Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:22 PM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
Uncle Bernie's Anti-Semitism Problem
Democratic presidential front-runner Bernie Sanders announced he will boycott this week’s American Israel Public Affairs Committee conference because of the “bigotry” of leaders it hosts. If Sanders wants to boycott bigotry, he should look closer to home: at his anti-Semitic political cheerleaders.
Last Labor Day weekend, Sanders was the headliner in Houston at the 56th annual convention of the Islamic Society of North America, where the theme was, “What’s your super power for social good?” Some misguided “super powers” suggested at the conference for “social good” include actual bigotry laced with anti-Semitism: the boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movement, which seeks a “one-state solution” with a “right of return” for Palestinians so they outnumber Jews; the elimination of Israel from "The River to the Sea" as ally Marc Lamont Hill, a professor and author, declares; and violent hate, including a book, “Reliance of the Traveller,” which I bought in the conference bazaar for $39.99, sanctioning jihad as “war against non-Muslims” and “war upon Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians.” To my chagrin, as someone who voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary, these anti-Semites enjoy growing influence on Sanders, building a disturbing coalition with anti-Israel groups such as Jewish Voice for Peace, IfNotNow and Code Pink. Sanders’ supporters say they are “only anti-Zionist,” and Sanders denies his allies are anti-Semitic. But when you cheer a plan to destroy the state of the Jewish people, it is anti-Semitism. Hate of the Jewish state is anti-Semitism. https://jewishjournal.com/columnist/311085/uncle-bernies-anti-semitism-problem-2/
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grossproffit | Feb 2020 | OP |
elleng | Feb 2020 | #1 | |
grossproffit | Feb 2020 | #2 | |
elleng | Feb 2020 | #7 | |
grossproffit | Feb 2020 | #9 | |
elleng | Feb 2020 | #10 | |
grossproffit | Feb 2020 | #11 | |
elleng | Feb 2020 | #12 | |
question everything | Feb 2020 | #13 | |
mucifer | Feb 2020 | #14 | |
question everything | Feb 2020 | #16 | |
question everything | Feb 2020 | #5 | |
mucifer | Feb 2020 | #15 | |
question everything | Feb 2020 | #17 | |
grossproffit | Feb 2020 | #18 | |
Cary | Feb 2020 | #19 | |
elleng | Feb 2020 | #20 | |
Cary | Feb 2020 | #21 | |
emmaverybo | Feb 2020 | #3 | |
grossproffit | Feb 2020 | #4 | |
elleng | Feb 2020 | #8 | |
question everything | Feb 2020 | #6 |
Response to grossproffit (Original post)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:30 PM
elleng (122,935 posts)
1. Hate of the 'Jewish state' is NOT anti-Semitism.
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Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:36 PM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
2. Calling for the destruction of the world's only Jewish state IS antisemitism.
Response to grossproffit (Reply #9)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 07:48 PM
elleng (122,935 posts)
10. Backatcha:
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Response to elleng (Reply #10)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 09:49 PM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
11. Do you support the destruction of the entire Middle East or only Israel?
Response to elleng (Reply #12)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 11:03 PM
question everything (45,052 posts)
13. This is a group. Perhaps you should not visit here in the future.
Response to question everything (Reply #13)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:07 AM
mucifer (22,290 posts)
14. This is a Jewish Group. It's not a Zionist Group:
Cut and pasted from the description of this group:
Jewish Group (Group): About This Group Statement of Purpose Discuss Judaism's beliefs, share faith experiences, discuss anti-Semitism, post prayer requests, discuss Jewish faith, traditions, religious heroes, holidays, etc. If we are only welcome here if we are Zionists I would like to know and maybe the description of the group should change. |
Response to mucifer (Reply #14)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:09 AM
question everything (45,052 posts)
16. If you will take the time to read many posts here you will find out that many so-called anti zionist
rallies are anti semitic ones. See post 5, below.
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Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 06:13 PM
question everything (45,052 posts)
5. Look at this Palestinian woman in an anti Israel rally calling for Jews to "go back to the oven"
and then come back and tell me that anti Israel, is not mixed with anti semitism
And this is just one example that was actually documented |
Response to question everything (Reply #5)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:09 AM
mucifer (22,290 posts)
15. There are individual Israelis who say things just as horrible about Palestinians.
Key word individuals.
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Response to mucifer (Reply #15)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 12:17 AM
question everything (45,052 posts)
17. I am not aware that Palestinians were victims of a a plan to annihilate them.
and, of course, there is a rise of Anti Semitism all over the world, often hidden as "anti Israel."
This is what is covered on these pages but I suppose you just want to disrupt. I am not aware that Palestinians were victims of a a plan to annihilate them. |
Response to question everything (Reply #17)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:25 AM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
18. Thank you for saying this, QE.
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Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 09:29 AM
Cary (11,719 posts)
19. Why do you use the term "Jewish state"
Why not call it Israel? And why use scare quotes?
You're wrong. "Hate of the 'Jewish state' may or may not be anti-Semitic but it usually is anti-Semitic, or a lame excuse for apologiats for anti-Semites. |
Response to Cary (Reply #19)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 01:44 PM
elleng (122,935 posts)
20. quoting the article, last sentence.
You are right, of course, it should be referred to as Israel, but those who want to make a point, I guess, refer to it otherwise.
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Response to elleng (Reply #20)
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 01:50 PM
Cary (11,719 posts)
21. There are 1.2 million Palestinian Israeli citzens
They live in Israel in relative peace and their standard of living is better than it would be in any of the 22 miserable Arab nations.
No one ever talks about them. |
Response to grossproffit (Original post)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 05:44 PM
emmaverybo (8,143 posts)
3. He supports the state and has said so many times. He does not support the military policy of
disproportionate response as used in Gaza. He expresses sympathy for the plight of the Palestinian people. If he is anti-Semitic for this reason, his challenging the government, then so are many other American Jews and so is the UN.
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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #3)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 06:05 PM
grossproffit (5,591 posts)
4. The point is that he spoke at the one event but will not speak at the other.
Response to emmaverybo (Reply #3)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 06:40 PM
elleng (122,935 posts)
8. THANK YOU, Emmaverybo
I'll 'exit' from this thread, I think.
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Response to grossproffit (Original post)
Wed Feb 26, 2020, 06:15 PM
question everything (45,052 posts)
6. Frankly I think that when it is covneinet for him he declares himself
a Jew.
I would like to know how his Judaism is being manifested in his daily life. A membership at J Street, at least? |