Religion
Related: About this forumMurdering in the name of god.
NAIROBI, Kenya Gunmen from Somalias Islamist insurgent group, the Shabab, attacked a bus in northeastern Kenya on Saturday and killed 28 people after singling out those aboard the vehicle who were not Muslims, the Kenyan police said.
The Shabab claimed responsibility for the attack through the groups radio station in Somalia, saying it was in retaliation for recent raids by Kenyan forces on four mosques in Mombasa.
Nineteen men and nine women were killed after being removed from the bus, said the inspector general of the Kenyan police, David Kimaiyo.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/23/world/africa/shabab-gunmen-attack-bus-in-kenya-and-kill-28.html?_r=0
(Reuters) - Islamic State militants have killed at least 25 members of a Sunni Muslim tribe in a village on the eastern edge of the provincial capital Ramadi, local officials said on Saturday, in apparent revenge for tribal opposition to the radical Islamists.
They said the bodies of the men from the Albu Fahd tribe were discovered by the Iraqi army when it launched a counter-offensive on Saturday against Islamic State near Ramadi, the capital of Anbar province.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/11/22/us-mideast-crisis-ramadi-idUSKCN0J609O20141122?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews
Luckily these murders were conducted by people with sincerely held religious beliefs, not by delusional psychotic mass murderers. Anyone who claims otherwise is a big meenie.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Please don't devalue the lost lives as a set up for a snarky comment in a long running round robin here on DU. You've got to be bigger than that.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Up and down this forum the religionistas are JUST OUTRAGED that anyone could conflate their favorite fairy tales with delusions. Well in the real world religious nut jobs are murdering people by the score EVERY GODDAMN DAY. Treating religious nonsense as anything other than the nonsense it is - giving it a privileged status - is part of the problem.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Demeaned them, imo, as a set up for your closing snarky comment. "Cheap shot" was how you went about it.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)and religion so I've "demeaned the victims" of religious violence. Yes. I see your point. Exactly. It sure must be swell to have such a privileged set of beliefs.
pinto
(106,886 posts)I'm embarrassed at the manipulation of the killings, brutal murders, to set up another run of the puerile bone of contention you have with other DU members.
Not insulting to me at all. Just embarrassing all around, imo. For you, me, your targets and DU. I'm tired of it all.
Silent3
(15,477 posts)...and they decry how terrible it is that anyone would "play politics" with the lost lives of the massacred.
Conveniently, by definition, it will always be a "cheap shot" to point out atrocities committed in the name of religion.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Thought I could dance around that a bit. In any event, I made my comments to the OP directly. Don't want to drag this out anymore.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)bringing up the daily evidence of religion inspired psychotic brutality is somehow out of bounds and a cheap shot in the ongoing discussion here regarding religion and delusion. We are surrounded, inundated with religious violence, but the mere suggestion that religious beliefs are delusions is terribly insulting and has to stop. What has to stop is our pretending that religious beliefs aren't in fact delusions. What has to stop is our insane pandering to people who profess belief in fairy tales and use those professed beliefs to justify absolute nonsense, frequently horrifying absolute nonsense. The Islamic psychotics in Anbar are just an extreme example. Closer to home we aren't chopping off the heads of infidels, we are instead justifying homophobia, putting Moses up as a "founding father" in public school textbooks, claiming that there can't be any problem with climate change because some fictional deity gave us this planet to use so nothing ever bad can happen, and yes every now and then killing people for God, just like Boko Haran does, and celebrating it on Fox and Hate Radio.
Faux pas
(14,729 posts)I've never understood murdering for god or killing for jesus.
pinto
(106,886 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)There is nothing more foolish than dying for and/or killing for a religion.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)many of which were and are just as brutal.
Religion is pretty much irrelevant in my opinion. People will find an excuse to do what they want to do, whether it's from the words of Mao or Marx or from some holy book.
However, I do think that some religious people might be more impressionable due to the more authoritarian nature of some interpretations, the lack of respect for science and logic in same, and the hypnotic nature of repeating prayers, chants and mantras.
rug
(82,333 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Not a headline and an article dropped without comment, like a bad smell in the elevator.
Leontius
(2,270 posts)what better justification can you call for when you violate the right of fellow humans to live a life in peace. Really does liberty, equality, fraternity have quite the same ring as god wills it. Does volk and fatherland have the same power and call.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)They managed to work both into that goose stepping clusterfuck.
stone space
(6,498 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 23, 2014, 09:31 AM - Edit history (1)
If so, that would be the real outrage, wouldn't it?
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)stone space
(6,498 posts)And your hateful feelings towards those surviving victims who did is noted.
At least we know your attitude towards the victims of these horrendous acts.
They are the least of your concerns here.
LTX
(1,020 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Volleyball poisons everything.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)rug
(82,333 posts)Abubakar Gamandi, the head of the fish sellers' association, said the militants had used no guns.
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On Wednesday, Boko Haram gunmen attacked the village of Azaya Kura, also in Borno state, killing at least 45 people.
In this attack too, victims' hands were tied behind their backs and their throats were slit. The attack was apparently aimed at punishing the community after four insurgents were pointed out to soldiers and were shot dead.
Obseesion (in the colloquial sense).
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