Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:35 PM

SkyDaddy7 (6,045 posts)

Need HELP with this LIE...32,000 Scientist against AGW

I know this is just yet another game the Denialist play to confuse & use the general populist into thinking there is "REAL" opposition to Anthropogenic Global Warming/Climate Change.

I know the people signing this petition do not qualify to speak out against AGW...Or at least most of them do not. I know there are many other flaws to the claim that 32,000 "Scientist" have come out in opposition...What I need is help explaining this to a friend who has recently bought in to the propaganda!

Can someone point me to a website or provide me with some creditable sources that explains the trick be played by the Denialist?

Thank-you!

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10 replies	Author	Time	Post
Need HELP with this LIE...32,000 Scientist against AGW (Original post)	SkyDaddy7	Dec 2011	OP
Try Snopes if the meme has gone viral.	Old and In the Way	Dec 2011	#1
This only works	pscot	Dec 2011	#2
My Name is Dr. Krispos, and I am against AGW.	krispos42	Dec 2011	#3
EXACTLY!	SkyDaddy7	Dec 2011	#4
You mean my mom's MSW degree doesn't qualify her to weigh in on GCC?	krispos42	Dec 2011	#5
Does that count?	AlbertCat	Dec 2011	#7
Sounds like the infamous Oregon Petition	caraher	Dec 2011	#6
Here is a one stop climate denier debunker site...	immoderate	Dec 2011	#8
you can get this as an iphone app, too.	mopinko	Dec 2011	#9
I have a couple of knuckleheads I discuss this with.	immoderate	Dec 2011	#10

Response to SkyDaddy7 (Original post)

Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:44 PM

Old and In the Way (37,540 posts)

1. Try Snopes if the meme has gone viral.

I think they simply swapped the "for" and "against" words when describing the 32,000 scientists and their positions on AGW. The deniers don't argue from facts anyways. Simply claim the scientists for your own position.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Original post)

Mon Dec 12, 2011, 11:05 PM

pscot (21,006 posts)

2. This only works

if you count every TV weathergirl in the country as a scientist.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Original post)

Mon Dec 12, 2011, 11:09 PM

krispos42 (49,445 posts)

3. My Name is Dr. Krispos, and I am against AGW.

I will gladly sign your petition against this scientific atrocity!

What am I a scientist of? Computers! I have a doctorate in computer science and engineering from UMass.

Does that count?

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 12, 2011, 11:44 PM

SkyDaddy7 (6,045 posts)

4. EXACTLY!

And from what I have found on my own only 9000 of the 32,000 even have PhDs. Out of the ones that do only around 200 are in Geosciences & most of those are not actively studying climate related topics.

It is SAD that so many Americans are clueless or lack just the basics critical thinking skills needed to sniff out BS when their faces are being rubbed in it!

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 12, 2011, 11:59 PM

krispos42 (49,445 posts)

5. You mean my mom's MSW degree doesn't qualify her to weigh in on GCC?

Shocking!

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Response to krispos42 (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:26 AM

AlbertCat (17,505 posts)

7. Does that count?

Egg-zactly.

Did they ask scientists in the correct field, or dental hygienists? (one at my dentist thinks atheists worship the devil

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:25 AM

caraher (6,230 posts)

6. Sounds like the infamous Oregon Petition

There's a lot out there on it; you can Google "Oregon Petition" or try this and pages linked therein.

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Response to SkyDaddy7 (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:19 PM

immoderate (20,885 posts)

8. Here is a one stop climate denier debunker site...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/

Lots of good answers here.

The 32,000 "scientists" are not climate scientists.

On edit: This page is a direct refutation of that:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/OISM-Petition-Project.htm

--imm

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Response to immoderate (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:23 PM

mopinko (66,423 posts)

9. you can get this as an iphone app, too.

handy, although i have yet to come face to face with any of these idiots, so, i haven't had a chance to use it.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 04:26 PM

immoderate (20,885 posts)

10. I have a couple of knuckleheads I discuss this with.

Actually, I just cut them off. They would just attack my sources. They really hated Skeptical Science -- and DU.

--imm

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