New Religions: (3) the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

[Yorktown]

After two threads on the First Church of Bacon and the United Church of Shatner, this third thread on New Religions is more emotional for me, for here, I am presenting the doctrine and beliefs of my own Church: the Holy Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Before I go into detail about the mainstream beliefs of our Church, it should be remembered that ours is a young Church, with beliefs which still are only gradually becoming clear to us. Our doctrine, beliefs and attitudes are therefore liable to be evolutive, sometimes transitional and/or contradictory. All of which is secondary compared to what really counts: a deep personal relationship with our god, the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster (may tomato sauce be upon it).

By decreasing importance and degree of consensus, our beliefs are:

• the Universe was created by our maker, the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster (may grated parmeggiano be upon it) on the First Day after he had drank from the Beer Volcano in Heaven. the fact the Holy FSM had drunk is the rational explanation for the imperfections of this world.

The Supreme Spaghetti enjoying the occasional prank, He hid dinosaur fossils underground to "dupe mankind" about Earth's true age. He is also the cause of gravity, pulling things down with His Holy noodly appendage (may extra virgin olive oil be upon it)

• Believers and most sinners will go to paradise where they will enjoy the Beer Volcano and hookers (72 hookers if one dies doing the pastafarian jihad, a kind of frat war involving pasta)

• The holy sloth day is Friday, celebrated as the FSM's TGIF with kegs of cold beer.
The attire most respectful of our god is a pasta sieve (including on ID photos)


• Some Pastafarians believe the pirates of the 1600s and 1700s were the original pastafarians on earth, maybe or maybe not with special powers. The only thing which is a fact is that many ills on earth developed after the disparition of the pirates of the Carribean Sea, notably man made global warming, as proven by this graph:

Dressing and talking like a pirate are considered signs of devotion to the Church.

Like any Church, we must face doubters, and even haters. Here is what the Discovery Institute spokesman Robert Crowther said of us: "It's too bad that they'll get attention for this sort of drivel when we have a robust scientific research program that the media doesn't seem to want to write much about". The robust scientific research program of the Discovery Institute is about proving a man-like 'God' created the universe, world, creatures and pasta in 7 days. (a ridiculous claim compared to the much more reasonable proposition of a creation in one beer fuelled day).

I think I covered the main points. Do not hesitate to ask me question. You can PM me if you wish to join our Church.

May fresh basil leaves be on the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster always.
Noodly yours.

[edhopper]

1. Praise to his High Priest

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[Yorktown]

2. Heretic! Do not try to create schisms among our Church.

I'm sure Mr. Mario Batali is a great guy, a great cook, maybe even a pastafarian.

But no way this book would qualify as a holy book. Italian food is NOT just pasta based.

In this book of 327 recipes, there might be salads. Or bread based dishes like bruschetta.

How would that glorify our Supreme Spaghetti? It would introduce spiritual confusion.

Please. focus, dear edhopper: PASTA. In pasta we trust. E pluribus pasti Unum. RAmen.


PS: Here is a simple way to pray at home:

[edhopper]

3. Forgive me my trespasses

I in no way meant to say this is the holy book, that would be a sacrilege.
I was just posted it as a pic of his most holy high chef.

All hail the carbonara. May the maranara be with us.

[Yorktown]

4. ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis, brother hopper,..

in nomine Pasta, et Fusilli, et Spiritus Chianti.

[trotsky]

5. Ramen! n/t

[Yorktown]

6. Pasta be upon you, brother Trotsky.

"God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance." ― Neil deGrasse Tyson

[cleanhippie]

7. FSM has been decreed by the Almighty and Powerful Internet Forum Hosting God as farce.

You really cannot argue with that. When He speaks, we must listen. When He decides, we must accept.

There is no other choice.

[EvilAL]

8. LOL

[trotsky]

9. Well then, FSM is in good company.

Christianity was considered a farce when it got started, too.

[Yorktown]

10. That's Bronze Age religions privilege.

Where are my religion's equal rights?


Pasta and Jah, man.

[hrmjustin]

43. From the owner of the site

http://election.democraticunderground.com/12597940

http://election.democraticunderground.com/12597940#post1

[rug]

45. +1

Posting facetiously about actually believing in the Flying Spaghetti Monster could probably be taken as evidence that one in not interested in fostering greater understanding and tolerance.

It could also possibly be taken as evidence of trolling.

[hrmjustin]

46. Yes one can say that as well.

[phil89]

54. FSM makes as much

sense as the Jesus myth.

[hrmjustin]

55. Your opinion.

[Yorktown]

108. But you enforce whose opinion gets to discuss

Not to mention brush aside evidence Moses is a myth.

Who needs dialogue about faith?

Especially on a faith forum?

[hrmjustin]

109. And the owner told you it is my job to decide these things.

I think it best btw not to respond to his response to you.

[Yorktown]

110. How so?

Are you saying he shares your opinions on religion and free speech?

Or did you suggest to him anything I say is a provocation?

[hrmjustin]

111. The was the site works is groups have hosts that run the room and they decide what goes on in the

room.

He leaves it up to the hosts.

I am one of 5 hosts in interfaith and we will not allow fsm stuff in the room.

I am the only host of the prayer circle and i will not allow it in there.

I gave you the reasons.

[Yorktown]

113. I will answer the administrator because it's fun

Two remarks:

You seem extremely proud of your mod powers and to like to remind people about them.

You do not seem to be excessively interested in any kind of interfaith dialogue.
I gave you facts pertaining to your beliefs, i.e.
- the fact most saints you believe in have unsustainable saithood credentials
- the fact the literal Moses story is impossible and mostly mythical
You close this type of discussion by something like "it's what I believe in"

Why not from any participant?
From the mod in charge of facilitating debate on faith, it's more surprising.

[hrmjustin]

114. Imlook foward to reading your response.

[Yorktown]

116. As for the rest of my posts, I'll keep you informed.

I wouldn't want to appear taking your mod powers lightly.

[hrmjustin]

117. You can take it however you want.

you now know the FSM is not allowed in those two groups.

[Yorktown]

118. You already said that probably 10 times

[hrmjustin]

119. Maybe more.

[Yorktown]

120. No wonder you reached 58'000 posts

[hrmjustin]

122. Maybe but i am also on mirt and that gets your post count up as well.

i am alsials a forum host and host of the New York and Hillary Clinton room.

[Yorktown]

123. I hope you don't forget to tell them you're a mod

I mean, some people might forget.

[hrmjustin]

124. They are aware of it.

[Yorktown]

125. Thank goodness

I mean, hierarchy is so important.

[hrmjustin]

126. Not really.

These things are team efforts.

[Yorktown]

127. Why don't you tell me who you think the Bible's Moses was?

Theology would be more on topic. If you care to discuss it.

[hrmjustin]

128. it is something i take on faith.

I don't need proof.

[Yorktown]

129. But you know verifiable facts make the literal Moses story impossible.

So it's not a matter of not needing proof.

Do you accept the fact you are voluntarily disregarding evidence?

[hrmjustin]

130. When you get 100 percent proof it did not happen let me know.

[Yorktown]

131. No 100% proof of the inexistence of unicorns either

[hrmjustin]

132. And?

[Yorktown]

133. The literal Moses story is extremely improbable, based on facts.

2M people living in a country of 3M and leaving no trace is unlikely.
That people claiming names (Hebrews, Israel) not yet attested at the time is problematic.
A 2M people exodus over 40 years leaving no trace in a desert is unlikely.
A murderer living up to 120 years to lead them and get 10 dubious commandments is unlikely.

Add all these up, and the Bible Moses story is full of holes.

Do you accept you take on faith a story which is contradicted by evidence?

[hrmjustin]

134. Can you prove the FSM exists?

if not why do you believe?

[Yorktown]

135. The FSM is not contradicted by evidence, the Moses story is.

The FSM enjoys a higher probability of having existed than the Bible's Moses.


The Moses story can be proven wrong,

but you cannot prove the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster did not create the Big Bang.

[hrmjustin]

136. Do you take the FSM on faith? If not prove he exists.

[Yorktown]

137. Faith is acceptable as long as there is no contrary evidence.

I can justify a belief in the Holy Spaghetti Monster. No way to prove it wrong.

You refuse to face the fact the Moses story is proven wrong.

I am merely highlighting you 'accept' on faith something demonstrably false.

[hrmjustin]

138. Well thanks for pointing it out.

[Yorktown]

139. I am admirative

You oppose a solid wall of faith against evidence.

An interesting example of the power of 'belief'. Who cares about facts after all?

No wonder the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster is the martyr of your attitude.

Because you don't have faith in It.

[hrmjustin]

140. No i don't believe in the FSM.

[Yorktown]

141. Which is why you ban it from interfaith dialogue

While Moses -whose story can be disproven- can happily strut there.

Because the Bronze Age monotheisms all mention and respect this fictitious character.

I am sure you would appreciate the irony if you were not so invested in that story.

[hrmjustin]

142. I ban it because it is a joke on religion as skinner said today.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/12597940#post1

[Yorktown]

143. Don't hide behind someone else

That administrator said he had delegated mod powers to you (as you remind people regularly)
and that he won't override you. Which is the sensible attitude when you delegate power.

You PMd him your disapproval of letting the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster enter the interfaith realm before that administrator had written an answer, further restraining his options.

So the posish is thus:
- Moses, whose story can be disproven, but in which you have faith: OK in interfaith
- FSM, whose narrative is unfalsifiable, but in which you do not have faith: not OK in interfaith

At the end of the day, what is OK in interfaith seems to depend on what you have faith in.

[hrmjustin]

144. I answered this and i am not going in circles.

[Yorktown]

145. Moses, Adam and Eve make a mockery of spirituality

Same for the wholesale OT slaughters of Canaanites or of jewish tribes by muhamad.

But the peaceful Flying Spaghetti Monster is nefarious and divisive.

OK then.

[hrmjustin]

146. May your faith give you comfort.

[Yorktown]

147. Does the fictitious Moses give you comfort?

Is it all about the comfort of faith?

And why do you find the unfalsifiable FSM more discomforting than a disproven Moses story?

[hrmjustin]

148. No he doesn't. Jesus gives me comfort.

[Yorktown]

149. I'll save Jesus for another day. Moses today.

You take Moses on faith. But 'his' story is debunked by facts.

Doesn't it bring you to question your faith?

[hrmjustin]

150. Sure. i question my faith all the time.

[Yorktown]

151. No, you don't, or you'd question Moses.

You keep accepting on faith a Moses whose story is debunked by facts.

You apparently don't ask hard questions about your faith.

Is it ultimately about the comfort faith brings?

[hrmjustin]

152. Don't tell me what i do and don't do.

You know nothing about me.

[Yorktown]

153. I know what you told me: that you take Moses on faith

And I can observe you do not answer when the glaring impossibilities of the story are listed.

[hrmjustin]

155. I think we are done for the night.

You have a pleasant evening.

[Yorktown]

156. Good night

[MADem]

154. That's how groups work. You're just going to have to enjoy your fun outside of the

Interfaith milieu. There's plenty of places to goof around with the FSM schtick without crapping on a quiet corner for serious conversations. There's a Humor group here if you aren't getting sufficient jollies in the Religion or Atheists groups.

You have no desire to "dialogue" about faith--your goal is disruption and that is quite obvious. For this reason, you are unlikely to be reinstated, no matter how much you roll on the floor, laughing--though, given the context, it looks more like crying.

[Yorktown]

49. I could not possibly be taken as evidence of such.

A troll would have plunged outright,

not displaying the suave urbanity I did by keeping everyone informed of my every move.

[rug]

59. It's pretty convincing evidence.

BTW, what's your IP?

[Yorktown]

104. Conspiracy theory much?

What has my IP got to do with anything?

[rug]

105. Never mind.

[hrmjustin]

11. Interesting.

[Yorktown]

12. Good. I suppose we can start interfaith dialogues then?

[hrmjustin]

13. What do you want to talk about?

[Yorktown]

14. How was the Universe created?

For starters.

[hrmjustin]

15. There was a big bang.

[Yorktown]

16. Good. How did life appear on earth?

And if we agree on the Big Bang and a primeval soup (with or without input of a meteorite),

why are the two Genesis stories so idiotic?

Why would anyone 'divinely inspired' write them? Or wasn't he inspired on that topic?


(PS: I submit to you that the Flying Spaghetti Theory is much more compatible with Science)

[hrmjustin]

17. Life evolved on earth.

Genesis is alagory imo.

[Yorktown]

18. What is the use of that allegory? Why two diverging ones? God inspired both?

And since both are wrong, why search meaning in a book full of demonstrable mistakes?

And gratuitous violence? And historical nonsense? Do you agree there was no Moses?

[hrmjustin]

19. Questions, questions so many questions.

I believe there was a Moses and these are stories of the faith.

Why there are two Genesis stories i do not know.

[Yorktown]

20. The Moses of the Bible is impossible

First, Jewish clerics place Moses circa 1400BCE. First mention of the name of Israel =1200BCE.
So, let's list the problems with Moses:

• No Jewish nation at the time
• Bible says 2M persons in exodus over 40 years: no trace
• No trace in Egypt of 2M 'Jewish' slaves at the time.

Better still, roughly at the purported time of 'Moses', Egypt was partly under the rule of semites.
(13th and 15th dynasties) These Hyknos semites are probably both partly the ancestors of the canaanites who later called themselves Hebrews and the basis for the Moses myth.

Meaningless genesis stories, invented Moses myth, violent injunction to kill and enslave,
when is the Old Testament a sound source of morality?

[hrmjustin]

21. Then don't believe it.

[Yorktown]

22. Why do you believe in it when I show you debunking proof?

Why do you believe in a story so full of holes?

[hrmjustin]

23. Because i said so.

[Yorktown]

24. So you bought a religion wholesale and won't rethink?

Look at the risk you're taking: do you know Pasta's wager?

• Believe in The Flying Spaghetti Monster (at no cost), and heaven will be eternal beer.

• Do not believe in him, and it's an eternity of stale Bud Light.

[hrmjustin]

25. Enjoy your night.

[Yorktown]

26. Cheerio

Do not have Moses nightmares: Moses and the bogeyman do not exist.

[hrmjustin]

27. Bye.

[phil89]

56. You have

an obligation under 1st Peter 3:15 to account for your beliefs. Do you even care the slightest if what you believe is true?

[hrmjustin]

57. Lol i don't have any obligation to tell anybody anything.

[rug]

28. But those websites he pastes from are so persuasive.

Do not disillusion him.

[hrmjustin]

29. lol.

Alas i am not convinced.

[Yorktown]

30. As persuasive as any 'established' religion

btw, do YOU think the Moses of the Bible existed?

[rug]

32. Yah, the internet websites are rock solid.

http://www.religionnews.com/2014/12/01/online-troll-therapist-atheist-evangelists-see-work-calling/

[Yorktown]

31. Oh, and the recap about Moses or the RCC saints are not copy/pastes from websites.

Just Google my texts, it won't match.

Just Yorktown™ ©texts.

[rug]

33. How 'bout you name just two.

First, Jewish clerics place Moses circa 1400BCE.

[Yorktown]

34. DOB's range 1600BCE-1400BCE; You will argue about the current dominant rabbinical date, I suppose?

Is there a textual snippet you won't jump in on?

The current rabbinical interpretation gives a later date.

Moses (c.1391 - c.1271 BCE)*
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/moses.html

But the Nevi'im itself gives an Exodus circa 1446 BCE

1 Kings 6:1 Solomon Builds the Temple
6 In the four hundred and eightieth[a] year after the Israelites came out of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, the second month, he began to build the temple of the Lord.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%206:1

The Talmud only gives Moses's birthday if you can tell the year of the creation of the world (universe?):

Moses was born on Adar 7 (Talmud Megillah 13b) in the year 2377 after the creation of the world.

According to earlier rabbis, that gave an older Moses:

Jose ben Halafta ( רבי יוסי בן חלפתא ) placed Moses DOB's much earlier, as mentioned by Ussher
Ussher (gave) 1571 BCE as (Moses) birth year.

[jonno99]

36. Facinating thread. They say that feelings of love & hate for the same person is not uncommon.

Maybe it is the same with belief & disbelief.

IOW - in this thread you've put an awful lot of effort into demonstrating your disbelief.

The "disbeliever" doth protest too much, methinks.

(IOW - I'm not sure I fully believe you... )

[Yorktown]

38. Disbelieving me makes you a heretic.

My Chuch of the Holy Spaghetti Monster is the only true one.

I am one of the holiest members of said Church.

Doubting me will probably mean eternal Hell for you: eternity of stale Albanian lager.

Think about it. You still can repent and amend your ways.

[jonno99]

39. An eleborate play - complete with props,

for the purpose of proving your (supposed) disbelief. Why the need to demonstrate your disbelief? Only you can answer that.

Like I said, fascinating...

[Yorktown]

40. Nah, joke aside, I really never believed.

As for the 'need' to demonstrate disbelief, I have at least 3 reasons I can think of:

1- religion and politics are two subjects with a wide impact, and religion is currently the most dangerous of those two (during the Cold War, it was politics). So, shootings like Garland or Charlie Hebdo make me react.
2- Other than shootings, religion is creating harm on a day to day basis: not teaching evolution and the Big Bang in schools strikes me as obscurantism in our times.
3- here, I'm interested to see the reasons people give when faced with proof their beliefs are misplaced.
Ex: In this thread, hrmjustin said he believes the two conflicting genesis stories must have some allegorical value (which is unclear), he believes Moses must have existed despite all the evidence he probably did not and stated he believes in most the RCC saints but refuses to check my assertion most RCC saints don't make sense.

But you would be wrong to call me an atheist. My belief in the Flying Spaghetti Monster is genuine

[jonno99]

53. Two thoughts:

1. A <> B
iow, Jihadists (of any persuasion) <> egalitarian-minded Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, or Muslims, etc.

2. I think you will find very few examples where Creationism is exclusively taught. IOW - there is no harm caused by exposing students to competing theories.

Ok, I'll respond to your 3rd:
3. "Curiosities" <> proof (or lack of proof).
iow - this side of the grave there is little to offer as "proof" of the Divine (or lack thereof - which of course is by Design ).

[AtheistCrusader]

80. Evolution speaks to the vast diversity of life, not the origin.

[hrmjustin]

82. Yes that is true.

[LTX]

106. For starters, what do you mean by "created"?

And as a follow up, please do tell. How was the Universe created (and why the capital "U"?) You seem to be in possession of some sort of certainty on the subject.

[Yorktown]

107. A linguistic allowance to religionists

When talking to theists, the occasional use of their linguo is understandable, I suppose?

As for my 'certainties' on the origins -if any- of the Universe, you are imagining them.

Hawkings thinks there is a finite total quantity of space time, but that it is borderless.
Friedman countered saying no equation conclusively demonstrated time isn't infinite.
Yet most models, including that of multiverses, tend toward a finite time.

The science isn't settled, why should my opinions be?

[LTX]

112. I see. So your question was, to put it bluntly, bullshit.

To be more precise, condescending bullshit. Just so we're clear.

[Yorktown]

115. No. I was phrasing my question the way religions put it.

If you want to say I was pointing to glaring deficiencies of the 'revealed' monotheistic religions,
I can confirm that.

If you want to say my formulation was suggesting reservations about 'creation', it is probable.

Now, to call a doubter 'condescending' is highly amusing.
For millenia, religions have stated they 'knew'.
Then came a time when doubters couldn't be forcibly silenced.
Then came a time when their numbers grew.
Calling them 'condescending' is as good a way as any to find new ways to silence them.

btw, calling my way of formulating things 'bullshit' isn't very nice.
Believers with their precious itchy fweelings would have hit the 'report' button, I suppose.

[LTX]

121. I'm in awe.

Your doubt is so new, and so edgy. It's difficult being out there on a bumper sticker, all by yourself.

[Gothmog]

35. The FSM was first proposed in Kansas to deal with the religious nut cases and then caught on

[Yorktown]

37. True, that's how the Truth of the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster was mentioned in modern times.

But that's not when that Universal Truth was first discovered.

The pirates of the Carribean knew all about the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster centuries ago.

May pasta be upon you, brother Gothmog. And Chianti.

[Yorktown]

42. Excellent questions which show your commitment to understand the one true faith.

Most Pastafarians hold that individual liberties is one of the greatest gifts of the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster (fresh peccorino be upon it) to mankind.

Therefore, the choice of beer is left to the individual tastes of believers.

Of course, a believer who would advocate Bud Light as a beer of choice would run the risk of being viewed as harboring a lukewarm faith. But, at the opposite end of the spectrum, believers advocating super high alcohol content beers (those at 40ºalc ABV) would be viewed as verging on pastafarian fundamentalism.

But any tasty, middle of the road fresh cold beer would be welcomed by the religious assembly.

Ales, Stouts, Lagers, Fruit beers, we welcome diversity.

[hrmjustin]

44. That didn't go as you planned.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/12597940#post1

[Yorktown]

47. You already posted a few times the outcome of your PM to the administrators.

Besides, you attribute to me a 'plan'?

Paranoid much?

[hrmjustin]

48. Are you going to respond to skinner?

[Yorktown]

50. Sure.

Got an e-mail to finish first, will answer ASAP.

[hrmjustin]

61. I find your need to insult me funny and sad.

Note to jury he started it.

[truebrit71]

62. "He started it"

Seriously....is this kindergarten?

[hrmjustin]

63. Seriously!

He insults me and i am to blame?

Upset?

[truebrit71]

64. You are apparently...

...

[hrmjustin]

65. I am the one in kindergarten according to you.

Go on and keep insulting me but it only makes you look bad.

[truebrit71]

66. Um...need to brush up on your comprehension skills pal...

No-one was insulting you, least of all me, I was making an observation.

If I were to insult you Justin there would be NO room for debate.

[hrmjustin]

67. oh?

[Warren Stupidity]

68. some people's schtick here is "are you calling me a ..."

I have no idea what that is about other than hoping for a jury result.

[hrmjustin]

69. You think personal attacks are ok?

[truebrit71]

70. Again with the comprehension issues...

....where did I say that Justin?

[hrmjustin]

71. Again reading Reading is fundamental.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=201090


Your use of the crazy face is an insult.

[truebrit71]

72. Still stuck with comprehension issues I see...

That is an emoticon, to convey a feeling or opinion, it is NOT an insult no matter how badly you want to to be Justin....

[hrmjustin]

74. Lol but you said i was apparently and then used the crazy picture.

It says specifically it is the crazy emoticon.

[Warren Stupidity]

73. reading is fundamental is an insult.

Why do you think your insults are ok?

[hrmjustin]

75. Alert then.

[Warren Stupidity]

76. why?

[hrmjustin]

77. You seemed concerned i was insulting someone.

[Warren Stupidity]

78. You are the one constantly probing to see if somebody here could possibly be insulting you.

[hrmjustin]

79. Because i was.

A jury agreed.

[muriel_volestrangler]

81. And a jury then said truebrit71 wasn't insulting you

On Wed May 27, 2015, 06:08 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

You are apparently...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=201090

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

They continue to make this personal. There is no need for this.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed May 27, 2015, 06:18 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Can't really pick out one juvenile response from all available, let it stand.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I can't believe that someone thinks being call 'upset' is 'making it personal' and worth an alert. This may have been the biggest waste of time I've ever spent on a jury.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This whole devolved down at the bottom. You guys just like to fight. Move on...
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Skinner already addressed this issue in the ATA forum.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Post is unduly personal -- and sad to say not the worst from this author in this thread.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Insulting, but no more so than lots of others.

[hrmjustin]

83. Yes but he did put the crazy emoticon in that post.

[muriel_volestrangler]

84. You think you were taking part in a sober, meaningful conversation?

You said "he started it", which is a cliche for a young child to say; and which at first you appeared to acknowledge with your laughing smiley. It was ridiculous for you to start behaving as if someone pointing that out was wrong, and it is crazy for you to think that pointing out your 180 degree turn in emotion is insulting.

[hrmjustin]

85. Was mr. blur at fault at all or was it all on me?

[muriel_volestrangler]

86. Do you realise mr blur and truebrit71 are 2 different posters?

You are entirely responsible for your 'he started it' joke, your laughing smiley, and then your sudden insistence that everyone takes your posts seriously. mr blur had nothing to do with that.

Did you alert on mr blur before or after you posted the laughing smiley?

[hrmjustin]

88. mr blur insulted me. A jury agreed.

My edits.

http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=201075


Itruebrit used the crazy emoticon to describe me. Sorry but i am not at fault here. Your friends are.

[muriel_volestrangler]

89. 'At fault' for what? Your sudden turn-around from laughing to feeling insulted?

truebrit71 isn't 'at fault' for anything. He didn't alert on himself. He's not responsible for your interpretation of the crazy emoticon as describing you, rather than your silly post of 'upset?'. That was your misinterpretation.

[hrmjustin]

90. I was upset but i forgot to add that. Do you think mr. blur was right?

[muriel_volestrangler]

91. Whether you have a sense of humour or not can be judged by your posts in this thread

though that only became clear after you got his post hidden.

[hrmjustin]

92. It is clear you want to blame me for the faults of others.

You take care of yourself and get the last word and all if you need but as far as i am concerned they are t fault.


Good evening!

[Act_of_Reparation]

93. Well, that was unexpected.

[truebrit71]

94. You alerted on that?

On a fucking emoticon?

Holy shit dude, that is so

[hrmjustin]

95. i let my crazyiness get the better of me apparently.

I think that was the first time i ever alerted on you.

[truebrit71]

96. Uh huh...I'm sure it is...

[hrmjustin]

97. No those hides that you were talking to me were never from me.

[truebrit71]

98. Uh huh...

I'm sure of that too...

[hrmjustin]

99. Believe what you want.

Does not bother me if you don't believe me.

Take care.

[truebrit71]

100. But wait....you started it....

[underpants]

51. R'Amen!

[F4lconF16]

58. Well said. nt

[Arugula Latte]

101. I'm a believer, but I admit there are a few holes in the faith...

because of the Hole-y Colander.

Ramen.

[Panich52]

157. New? Maybe for you, but Pastafarians have been around quite a long time.

One source says it was started in 2005, but I swear I heard of it long before that.

May the strainer be with you.

[Yorktown]

158. 'New' compared to the Bronze Age supertitions (religions)

Anyway, we pastafarians consider the pirates of the Carribean to have been the first believers.

So Pastafarianism is 'relatively' new: a few hundred years vs two millenia+.

May Pasta be upon you.

[hrmjustin]

159. read your response in ATA and you post in AA.

Interesting but...

[LostOne4Ever]

160. 10 signatures have been collected and a request in ATA has been logged :) (nt)