

Their euphemisms are not just inaccurate. They sound stupid

2naSalit

(88,037 posts)
11. If they want to avoid the word religion...
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:32 AM
Mar 2022

They should use the term belief system as it is called by anthropologists.

Walleye

(31,629 posts)
12. They don't want to say religion because they know religion has a lot to answer for in world history
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:35 AM
Mar 2022

Brainstormy

(2,385 posts)
14. agree. It's mealy-mouthed nonsense, like
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:56 AM
Mar 2022

the whole "spirituality" thing. Means all things to all people and is thus completely empty of meaning.

Brainstormy

(2,385 posts)
13. there's a big difference
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:54 AM
Mar 2022

in "faith" in the supernatural which is unprovable, and "faith" meaning confidence, based on accumulated evidence. Faith in god is of the first type. Faith that the sun will come up, that I can't survive this dive off this cliff, or that my dog loves me, is of the second.

Warpy

(111,847 posts)
15. Biden's Irish Catholic
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 04:40 PM
Mar 2022

and was speaking to a largely Catholic Polish crowd.

He might have issued a sop to god, but he's also sending weapons to Ukraine and humanitarian aid to countries refugees are fleeing to.

That puts him way ahead of the thoughts and prayers Republicans. I don't care what he believes or says. I care about what he does.

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