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joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:33 AM Aug 2015

Law professors give opinions on Framegate

Robert Blecker is convinced Patriots quarterback Tom Brady did not illegally tamper with the footballs in the AFC Championship Game, and that the NFL's investigation into the matter is filled with false accusations and exaggerations designed to make Brady look guilty. The photograph on page 175 of the Wells Report only confirms his suspicions.

Blecker, a professor of criminal law at New York Law School, had to look at the picture several times before realizing something looked fishy. The picture was included as part of a study by Exponent, a company hired by attorney Ted Wells to conduct experiments aimed at determining if footballs used in similar conditions would deflate as much as the Patriots' footballs did in the conference title game.

It showed the needles on the gauges used by officials at the game to measure the footballs. One needle measured 1.4 inches and the other .9 inches. But wait a minute. The shorter needle didn't actually measure .9 inches. It was more like .7. Why? Because in the photograph of the shorter needle, the ruler was placed at 0 at the bottom of the needle's base. In the photo of the longer needle, the ruler was placed at 0 at the top of the base.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/bob-glauber/law-professors-give-opinions-on-tom-brady-s-appeal-1.10765060

This just adds to the mountain of evidence out there now that provse the balls were not even deflated, much less Brady knew about it, but since you're jealous and your team sucks, I assume this will make you haters even louder...haters do that when faced with evidence proving they're wrong.

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Law professors give opinions on Framegate (Original Post) joeybee12 Aug 2015 OP
Joey trumad Aug 2015 #1
Joey asiliveandbreathe Aug 2015 #2
I should have posted that about the best uniforms... joeybee12 Aug 2015 #6
Let's apply the Bonds/ARod Test Yavin4 Aug 2015 #3
Banned for life for an equipment violation? A violation the NFL is only accusing Brady of being hughee99 Aug 2015 #4
Amen...the NFL has lied at every turn... joeybee12 Aug 2015 #5
And there it is folks... trumad Aug 2015 #7
Lester Munson begs to differ RockaFowler Aug 2015 #8
 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
1. Joey
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:06 AM
Aug 2015

Your comments on this matter mean nothing. Your temper tantrum ignore-fest disqualifies you completely from this subject because anyone with the opinion that differs with yours gets put on your ignore list.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
2. Joey
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:09 AM
Aug 2015

You are 100% correct..

From above..This just adds to the mountain of evidence out there now that proves the balls were not even deflated, much less Brady knew about it, but since you're jealous and your team sucks, I assume this will make you haters even louder...haters do that when faced with evidence proving they're wrong.

I will say, as a life long New Englander, and an all around New England sports fan - Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox and Patriots - yes, they do have the best uniforms...THEY ARE THAT GOOD!

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
6. I should have posted that about the best uniforms...
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:11 PM
Aug 2015

A very well-deserved award...all the Boston teams look good.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
3. Let's apply the Bonds/ARod Test
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:43 AM
Aug 2015

Given the same set of facts but substitute Barry Bonds or ARod for Brady, and you would call for them to be banned for life from the game.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
4. Banned for life for an equipment violation? A violation the NFL is only accusing Brady of being
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:18 PM
Aug 2015

"generally aware of", not of actually causing. And you're talking about a lifetime ban?

Things like this cause people to not take any of your posts on the subject seriously.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
5. Amen...the NFL has lied at every turn...
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:10 PM
Aug 2015

The inflation/deflation of the balls...the texts (The Deflator was a text sent in May of last year, when the two guys, who only work for the Pats on home Sundays during the year)...the phone...the transcript proves Gooddell a liar again because he said Brady destroyed evidence, in the transcript Wells admits Brady asked if they needed his phone, Wells said no, Brady destroyed, as he does with all of them...the haters are wrong and they're digging in deeper.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
7. And there it is folks...
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:59 PM
Aug 2015

Joey has put on ignore everyone who disagrees with him about this issue.

So ...the only responses he sees are responses that agree with what he posts about this issue.

Why don't you folks agreeing with him ask him to un-ignore those who disagree with him ...be a man..and debate the issue?

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
8. Lester Munson begs to differ
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:00 AM
Aug 2015

Of course Joey won't read this:

Munson: NFL will win Brady case
Lester Munson believes the NFL is on solid ground with its case against Tom Brady and warns Patriots fans should not get excited about all the reports that the judge in the case poked a lot of holes in the league’s reliance on attorney Ted Wells’ report. Settlement is the goal
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/13479971/fooled-judge-deflategate-case-nfl-win-end-new-england-patriots-tom-brady

The Brady legal team also claims that Brady had no "notice" that deflating game balls or that lying about it would be subject to punishment. The now-famous provisions of Article 46 of the collective bargaining agreement give the commissioner authority to impose discipline for any conduct that is "detrimental to the integrity of, or public confidence in, the game of professional football." It is difficult, if not impossible, to think that Brady could not have known that deflating game balls below the minimum required pressure did not affect the integrity of the competition. His awkward and unsuccessful attempt to cover up what happened show that he had "notice" that there would be a problem.

Earlier in the litigation, Brady's union attorneys filed more than 4,000 pages of exhibits, documents and transcripts in an effort to show some strength in their position. This kind of document dump is never a sign of strength. It is an admission that there is nothing conclusive or dispositive in their material, no smoking gun that supports their position.

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