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SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:35 PM Dec 2011

Need HELP with this LIE...32,000 Scientist against AGW

I know this is just yet another game the Denialist play to confuse & use the general populist into thinking there is "REAL" opposition to Anthropogenic Global Warming/Climate Change.

I know the people signing this petition do not qualify to speak out against AGW...Or at least most of them do not. I know there are many other flaws to the claim that 32,000 "Scientist" have come out in opposition...What I need is help explaining this to a friend who has recently bought in to the propaganda!

Can someone point me to a website or provide me with some creditable sources that explains the trick be played by the Denialist?

Thank-you!

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Need HELP with this LIE...32,000 Scientist against AGW (Original Post) SkyDaddy7 Dec 2011 OP
Try Snopes if the meme has gone viral. Old and In the Way Dec 2011 #1
This only works pscot Dec 2011 #2
My Name is Dr. Krispos, and I am against AGW. krispos42 Dec 2011 #3
EXACTLY! SkyDaddy7 Dec 2011 #4
You mean my mom's MSW degree doesn't qualify her to weigh in on GCC? krispos42 Dec 2011 #5
Does that count? AlbertCat Dec 2011 #7
Sounds like the infamous Oregon Petition caraher Dec 2011 #6
Here is a one stop climate denier debunker site... immoderate Dec 2011 #8
you can get this as an iphone app, too. mopinko Dec 2011 #9
I have a couple of knuckleheads I discuss this with. immoderate Dec 2011 #10

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
1. Try Snopes if the meme has gone viral.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 09:44 PM
Dec 2011

I think they simply swapped the "for" and "against" words when describing the 32,000 scientists and their positions on AGW. The deniers don't argue from facts anyways. Simply claim the scientists for your own position.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
3. My Name is Dr. Krispos, and I am against AGW.
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 11:09 PM
Dec 2011

I will gladly sign your petition against this scientific atrocity!

What am I a scientist of? Computers! I have a doctorate in computer science and engineering from UMass.


Does that count?

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
4. EXACTLY!
Mon Dec 12, 2011, 11:44 PM
Dec 2011

And from what I have found on my own only 9000 of the 32,000 even have PhDs. Out of the ones that do only around 200 are in Geosciences & most of those are not actively studying climate related topics.

It is SAD that so many Americans are clueless or lack just the basics critical thinking skills needed to sniff out BS when their faces are being rubbed in it!

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
7. Does that count?
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:26 AM
Dec 2011

Egg-zactly.

Did they ask scientists in the correct field, or dental hygienists? (one at my dentist thinks atheists worship the devil )

caraher

(6,284 posts)
6. Sounds like the infamous Oregon Petition
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:25 AM
Dec 2011

There's a lot out there on it; you can Google "Oregon Petition" or try this and pages linked therein.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
8. Here is a one stop climate denier debunker site...
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:19 PM
Dec 2011
http://www.skepticalscience.com/

Lots of good answers here.

The 32,000 "scientists" are not climate scientists.

On edit: This page is a direct refutation of that:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/OISM-Petition-Project.htm

--imm

mopinko

(70,751 posts)
9. you can get this as an iphone app, too.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:23 PM
Dec 2011

handy, although i have yet to come face to face with any of these idiots, so, i haven't had a chance to use it.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
10. I have a couple of knuckleheads I discuss this with.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 04:26 PM
Dec 2011

Actually, I just cut them off. They would just attack my sources. They really hated Skeptical Science -- and DU.

--imm

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