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rug

(82,333 posts)
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 12:49 PM Jun 2012

Indonesian Atheist Jailed for Prophet Mohammed Cartoons

June 14, 2012

An Indonesian man arrested after writing “God doesn’t exist” on his Facebook page was jailed for 30 months Thursday for sharing explicit material about the Prophet Mohammed online.

Alexander Aan, 30, was found guilty of “deliberately spreading information inciting religious hatred and animosity,” presiding judge Eka Prasetya Budi Dharma told the Muaro Sijunjung district court in western Sumatra.

Aan started an atheist group on Facebook on which he shared comic strips of the prophet having sex with his servant, Dharma said.

He also uploaded three articles on his account, including one describing the prophet being attracted to his daughter-in-law.

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/home/indonesian-atheist-jailed-for-prophet-mohammed-cartoons/524376

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Indonesian Atheist Jailed for Prophet Mohammed Cartoons (Original Post) rug Jun 2012 OP
... Presiding judge Eka Prasetya Budi Dharma said Alexander had been proven guilty of defaming Islam struggle4progress Jun 2012 #1
people with insecure beliefs in fear based religions must oppress all opposition nt msongs Jun 2012 #2
Do you think Mr. Aan is a bigot? 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #3
Why would you ask? rug Jun 2012 #4
I already asked that and got the usual smokescreen, so I'm asking a different question. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #5
You haven't answered my question. rug Jun 2012 #6
Yes I have. The subject of my previous post above, before the comma, is the answer. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #12
No. You haven't. rug Jun 2012 #14
I made my question before you made yours. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #16
Ok, the stupid alarm just went off. rug Jun 2012 #17
Well, the Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #20
Did something wake you? rug Jun 2012 #21
Obviously, the stupid alarm did. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #22
It's good to see you alert. rug Jun 2012 #23
Have a nice day. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #24
You too. rug Jun 2012 #25
The sentence is overly harsh, but it's clear that he went beyond humblebum Jun 2012 #7
So if someone were to say Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #8
I suppose its a matter of opinion, but if it matches the definition of bigotry... humblebum Jun 2012 #9
You seriously believe "All Muslims are dumbasses/All Christians are dumbasses" would NOT be hidden? 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #11
Where did I say that or even suggest it? humblebum Jun 2012 #13
Have a nice day. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #15
What about all creationists are dumbasses? n/t Goblinmonger Jun 2012 #18
Well, that would be just a statement of fact. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #19
He didn't ridicule it. daaron Jun 2012 #10

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
1. ... Presiding judge Eka Prasetya Budi Dharma said Alexander had been proven guilty of defaming Islam
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jun 2012

and insulting the Prophet Muhammad through his Facebook account and a fan page titled Ateis Minang (Minang Atheist).

Prosecutors previously sought 3.5 years’ imprisonment without a fine for Alex.

“We considered he acted deliberately, as he did not delete [the information] after protestors reported it to police; whereas he, as an administrator of the fan page, was able to do that,” Eka said.

The judge cited several sentences deemed defamatory, such as Muhammad tertarik kepada menantunya sendiri (Muhammad was attracted to his own daughter-in-law) and Kisah Nabi Muhammad bersenggama dengan babu istrinya (The story of Prophet Muhammad having sexual intercourse with his wife’s maid) ...

‘Minang atheist’ sentenced to 2.5 years in prison
Syofiardi Bachyul Jb, The Jakarta Post, Padang
Thu, 06/14/2012 9:31 PM
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/06/14/minang-atheist-sentenced-25-years-prison.html

 

Goblinmonger

(22,340 posts)
20. Well, the
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 05:55 PM
Jun 2012

"I'm evasive and rather than answer a question I will resort to personal attacks" alarm just went off.

 

humblebum

(5,881 posts)
7. The sentence is overly harsh, but it's clear that he went beyond
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 01:43 PM
Jun 2012

expressing his non-belief to purposely ridiculing the beliefs of others. So yes, he fits the definition of a bigot.

 

humblebum

(5,881 posts)
9. I suppose its a matter of opinion, but if it matches the definition of bigotry...
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 03:02 PM
Jun 2012

If I said the same about all atheists, I'd be bleeped immediately and labeled a bigot. Of that I have little doubt.

2ndAmForComputers

(3,527 posts)
11. You seriously believe "All Muslims are dumbasses/All Christians are dumbasses" would NOT be hidden?
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 04:57 PM
Jun 2012

Really?

 

daaron

(763 posts)
10. He didn't ridicule it.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 04:21 PM
Jun 2012

He shared information about traditions in Islamic literature which have existed for centuries, all of which was created by someone else. Is it ridiculing Judaism to point out how many of the prophets and kings impregnated and raped unwilling women repeatedly, keeping them as chattel? I read the cartoon, and it's like an Illustrated Bible depicting, word for word, a story from the Koran. The mere fact that it depicts the Prophet at all is the 'ridicule' and standard for bigotry that was applied to Mr. Aan. I'm not sure anyone ought to be calling Mr. Aan a bigot here in the U.S. of A.. It comes off as ignorant and intentionally inflammatory. Not sure why anyone would want to start a flame war, but... I guess we each use the internet in our own way.

Personally, I'm a big fan of Rule #14.

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