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stone space

(6,498 posts)
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:23 PM Oct 2016

VP Joe Biden Calls Trump's Alleged Behavior a 'Cardinal Sin'



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Biden went on to explain his work in combating sexual assault over his career and why he is so passionate about Trump’s comments, which he made without, apparently, knowing he was being recorded.

“My dad used to say the greatest sin of all is abuse of power, and the cardinal sin of all is a man raising his hand or taking advantage of a woman,” Biden said. “And here’s a guy who says, ‘I’m a star … so I can go in, intimidate women into allowing me to assault them and assume they’re not going to say anything.’ That is the ultimate abuse of power, and I don’t understand how anyone can remotely justify that.”

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/vp-joe-biden-calls-trumps-alleged-behavior-cardinal/story?id=42771735
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VP Joe Biden Calls Trump's Alleged Behavior a 'Cardinal Sin' (Original Post) stone space Oct 2016 OP
I agree with you, Joe. WheelWalker Oct 2016 #1
Me too...I stand with Biden on damn near everything. Moostache Oct 2016 #2
And millions of other Catholics, including the entire church leadership... trotsky Oct 2016 #3
I think that those on the religious right have to honestly ask themselves a simple question. stone space Oct 2016 #4
You should go find out what their answer is, since you're so curious about it. trotsky Oct 2016 #5
Let me see if I can put this in a way that you might understand. stone space Oct 2016 #6
Nope, because I can't answer that question, as I explained to you. trotsky Oct 2016 #7
Why are you so nasty? stone space Oct 2016 #8
Could you explain what exactly you found "nasty" about my response? trotsky Oct 2016 #9
You don't have to answer. It's no big deal. stone space Oct 2016 #10
Really? It was a big enough deal for you to call me out on it. trotsky Oct 2016 #11
Not worth my time. I was just curious, that's all. No big deal. stone space Oct 2016 #12
Not worth your time to apologize for implying I'm dim? trotsky Oct 2016 #13
Oh, good Lord! stone space Oct 2016 #14
What's the matter? trotsky Oct 2016 #15
calm down, trotsky...no need to go on and on stone space Oct 2016 #16
Why not? trotsky Oct 2016 #17
you seem obsessed stone space Oct 2016 #18
Naw, I've drawn this out long enough to show exactly what I wanted to. trotsky Oct 2016 #19
Here it is in a way you can understand Lordquinton Oct 2016 #20
Here's an idea: since you have a userid on Discussionist, and it's not currently suspended, muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #21
Damn! I need to get my star back. I'm seeing ads for other websites, here. stone space Oct 2016 #22
Replies like that are why no one takes you seriously. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #23
Do you have anything besides personal insults and commercial spam for other websites? stone space Oct 2016 #24
It's criticism, not insults. And you know very well Discussionist is run by the DU admins muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #25
Why are you here if you believe that personal insults are the only things worth posting? stone space Oct 2016 #26
It's criticism, not insults. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #27
LOL! stone space Oct 2016 #28
Hey, guys! Stone Space did not call out Trotsky. raging moderate Oct 2016 #29
Hi there, raging moderate. trotsky Oct 2016 #30
He doesn't have to. He 's already made an astute observation. rug Oct 2016 #31
Sometimes, a simple favor can result in a very, very long thread. stone space Oct 2016 #33
My post could easily be answered in a single reply. trotsky Oct 2016 #34
OK. Have a nice day! stone space Oct 2016 #35
Hey, guy, trotsky replied with a post about cardinal sins muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #32

Moostache

(9,920 posts)
2. Me too...I stand with Biden on damn near everything.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 12:41 PM
Oct 2016

When it comes to taking Trump to task for stupidity, Biden is in a class of his own...

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
3. And millions of other Catholics, including the entire church leadership...
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 02:23 PM
Oct 2016

considers abortion, or the support of keeping it legal, to be a cardinal sin as well.

We can all agree Drumpf is a Grade A shitbag. We don't need any religion to tell us that.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
4. I think that those on the religious right have to honestly ask themselves a simple question.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 02:53 PM
Oct 2016

Who would Jesus grope?



trotsky

(49,533 posts)
5. You should go find out what their answer is, since you're so curious about it.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 02:59 PM
Oct 2016

You aren't going to find many of them here, as muriel_volestrangler so adeptly schooled you in your other thread.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
7. Nope, because I can't answer that question, as I explained to you.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:24 PM
Oct 2016

The people want to ask aren't on DU. Go find them.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
9. Could you explain what exactly you found "nasty" about my response?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:29 PM
Oct 2016

Please be precise. I'll happily apologize when you have identified my transgression.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
11. Really? It was a big enough deal for you to call me out on it.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 03:52 PM
Oct 2016

Seems odd that now you don't think it matters.

Perhaps you could apologize. Especially since you also insulted my intelligence by saying you would try to communicate with me in "a way that (I) might understand."

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
13. Not worth your time to apologize for implying I'm dim?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:09 PM
Oct 2016

Alrighty then. I guess the question you should answer is: Who would Jesus insult?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
15. What's the matter?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:14 PM
Oct 2016

Do you think it is unreasonable of me to ask for an apology from someone who has insulted me?

Or are you upset by the question of Who would Jesus insult?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
17. Why not?
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:20 PM
Oct 2016

Isn't apologizing when you've insulted someone a good thing?

Who would Jesus insult, stone space?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
19. Naw, I've drawn this out long enough to show exactly what I wanted to.
Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:24 PM
Oct 2016

Feel free to have your last word.

If you want, it can be the answer to the question:

Who would Jesus insult?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,622 posts)
21. Here's an idea: since you have a userid on Discussionist, and it's not currently suspended,
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 07:37 AM
Oct 2016

why don't you go there and post your question, since you would have actual members of the Religious Right to talk to there? That was the point of that website - to have a place where the left and right can interact.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
22. Damn! I need to get my star back. I'm seeing ads for other websites, here.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 07:41 AM
Oct 2016
Here's an idea: since you have a userid on Discussionist, and it's not currently suspended,

why don't you go there and post your question, since you would have actual members of the Religious Right to talk to there? That was the point of that website - to have a place where the left and right can interact.


muriel_volestrangler

(101,622 posts)
23. Replies like that are why no one takes you seriously.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 07:48 AM
Oct 2016

You're admitting you don't want anyone to actually answer your 'question', either by you actually asking the religious right about it, or by discussing what we on the left think those on the right are like, as happened in the other thread. But you just goof around, and use your meme to derail your own thread, now.

You're making your own threads toxic. No one's going to reply to threads that might have an OP worth responding to, like this one was, if you're going to piss around and do a Bart Simpson impression in return.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
24. Do you have anything besides personal insults and commercial spam for other websites?
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 07:54 AM
Oct 2016

There's no need to stalk anybody all around the internet. I'm right here.

Replies like that are why no one takes you seriously.

You're admitting you don't want anyone to actually answer your 'question', either by you actually asking the religious right about it, or by discussing what we on the left think those on the right are like, as happened in the other thread. But you just goof around, and use your meme to derail your own thread, now.

You're making your own threads toxic. No one's going to reply to threads that might have an OP worth responding to, like this one was, if you're going to piss around and do a Bart Simpson impression in return.



muriel_volestrangler

(101,622 posts)
25. It's criticism, not insults. And you know very well Discussionist is run by the DU admins
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 07:59 AM
Oct 2016

But, for you, no, that's pretty much the only thing worth aiming at you. You are stubbornly determined to not discuss anything.

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
26. Why are you here if you believe that personal insults are the only things worth posting?
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 08:04 AM
Oct 2016
It's criticism, not insults. And you know very well Discussionist is run by the DU admins

But, for you, no, that's pretty much the only thing worth aiming at you. You are stubbornly determined to not discuss anything.


Aren't there other websites where personal insults are encouraged rather than discouraged?

You seem to have a preference for those other websites. You are certainly free to post at them, but why drag that garbage and filth here to DU?



muriel_volestrangler

(101,622 posts)
27. It's criticism, not insults.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 08:10 AM
Oct 2016

And I'm not 'stalking you' by replying to you (in a thread you started, what's more) on DU, talking about your posts (specifically, a post you made in another thread, and then inserted here for no good reason). Replying to you is 'discussion', not stalking.

raging moderate

(4,348 posts)
29. Hey, guys! Stone Space did not call out Trotsky.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 09:13 AM
Oct 2016

Trotsky called out Stone Space.

Stone Space was quoting Joe Biden, a longtime champion for women's rights. And Stone Space wrote this OP to support women's rights.

Stone Space did not insult anyone.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
30. Hi there, raging moderate.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 09:21 AM
Oct 2016

Could you do me a favor?

Could you please explain what you think the phrase "call out" means, and then point out exactly how my post "called out" stone space?

And then, if you wouldn't mind, please explain how saying to someone "Let me see if I can put this in a way that you might understand." followed by posting a silly homemade meme is a respectful form of discourse.

Thanks so much!

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
33. Sometimes, a simple favor can result in a very, very long thread.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 02:09 PM
Oct 2016
Could you do me a favor?

(1): Could you please explain what you think the phrase "call out" means,

(2): and then point out exactly how my post "called out" stone space?

(3): And then, if you wouldn't mind, please explain how saying to someone "Let me see if I can put this in a way that you might understand."

(4): followed by posting a silly homemade meme is a respectful form of discourse.

Thanks so much!




If my count is correct, you are requesting 4 detailed posts.



Is it safe to assume that you would then be responding to each of those 4 posts, and that each of your responses would include demands for more precise explanations in a series of posts?



trotsky

(49,533 posts)
34. My post could easily be answered in a single reply.
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 02:34 PM
Oct 2016

Not to mention that I have no idea why you think 3 & 4 would be separate responses. Together they are a summary of the insult that you directed at me. I would like your friend here to explain how it was respectful discourse.

Who would Jesus insult?

 

stone space

(6,498 posts)
35. OK. Have a nice day!
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 02:42 PM
Oct 2016
My post could easily be answered in a single reply.

Not to mention that I have no idea why you think 3 & 4 would be separate responses. Together they are a summary of the insult that you directed at me. I would like your friend here to explain how it was respectful discourse.


muriel_volestrangler

(101,622 posts)
32. Hey, guy, trotsky replied with a post about cardinal sins
Fri Oct 14, 2016, 12:30 PM
Oct 2016

(the topic of the OP, especially since this is the Religion forum, so it's the religious part of what Biden said we should concentrate on). stone space then responded with a off-topic quote of himself from another thread. trotsky pointed out his posts had been a waste of everyone's time in that thread, and then came stone space's "in a way that you might understand" remark, which was mildly rude.

trotsky did not call out anyone. stone space did not call out anyone, though he was a little bit rude.

On edit: ah, I'd forgotten that stone space later called trotsky 'nasty', and trotsky termed that "calling out". While I might quibble whether that fits the exact definition of "calling out", it's certainly insulting, wouldn't you agree?

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